Welcome to the
Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum

This is a community where people come in search of marriage related support, answers, or encouragement. Also, information about the Marriage Builders principles can be found in the books available for sale in the Marriage Builders® Bookstore.
If you would like to join our guidance forum, please read the Announcement Forum for instructions, rules, & guidelines.
The members of this community are peers and not professionals. Professional coaching is available by clicking on the link titled Coaching Center at the top of this page.
We trust that you will find the Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum to be a helpful resource for you. We look forward to your participation.
Once you have reviewed all the FAQ, tech support and announcement information, if you still have problems that are not addressed, please e-mail the administrators at mbrestored@gmail.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 6 of 14 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 13 14
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,499
N
Member
Offline
Member
N
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,499
Originally Posted by princessmeggy
Originally Posted by Pepperband
SUSHI ANYONE ?

Pep grin

I've always heard sushi at body temperature was best. grin


hmmmm....I am not a big fan of sushi, BUT my WS is.....hmmmmmm...maybe we should have some sushi tonight....


not2fun

ps.....and GODDESSES, how long has it been since YOU waxed?????

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,288
I
Member
Offline
Member
I
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,288
Originally Posted by Pepperband
Mr Pep had a small role in Scarface (1983 - before some of you were born !) ... he has not snorted cocaine or killed anyone with a chain saw or semi automatic rifle - not yet anyway.

nevertheless - I plan on holding him personally responsible for the murder rate in America (the entire world - why the heck not?)

laugh grin

I am soooooooooooooooo enjoying this thread

Pep

Best movie ever (besides The Godfather 1 and 2).

What was the role?


"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth"

Henry David Thoreau
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
P
Member
Offline
Member
P
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
Originally Posted by not2fun
how long has it been since YOU waxed?????

Bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
P
Member
Offline
Member
P
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 35,996
Originally Posted by introvert
What was the role?

no way Jose

Pep

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,316
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,316
Originally Posted by princessmeggy
Quote
why wouldn't we hate a movie about promiscuous adulteresses as well?

In the movie, not one of the four main characters was promiscuous NOR committed adultery.

Ah, but PM at least two of them were having sex outside of marriage...(Carrie & Samantha)...

And I stand firm that there was adultery because of the affair marriage...True, not technically Carrie committing adultery, but she was Big's accomplice...

Mrs. W


FWW ~ 47 ~ Me
FBH ~ 50 ~ MrWondering
DD ~ 17
Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,736
E
Member
Offline
Member
E
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,736
Originally Posted by mimi_here
Quote
YES, Big cheated on Natasha w/Carrie. She came home & ran out, Carrie ran after her wishing to apologize or something, and she fell down the stairs.

You see there, I don't think Carrie knew that Big was still married or something like that...

What difference does that make? She knew she wasn't married to him, so that should have been enough to know that having sex with him was wrong.

That's a lame excuse, not knowing he was married. Every affair partner knows they are not married to the other person.

No excuses, period!

Even if this is "just a movie" there are folks who walk away thinking this sort of behavior is OK.

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,305
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,305
I guess i should have been born in another era or something because i am of the old school of you "save yourself for marriage".

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,316
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,316
Originally Posted by Still_Crazy
I guess i should have been born in another era or something because i am of the old school of you "save yourself for marriage".

I respect this a TON SC...I very much wish that I had...Mr. W and I both feel like that now...

With all of my heart I hope that our dd8 chooses to wait until marriage...I think it is a very big deal...More than I have words to express actually...

It kills me that without my committing adultery that I might never have repented of that particular sin...that haunts me...Would I have seen without the adultery? I don't know...I'd like to think so, because it bothers me A LOT that adultery was the catalyst for my repentance of many things...that anything good (repentance) was born of adultery...kwim?

Mrs. W


FWW ~ 47 ~ Me
FBH ~ 50 ~ MrWondering
DD ~ 17
Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,305
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,305
Well technically i did not do it though. Me and my H lived together before we got married because my mother did not want me to date him and told me i had to move out so he told me to move in with him, but he has been my "only" one.

I don't know that it necessarily made him "happy", i think he just could not believe that in this day and age there were any virgins left on the planet LOL!!


Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,986
P
Member
OP Offline
Member
P
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,986
You're right there Mrs. W.


Widowed 11/10/12 after 35 years of marriage
*********************
“In a sense now, I am homeless. For the home, the place of refuge, solitude, love-where my husband lived-no longer exists.” Joyce Carolyn Oates, A Widow's Story
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,499
N
Member
Offline
Member
N
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,499
ok......well for me ever since I got here, I thought an AFFAIRAGE was a affair than turned into a M. Meaning, neither partners ended it. So, it maybe that my definition was wrong.

