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we were ALL different people "back then" - years ago

Maybe so...but most people NEVER have needed to have a turnstile on our zippers. If this show were real life, these women would be STD machines. Unfortunately...as is the habit of Hollywood...promiscuity is glorified and consequences are rarely seen. For all the Christian mb'ers that identify with these harlots, I think it might be time to reconsider your path.

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I make it a matter of principle to not watch shows with even titles so blatantly wrong. Never seen a single episode of this, and never want to. It is surprising to me that anyone who has suffered the pain of infidelity would watch this, or Desperate Housewives, or any of the other wildly popular "adultery fests". I just don't get it.

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Originally Posted by keepitreal
I make it a matter of principle to not watch shows with even titles so blatantly wrong. Never seen a single episode of this, and never want to. It is surprising to me that anyone who has suffered the pain of infidelity would watch this, or Desperate Housewives, or any of the other wildly popular "adultery fests". I just don't get it.

Totally AGREE!!!

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Originally Posted by keepitreal
I make it a matter of principle to not watch shows with even titles so blatantly wrong. Never seen a single episode of this, and never want to. It is surprising to me that anyone who has suffered the pain of infidelity would watch this, or Desperate Housewives, or any of the other wildly popular "adultery fests". I just don't get it.

I agree wholeheartedly.

And for those who 'shared' this type of 'entertainment' with their spouses, did ya ever wonder where they got their ideas about cheating on you?

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Originally Posted by keepitreal
I make it a matter of principle to not watch shows with even titles so blatantly wrong. Never seen a single episode of this, and never want to. It is surprising to me that anyone who has suffered the pain of infidelity would watch this, or Desperate Housewives, or any of the other wildly popular "adultery fests". I just don't get it.

I concur. I think these shows will now be off limits in my house.


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oh come on Guys.....its a movie....besides we all know LOTS OF PEOPLE here LOVED "Unfaithful"....especially Diane Lane's part.....

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Not because we admired her, but because it accurately portrayed the addicted, sick mind of a wayward and the devastation of an affair. We liked it because it was REALISTIC, not because it glorified adultery. Ask folks here if they "love" Bridges of Madison County... sick

I get that....really I do...(I LOVED LOVED LOVED the scene where she is in the coffee house with 2 friends and the one admits to having an affair and talks about where if she could change this she would......made we WONDER how WS and BOW could watch that scene and finish out their "weekend" together.... sick)....

But with that saying, this is how I felt with Carrie. She and Big did talk about what they were doing and how awful she felt about it, BUT the fact that they kept it up, well, that just showed me the whole "affair addiction" stuff.....

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ps.....NOW if you saw the movie, there was a preview for a NEW movie starring Diane Lane that also is about Adultery (of course they don't call it that....but it still is happening..) and how "wonderful" these two soulmates are together but alas, can never truly be together..... sick

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My thing is...GIRLS JUST WANNA HAVE FUN....what can it HURT looking at a TV SHOW..while your H is out screwing his HO...some escape..some fantasy...not living it out...

AND MY CHOICE OF A TV SHOW DID NOT CAUSE HIM TO HAVE AN AFFAIR...

Ridiculous and mean to say to a FBS..IMO...

But carryon...

I'm THANKFUL that I had a few hours of happiness and enjoyment out of all of those horrific and sad days...

Since D-DAY, I can hardly look at TV at all...

I've almost completely stopped watching TV...PERIOD...

Such a LIFE-CHANGING, HORRIFIC LIFE TRAUMA for ALL OF US HERE..including ME...I'll never be the same...!!!

And I'll tell you what..I'm far from PERFECT..that's one of the things I like about the Carrie character...She would ADMIT to that..She would ADMIT to how SUPERFICIAL it may seem to others that she LOVED her SHOES and BAGS...It's ME..what can I say..I'VE LEARNED TO LOVE MYSELF FOR WHO I AM..So thankful..so thankful FOR THAT...I don't care anymore if EVERYONE DOESN'T LIKE ME...

