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BH,

I think you're doing great and I like how you're standing up for yourself. I fully understand WHY you need to do this ... Good Luck this weekend.

However, I did recall something that I think I should at least mention so you are aware of the possibility. I seem to remember that you said your WW was in "law enforcement" in TX. If that is the case BEWARE of what she may conspire with some of her law enforcement buddies to do to you. I don't intend to offend anyone (Sorry, MEDC, Bankers don't have the best reputation either), but law enforcement officers are historically some of the worst at obeying the law themselves and overstepping/abusing their "AUTHORITY" to protect or cover for one of their own. They simply can't be trusted in this regard. It is very possible that she could use her connections to harrass you as soon as you arrive. I don't know that there's much you can do about it other than be aware of the possibility and try not to put yourself in a situation that can be twisted to look much worse than what it truly is.

Again, GOOD LUCK!!!

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Myrev..as with every profession, there are good apples and bad apples. But I HIGHLY doubt anyone will risk their career to help a skank have her affair. BH is doing enough on his own that would warrant an arrest for stalking should his wife pursue the issue. If she produced the information already available, I would personally lock him up. He has already broken some laws and has been told that others fear him as a result of his actions. If he continues, his actions would meet the legal definition of stalking and he could/should be arrested.

And this is coming from a person that is on his side.

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could you pocket a micro cassette recorder or something similar for conversations?

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I also think the camping trip was just a ruse.

Why is WW trying so hard to keep you out of the house?
Is the OM going to be there?
It may not be good news if OM is not on your flight. He could of left earlier to get there before you.

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But I HIGHLY doubt anyone will risk their career to help a skank have her affair.

My experience differs, but our points of reference are likely from two different perspectives. I believe that you were an officer in a large city (Philly???) and I live in a small rural area, with a very small police force, and a comparable situation is currently the talk of our town with officers losing their jobs for participating/covering in a similar disgusting scenario.

Also, I work in a mid-sized city that just settled an ongoing law suit, in favor of the city, over the termination of roughly 25% of their force due to officers trading "NOT" issuing a citation for sexual favors from young females, and this apparently was known and covered up by many other officers not involved ... so I have two recent (within the past 2-3 years) examples within 25 miles of my home.

Law enforcement officers WILL cover for their fellow officers, even if it puts themselves in jeopardy and BH shoud be aware of that fact.

As to whether he's committed any wrongdoing himself ... I just don't see it, and Mr.W seems to confirm that perspective, so that is not as big of a concern to me as the TX PD abusing their authority in dealing with BH, but as always, you are free to offer differing advice.

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It appears as though Texasd is a "one party" consent state so you could do this legally. It might actually protect you against false charges. I would suggest that you heed her advice regarding the loyalties of family/friends. You would most likely be on the losing side when it comes to these relationships.

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Mr.W seems to confirm that perspective

No, I do not think that is the case. Mr. W points out there is an unlikely prosecution. BH's behavior has clearly risen to meet the requirement for stalking (should he follow through on all that he has said). That is not really open for debate...it is a matter of simply comparing actions with applicable statutes.

Your blanket statement about police is obviously wrong.

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Law enforcement officers WILL cover for their fellow officers, even if it puts themselves in jeopardy and BH shoud be aware of that fact.


Is there a possibility. Yep. But you do not know that these officers would do that...as most would never entertain such a thing.

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Especially not a cop in Austin.


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She's in "law enforcement" but is not a cop...

She's on the court side of things, and has only been working for a couple weeks.

That's not to say that she doesn't have connections... But, I doubt she's going to ask for "help" in this matter given the fact that she just started the job.

It'd probably be a different scenario if she's been working there a few years and has made a few friends.

But, who knows... she could have all kinds of people on her side by now.

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Originally Posted by cinderella
could you pocket a micro cassette recorder or something similar for conversations?

He could. He could not use it in a court of law, though. Not here in Texas.

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Law enforcement officers WILL cover for their fellow officers, even if it puts themselves in jeopardy and BH shoud be aware of that fact.

Yeah, a.k.a.-"The Blue Wall of Silence."

Right?

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could you pocket a micro cassette recorder or something similar for conversations?

He could. He could not use it in a court of law, though. Not here in Texas.

Charlotte

It is perfectly legal in the state of Texas to record a conversation as long as ONE of the parties knows they are being recorded.

They can, however, be used in mediation here - to show intent.


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It would be easy enough for her to spin a story about her crazy stalking husband that she moved out of state to get away from. Women who have a plausible story about abusive/battering/stalking husbands can garner a lot of sympathy, and there are a lot of legal mechanisms in place to help them...whether they're telling the truth or not.

Please be very careful about what you put in text or email. Please think about reconsidering your trip. Can you just get a PI to observe her and OM for part of the weekend?


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Originally Posted by Dealan-de
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could you pocket a micro cassette recorder or something similar for conversations?

He could. He could not use it in a court of law, though. Not here in Texas.

Charlotte

It is perfectly legal in the state of Texas to record a conversation as long as ONE of the parties knows they are being recorded.

They can, however, be used in mediation here - to show intent.

Yeah, I have a friend who is a PI and I had to help him on a case. We went ALL OVER this.

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Can you just get a PI to observe her and OM for part of the weekend?

Yeah. I know an excellent PI who goes above and beyond the call of duty if you would like his info. I don't know what kind of caseload he is juggling right now, though.

And he knows Austin REALLY well thanks to my evil ex-SIL and her "activities."

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My guess, there is a camping trip, except WW never intended to go. The reason you can't meet the roommate or come to her house, is because it is going to be set up into a loveshack for the weekend...the roommate is planning to be gone and hte OM is going to stay there...it is quite possible the roommate does not know this...

Is it possible to expose to the roommate?

Can you start a conversation with, "my wife has told me you are afraid the realtionship my wife and I have is volatile and I wanted to clear the air a bit..." or other eloquent words.

Is it also possible to hire a PI for the weekend to stake out the house and take some pictures?

Or is it worth it?



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Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

Roomate is clueless of what WW had planned this weekend when she was away camping.

She's afraid you will expose what she's up to to her rommate.




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Verizon's text details came through from last night.

OM and WW are still texting each other.

She was texting OM while we had our exchange last night.

At this point, I think that OM and WW are still in cahoots for their weekend.

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