I also do not see the whole Hollywood glorifying affairs in this show. Carrie was VERY much troubled by what she was doing. Are we all really nieve enough to think that the OP'S in our sitch's were without a conscience???? If that were true, we would have to "shun" a lot of FWS on here. Heck, when I read from the men on here and them going off on the OM, I kind of sit back and think, because my WS is an OM..... Not every affair has the OP being single....(mine is that way....they were BOTH married....). I find it interesting in hindsight to see what Carrie went through as the BOW.

Also, it did not glorify Steve's affair either (though I thought the confrontation scene when he gave the ol' "I wasn't getting any" justification kind ironic....). I thought Cynthia Nixons portrayal of the BS very well played out....(she did amazing....for once I could totally relate to her...).

And in the end it doesn't matter, because these were sub-plots to the bigger picture, which as Mimi stated, was 4 women and their friendship. Which I LOVED. This too was the reason I always loved the show.....and still do.....


not2fun

ps...and for the record, I am not nor was not promiscious.....my WS is my ONE AND ONLY....

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,278
D
Member
Offline
Member
D
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,278
Quote
ok......well for me ever since I got here, I thought an AFFAIRAGE was a affair than turned into a M. Meaning, neither partners ended it. So, it maybe that my definition was wrong.

I thought that's what that meant. You mean it doesn't? I'm confused!!! crazy

Quote
And in the end it doesn't matter, because these were sub-plots to the bigger picture, which as Mimi stated, was 4 women and their friendship. Which I LOVED. This too was the reason I always loved the show.....and still do.....

ITA!! I'm not a chick flick type female but I loved the show, too!!


And Chris Noth...WOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I'm so used to him on L&O both before and after as Mikey, though....but hey! Big ol' strappin' Wisconsin boy makes good! AND he's easy on the eyes!!! WOOOOOOOOO WOOO WOOO!!!!

Charlotte

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 15,310
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 15,310
Quote
and for the record, I am not nor was not promiscious.....my WS is my ONE AND ONLY....

Same here..NO BRAG..JUST FACTS...LOL...


I made it happen..a joyful life..filled with peace, contentment, happiness and fabulocity.
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,862
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,862
Originally Posted by MrsWondering
It kills me that without my committing adultery that I might never have repented of that particular sin...that haunts me...Would I have seen without the adultery? I don't know...I'd like to think so, because it bothers me A LOT that adultery was the catalyst for my repentance of many things...that anything good (repentance) was born of adultery...kwim?

Mrs. W

Repentance comes to us from and through Jesus Christ.

It is a gift of God.

"Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?" Romans 2:4

"Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins." Acts 5:31

"When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." Acts 11:18

"In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;" 2 Tim. 2:25




















Last edited by Marshmallow; 06/18/08 01:47 PM.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,153
I
iam Offline
Member
Offline
Member
I
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,153
Originally Posted by keepitreal
OK, just for the record, no I do not believe watching SITC or Desperate causes people to cheat. I do think that the steady diet of music, movies, tv shows, magazine articles, porn etc, desensitize society as a whole, making an environment where it is easier to cheat.

Desensitize...That's exactly what I meant.

Sorta like the old frog in the water analogy.

Put a frog in water and slowly turn up the heat and he stays.

Drop him directly in the scalding water and he jumps.

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,499
N
Member
Offline
Member
N
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,499
Originally Posted by Dancing_Machine
Quote
ok......well for me ever since I got here, I thought an AFFAIRAGE was a affair than turned into a M. Meaning, neither partners ended it. So, it maybe that my definition was wrong.

I thought that's what that meant. You mean it doesn't? I'm confused!!! crazy

[


What I mean....is that there is an AFFAIR. Neither partners end it, whomever is married, gets divorced and aftwards they marry......I thought there was no end of the affair at all....hey, I did say I may be wrong...maybe I'm just confused... crazy


Chris Noth....yes, very easy on the eyes...though I was not a Big fan, personally, I ALWAYS loved Adian and Carrie together....

not2fun

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,316
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 6,316
Quote
ok......well for me ever since I got here, I thought an AFFAIRAGE was a affair than turned into a M. Meaning, neither partners ended it. So, it maybe that my definition was wrong.