In fact, I ALMOST didn't post this..

So a part of me must still care...YUCK...


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I don't care anymore if EVERYONE DOESN'T LIKE ME...


AWWWW......Mimi, I LOVE YA HONEY..... grin grin ....

not2fun

ps....I TOTALLY agree with the "My choice of TV shows" comment....sheesh...A BS telling another BS that what they "watched" cause their WS to have an AFFAIR....now we need the rolley-eyes.....

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Before adultery happened to ME , I had a somewhat vague attitude to adultery. Informed in part by the fact that my near family had no divorces or known affairs amid them, and in part because of how the media treated it.

I believe that popular entertainment that glamorises adultery helps to predispose people to thinking that , well, affairs are called LOVE affairs for a reason.

Then when it hits we have a cold realisation that they should really be called "hate affairs" and that there really isn't anything glamorous about them.

I think stuff like S&TC is just the emotional version of pornography.

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Originally Posted by iam
And for those who 'shared' this type of 'entertainment' with their spouses, did ya ever wonder where they got their ideas about cheating on you?

Ah, yea, that's kinda why I'm/we're here right? But I'm not so naive that I think "he got that idea from TV" He's a grown man, he knows right from wrong, fact from fantasy, etc. It's a guilty pleasure - the TV shows that is - and if it were so influential then I guess I'd be wearing $500 shoes & H would be seducing the neighbors. We'd all be, right?

BTW, we (H&I) also LOVED Desperate Housewives! I still don't miss an episode. And I still manage to NOT cheat on my estranged husband, or stab my friends in the back, sleep my way to the top...



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Originally Posted by Bob_Pure
Before adultery happened to ME , I had a somewhat vague attitude to adultery. Informed in part by the fact that my near family had no divorces or known affairs amid them, and in part because of how the media treated it.

I believe that popular entertainment that glamorises adultery helps to predispose people to thinking that , well, affairs are called LOVE affairs for a reason.

Then when it hits we have a cold realisation that they should really be called "hate affairs" and that there really isn't anything glamorous about them.

I think stuff like S&TC is just the emotional version of pornography.

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Amen.

Frankly, I fail to see how people who were once betrayed could tolerate that type of "entertainment" (and I use the word loosely).


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The central point of Sex and the City IS NOT glamourization of ADULTERY. It's much, much more about TRUE FRIENDSHIP between WOMEN. Speak the TRUTH. Don't make ASSUMPTIONS about stuff that you don't really know about...I would ASSUME that DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES actually DOES glamourize adultery. But, I wouldn't REALLY KNOW. I've never watched the show. You can't TOTALLY ESCAPE ADULTERY in this world unless you stay inside your house. I just saw a couple rendezvousing yesterday IN REAL LIFE!! I guess I shouldn't have taken that shortcut to WALMART. I'm not going to live my life in a CLOISTER and that does not mean that I am NOT A CHRISTIAN. A CHRISTIAN has accepted CHRIST as their PERSONAL SAVIOR.


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Are you suggesting I am lying Mimi ?


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I think stuff like S&TC is just the emotional version of pornography.

I can't believe you said this...



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No, Bob. You are not lying. You are giving your OPINION unless you watched the 8 year long series you can't REALLY know the essence of what it is about. It's like reading the middle chapter of a novel. But, you are entitled to your OPINION and to be who you are. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me. That's fine.


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I agree with Mimi and Not. This movie did not "influence" me in anyway to cheat on my husband. In fact, NO movie could influence me to do anything. Pleeezzee, I happen to be a grown, mature woman AND a Christian.

I'm also in a recovered marriage. Watching this movie only enforced that even more. A couple of years ago, I wouldn't have been able to handle the infidelity drama of the movie. Now, it just made me feel sad for Miranda that her husband betrayed her (even though I knew it was a movie!) because I COULD RELATE. I can't imagine a BS currently dealing with infidelity could watch it and be unaffected.

