How's your thumb holding up?

That was ALOT of texting!

You did great BTW.

I had a feeling OM might still be going, after she made a point of telling you he wasn't.

You did great telling her you were planning on camping out at her place. The thought that you might be serious may be the final nail in his coming to see her.

Obviously she's lying about her roomate being afraid of you.

Did she mention the flowers that you sent?

No, she didn't...

I just actually texted her about them to see if she got them.

She said that Roommate put them in her room, and she just saw them now as she was going to bed.

I was just thinking too...

After ALL that I texted... all she had to say was "Where are you staying?"

I might be over thinking this (again), but come on.... after all that, you're concerned about where I'm staying???

I also don't believe that she talked with BF either...

She mentioned earlier this afternoon that she talked with BF and Aunt, and that they were both uncomfortable that I called them to talk about this...

Now, she told me this evening she had to talk to BF to "undo everything"...

I think she doesn't know that I can see her phone records still... The new truth will be out tomorrow afternoon on that account.

What COULD she say?

You were terrific! And she's trying her best to stay mad at you.

Ya know, it might not be that OM is still coming.

It might be that she might have to hide things from you in her apartment. Or maybe keep you from her roomate who just might spill stuff she doesn't want you to know about...

Why doesn't the roommate go on the camping trip? I'm sorry, I forgot, it probably didn't exist. Something doesn't smell right. I wouldn't tell your wife what flight you're coming in on. Either, MO is coming in or he's coming in on a later flight. Possibly to hide away in a hotel while your wife is dealing with you. Then when she has you set away in your hotel, she goes to see the other guy. If that was the case, then they have one big set on them. However, it could be as easy as her roommate won't lie for her, therefore, the best option is to keep you away.

Or, (and I hate to think of it) the OM may arrive a day early and will already be at the apartment. Maybe that's why she's defending that apartment with everything she's got, even threating the cops on you if you go there. I hope I'm wrong, and I'm pulling for you big time.

This is all only speculation, but I don't think OM is flying down there. I think he ditched her when he realized how much grief would be created for him by going down there. You exposed the secret and he decided a roll on the golf course with her was not in the offing.

It's possible that she does not want you in the apt. because she wants to maintain the drama of what a bad boy you are. She may want her roommate to keep thinking that you are horrible and that therefore, she is justified in living as though she were a single woman.

If you come into that apartment, all of a sudden, the scenario will be changed into reality: You are a man who wants to re-build his marriage and has simialr expectations of his wife.

That will not make her look great to her roommates.

But it is reality.

I agree, everything I said was in speculation. However, BH is still catching WW in a bunch of lies. I guess the point I'm trying to convey is never take anything at face value.

It is obvious that your wife is lying...

BUT, you have basically admitted to her that you are going to stalk her. And you did it in a way she can reproduce as evidence.

I sincerely think you have a problem and you will only make it worse by following through with these plans.

I recognize you are in the right here. I just think you are putting yourself in a tough position with your actions....and now your words.

Gotta agree with MEDC on this one.

I see nothing but legal trouble her for you BH.

If OM is on that plane you'll be dealing with feds and TSA.

If OM is at, or shows up at WW's place, I see domestic disturbance call for Tx police written all over that.

On the flip side, you have done everything possible to expose the A to the light of day as in plan A, but if AP's are determined, you cannot legally stop them. It is not illegal to have an A in this country, simply highly immoral(sad to say).

Why not change plans and go visit friends and family. Then go to completely dark plan B. You're WW does not want you there.

All Blessings,
Jerry

In order for her to maintain her scenario that you are a bad man, she could easily escalate by calling the police based on some statements that you make or physical movement that you make while you are at the apartment or are at the door of the apartment or are in the driveway of the apartment.

Be careful about all of this, what is your plan?

Just remembered something my sister did to the OW in her sitch.

Her OW lived out of state, and was flying out to see my sister's H. My sister found out what flight and time OW was taking and she called the airline and cancelled it.

I think she said she was only asked for her credit card number for verification. Since she didn't know which credit card her H had used to buy the ticket, she said," Oh, gee, I don't remember which one I put it on." The person on the other end asked her if the last 4 numbers on her CC were "XXXX" she said yes. And that was that.

LOL!!!

About the roomate...

It doesn't make sense to me that she would put the flowers you sent her in your WW's room if she thought you were a kook.

It would make more sense for her to leave it in the livingroom or else where and simply tell her,"Look, what came for you, from your crazy H. What do you want me to do w/ them?"

I don't think that OM is coming down. The reason she doesn't want you around is because she doesn't want you to find out by talking to her roommate that there was no camping trip, and she asked her roommate to give her some privacy this weekend. She just doesn't want to put her roommate in the position of having to lie for her or spill the truth.

There is too much drama going back and forth. This is how you need to handle it.

Her: Where are you staying?

You: Why I'm staying with you of course.

Her: No you're not. My roommate........blah, blah, blah.....

You: (Silence)

Her: Why haven't you answered me? You're not staying with me.

You: (Silence)

1 hour later

Her: So what are you doing this weekend?

You: Well, I thought we could go see, X, Y, and Z.

You see how that works? You need to steer the conversation away from arguments and towards good conversation. Don't respond to the arguments. Only respond to her when she calms down and acts like a rational person.

Is there any way for anyone else to go with you, friend or family? So you'll have witnesses on your side in case you end up in court? Your word against hers will probably go her way.

The more I think about this, the more I think it is all about keeping you and the roomate apart.

Totally agree Marsh.

She has set up roomie to be her ally in this new relationship.
Roomie was cool with new BF coming on camping trip.

Roomie has probably been told that you are in the process of divorce. Roomie has been told all kinds of lies about you.
So that roomie would support WW's new relationship.
WW can openly flaunt OM in front of roomie. But she can't bring you and roomie together, obviously -- or her lies would be exposed.

I'm 99.5% sure there was NEVER a camping trip.

My wife has never had any desire to go camping.

OM and WW had plans to go to a music festival on Saturday. OM was looking for golf courses in the area of her house to go golfing. Who knows what else they had planned... Probably lots of sex.

I agree, it doesn't make sense why Roommate can't still go on camping trip. It was her friends having the camping trip, and my wife suddenly was able to go when a spot opened up. Now that she's not going, Roommate can't go? Yeah, right!

WW's story will be this...

OM and friend planned to come down to visit to go golfing. She was going to visit friend before she went camping. Now, because I'm crazy, and I'm imposing on her this weekend, she can't go camping, and OM and his friend (the friend will be who he bought the second ticket to the music festival for - even though WW suggested the music festival to OM, and when OM bought the tickets, WW was very excited) aren't coming because they're scared out of their mind because her crazy husband sent him this e-mail telling him to stay away. WW doesn't feel safe with me down there, so she's asked Roommate to cancel her part of the camping trip too, to protect her from her crazy husband - who is self-admitidley crazy (as far as reverse babbling goes), and is planning on checking into the mental ward when he gets down there.

Roommate is scared of ME because every time I talked to WW, WW ended up yelling into the phone. I however, remained calm with every telephone conversation. But, I'm sure WW told Roommate that I was raising hell on the other end of the line, and that's why she was so upset.