Natasha and Big's divorce passes the "but for" test...But for Carrie and Big's affair the divorce would not have happened...Making it an "affair marriage", imo...Looking at it Biblically, Big would not have been released from his convenant since he was the WS...he would not have been "allowed" to remarry...Really anyone that he married he would have been committing adultery with...It just makes it sting MORE to me that he did end up marrying his affair partner...

As for glorifying adultery? Well, Samantha certainly had her fair share of sex with married men...So much so that Carrie was once prompted to say to her..."Maybe we should start tagging your married men and that way you could keep track of them." Quote found HERE... That sure seems to make adultery a "no big deal" issue as far as the show was concerned...

Add to that the fact that Charlotte once made out with the gardner because first husband Trey wasn't having sex with her...Upon learning that, her MIL PROUDLY said, something along the lines of "My, my Charlotte, you really are a McDougal!", and well you just have a show that treated adultery with the same seriousness that one would treat a scraped knee with, if that...Adultery was ACCEPTED...

For me, the show lost it's appeal once my eyes were opened...

Mrs. W

P.S. Thank you for that Marsh...Much appreciated! smile









FWW ~ 47 ~ Me
FBH ~ 50 ~ MrWondering
DD ~ 17
Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,278
D
Member
Offline
Member
D
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,278
Quote
OK, just for the record, no I do not believe watching SITC or Desperate causes people to cheat. I do think that the steady diet of music, movies, tv shows, magazine articles, porn etc, desensitize society as a whole, making an environment where it is easier to cheat.

Yeah. Society as a whole. Mob rules. It's pretty much that way with just about everything. Scary, too.

Remember when divorce was rare? I remember in 6th grade a girl's parents were getting divorced and everyone walked on eggs around her. The attitude was almost like she had been diagnosed with a fatal disease.

I've noticed that there are still a few people out there who react that way when they find out I am going through one right now. Like I'm a piece of eggshell china that's going to fall and break into a million pieces all of a sudden.


Charlotte

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 15,310
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 15,310
Shows you how oblivious and out to lunch I was..really in a FANTASY WORLD...YUCK

I didn't even think twice about those parts of the show...

Really as others have said, LOVED their interaction with each other..come to think about it, I LOVE that about most of my FAVORITE SHOWS...

That stuff was ALIEN to me..like SCIENCE FICTION..that was about OTHER PEOPLE..I had no plans of ADULTERY ever affecting MY LIFE...My H was A CHURCH DEACON for goodness sake...OH MY...

Maybe I shudda payed CLOSER ATTENTION...


I made it happen..a joyful life..filled with peace, contentment, happiness and fabulocity.
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,986
P
Member
OP Offline
Member
P
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,986
Quote
Yeah. Society as a whole. Mob rules. It's pretty much that way with just about everything. Scary, too.

Remember when divorce was rare? I remember in 6th grade a girl's parents were getting divorced and everyone walked on eggs around her. The attitude was almost like she had been diagnosed with a fatal disease.

I've noticed that there are still a few people out there who react that way when they find out I am going through one right now. Like I'm a piece of eggshell china that's going to fall and break into a million pieces all of a sudden.

Exactly. I'm from that generation too. And heaven forbid the girl who ended up pregnant before marriage. Now it seems like no big deal.

I agree that a steady diet of infidelity being flashed everytime we turn around (even in commercials now!) does desensitize society.

I guess the $64,000 question now is how do we get that horse back in the barn?


Widowed 11/10/12 after 35 years of marriage
*********************
“In a sense now, I am homeless. For the home, the place of refuge, solitude, love-where my husband lived-no longer exists.” Joyce Carolyn Oates, A Widow's Story
Page 6 of 14 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 13 14

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Search
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 173 guests, and 49 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
peppa, RP4280, Philip Pitre, ClarencePeterson, ColsDawg
71,872 Registered Users
Latest Posts
Spying on Wife's phone without getting caught?
by ClarencePeterson - 09/22/24 08:59 PM
Depression
by ClarencePeterson - 09/22/24 11:19 AM
Separated/Dating
by ClarencePeterson - 09/21/24 08:58 PM
Child activities
by ClarencePeterson - 09/21/24 08:56 PM
Loss of libido/Sexual Attraction
by ClarencePeterson - 09/21/24 06:10 AM
Involucrar o no a la familia por apoyo
by ClarencePeterson - 09/21/24 06:09 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics133,607
Posts2,323,424
Members71,872
Most Online3,185
Jan 27th, 2020
Building Marriages That Last A Lifetime
Copyright © 2024, Marriage Builders, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Site Navigation
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5