Trying to insult those of us who did watch it and LIKED IT just shows me who's just a tad bit paranoid about their own stuff. grin


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I understand how those of you (us? Still not clear, but BIGGER fish to fry now) who have exeperienced this firsthand are more sensitive. True, it is sad when Hollywood "glamourises" adultery & the like.

You know what though, that was hardly the center of the show(s) and as I fondly recall the years I was faithful to the show, and couldn't afford the shoes or dinners & didn't have the hot bosses, one thing is for sure: IF I were to experience these tragedies, I'd want REAL FRIENDS at my side like they had.

(Er, read: REAL FRIENDS - on TV) grin


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No amount of S&TC caused my WH to have his affairs, or any other TV or movie, for that matter . I'm pretty sure it was just a selfish choice. In fact, the place he prolly LEARNED this behavior was in his own home, watching his mother cheat on his father, and being the one to tell his father such. He had first hand knowledge of what an affair does to a marriage. Go figure.

Oh, BTW, my mother had an affair, too, but you don't see me choosin such. I AM a S&TC viewer. Go figure.


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Yeah, and c'mon, let's be real. Adultery was around LONG before the advent of video and television. So was murder.

If someone wants to make a movie and it depicts all of the devastation and horror for a spouse or SO character, then it should be done, no? It's reality.

Art imitates life.

Does Hollywood glamourize it? Of course! But they glamourize EVERYTHING! These days when an actor or actress takes a stand about something they believe in like say, global warming, the war, whatever...their popularity plummets and maybe they don't get as many offers.

So it's no wonder that some will take the easy way and make movies that glamourize any number of controversial issues.

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OK, just for the record, no I do not believe watching SITC or Desperate causes people to cheat. I do think that the steady diet of music, movies, tv shows, magazine articles, porn etc, desensitize society as a whole, making an environment where it is easier to cheat.

And I'm not so much at the moment trying to judge people who watch these for "fun"..
I'm asking WHY is it fun to you? I get emotional enjoyment from several kinds of movies. For instance I might enjoy a good clean romantic comedy for the laughs and the love story. I might enjoy a drama about a disabled child who overcomes all odds to become a football star, because it gives me inspiration. I might even enjoy a certain type of "shoot em up" if the bad guys get annhilated, because it gives me a certain sense of justice that at least in the movies, the good guys can win and the bad guys eventually get what's coming to them! Even a movie in which the adulterers meet a terrible end, or truly wake up to the error of their ways can be mentally satisfying.

I cannot understand what fun or mental satisfaction is gained (especially for a betrayed spouse) from seeing adultery or promiscuity. as a topic of fun and laughs. Sure these shows might show some negative fallout, but for the most part, it is deemed good or normal.

Let's take it a step further to demonstrate a point. Let's say there's a TV series or movie, about a fun-loving ring of friends who are into child-porn and trolling for underage kids. In this movie, let's say there is an occaisonal story line that shows some of the pitfalls of this lifestyle, but for the most part, we hear kiddy porn jokes, and get to know the lovable characters who have so many good points, but just happen to have this "hobby" they share in common, which is the topic of at least 50% of their conversations. Each night when the show goes off, you are mostly left with the notion that "Bob and Bill and George and Harry" are cool dudes, with good points and bad points just like all of us.

OK, would ANY of us think that entertaining? Would anyone here say "That's not real, I just find it a relaxing escape to watch a great group of guys who happen to be child molestors."
NO, and especially any here who had been victims of molestation, would find the shows sickening, wouldn't they?

In fact, I think all of us would be so disgusted with the characters, that we could not finds any entertainment value whatsoever. In my personal opinion, we should also be disgusted with adultery, which tears apart far more children's lives every year than does child molestation.

I'm not trying to be harsh, but that makes sense to me, and I'm baffled as to how victims of adultery can lend their support to these things. I truly would be interested to hear WHY it is a relaxing escape to you.

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