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Good post Marsh.
I also think when MelodyLane mentioned that most States, for example TEXAS where the courts look down on adultery when deciding custody and culpability, splashed some very cold water on Mrs. MogRod's fantasy of ever living happily ever after with the sleazy OM.
Yeap, its a relief to know more States are now taking adultery into consideration where the judges are playing HARD BALL with the cheating spouses, especialy when there are children involved. Special Needs children at that.
Mr. Wondering (a very successful attorney) wrote to MogRod in an earlier post on this thread. I hope MogRod goes back and reads it, it was some VERY sound legal advice.
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"wife person"????  What else would you call yourself if you were pretending to be someone who just happened be in Mo's WW's home, who happened to to find MB, and then find Mo's thread, and then change user names, and then post, while you pretended to be in the shower? 
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Mo, get this ****EDIT**** (sure to be edited) away from your son!!!!
Last edited by Berlin; 07/17/08 08:52 PM. Reason: Enough! TOS Violation
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Mr. Wondering (an attorney) wrote to MogRod in an earlier post on this thread. I hope MogRod goes back and reads it, it was some VERY sound legal advice. Good idea, Jo. Think I'll bump it back up for Mo. mog,
BTW...unless there is a custody agreement in place you BOTH have equal access to your child. SHE does not get to call the shots and BESTOW visitation upon you. Allowing such sets a terrible precedent. It's akin to conceding custody to your adulterous sick wife. Your child deserves better and you are the only remaining moral parent he's got.
I am attorney and I suggest you seek local representation to assist YOU with figuring out this mess and exploring your options. Until something is hammered out by your attorney (NOT YOU as you focus on marital recovery and not ligation)...you ALLOW nothing less than 50-50 custody.
If she won't "allow" this (as WW's are entitled dirtbags who think they get to call all the shots and think they can abuse you, take your kids and make you PAY for their continued misconduct)...THEN you MUST impose it.
The way you do this is...if she keeps your son 4 days and then "allows" you visitation, then YOU get 4 days. If she keeps the kid 8 days, then when she finally comes to her senses and allows you to see the child again...YOU get 8 days. Just don't give him back. She has NO RIGHT to keep him from you nor any LEGAL right to make you give him back (as long as you are FAIR hence the equal day approach). IF she denies you all visitation because she doesn't like you standing up for yourself and your rights to your child then you document THAT too and she'll end up LOSING complete custody of your child based upon the Parental Alienation laws. Typically, with a WW there is some initial hostility to such a plan...but once she meets with a lawyer, such lawyer will INSIST that she not make the mistake of denying you any custody or visitation.
Don't allow her to manipulate and gaslight you into accepting anything less than your RIGHTS allow. Stay calm and insist upon them.
Another upside. IF she ends her adulterous affair and you get a shot at recovery. Standing up for yourself garners her respect and will aide in recovery (because you won't appear the wimp that totally put up with her crap and ate it too). "Maning Up" as we like to call it pays dividends in recovery (marital as well as individual since YOU will respect yourself more looking back someday regardless of the outcome).
REGARDLESS, I still think you should be filing a restraining order against OM prohibiting him having any contact with your vulnerable child.
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Thanks for the clarification Marsh.
I had visions of a pod person or perhaps a sea monkey type creature that turned into a wife person after being placed in water.
johnstwin-
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Remarried my FXH 25 years to the day of our first M. God is so good-and sometimes so unexpected!
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Hey, would anyone have a way to see the OM's (mogrods other2) two posts now that he deleted them?
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whoaaaa.....
TIME-OUT HERE....
Did Mogrod's W POSOM post here posing as him??? Did I miss something????? WTH....am I reading this right????
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Hey, would anyone have a way to see the OM's (mogrods other2) two posts now that he deleted them? They were copied by others. First one. She hasn't denied anything at all. She's been coming clean about the whole situation to all of you - who seem to have formed some beautiful opinion about mogrod1...... Yep, surprise. Its me...... the "other MAN". Everyone grab the popcorn!!!!!! Second one... (I think there may have been another sentence to this one.) Mograd1 has since taken it a step further and made up this little fantasy life that I live in.... me being the sexual pervert - child rapist, without knowing everything about my life or who I was personally. Third one.. Holy S***, You all have it all wrong. I've never been arrested in my life!!! I have 2 beautiful Children of my own, and a soon-to-be-xwife of 12 years. Its the wife I can't stand to be with anymore. How on earth did you people get to think I was anything close to a sexual pervert? I said that mogrod1 has THOUGHT this of me because I went behind my wife's back and cheated on her, which goes against his marriage values!
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Mogrod.
I can get it for you.
Email me at the address below.
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Oh yeah, here's the rest of his second post.. Did I cheat on my wife years ago w/ mogrods_other, before she ever met mograd1 - Yes. Am I proud of it?, NO. But that's something I will live with.
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whoaaaa.....
TIME-OUT HERE....
Did Mogrod's W POSOM post here posing as him??? Did I miss something????? WTH....am I reading this right????
not2fun OM posted under the nic...Mogrods other2
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Aahh, thanks. Completely forgot others quoted him.
I figure there is a good reason why he deleted them, so there is good reason to keep them.
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Aahh, thanks. Completely forgot others quoted him.
I figure there is a good reason why he deleted them, so there is good reason to keep them. Good idea. But, I think there still may have been another part to that second post. So do e-mail Asterisk for them.
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If I were Mo, I'd go as far as to print them out and expose to OM's alleged STBX.
Widowed 11/10/12 after 35 years of marriage ********************* “In a sense now, I am homeless. For the home, the place of refuge, solitude, love-where my husband lived-no longer exists.” Joyce Carolyn Oates, A Widow's Story
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Here's one: Did I cheat on my wife years ago w/ mogrods_other, before she ever met mograd1 - Yes. Am I proud of it?, NO. But that's something I will live with. Did mograds_other come clean about the past w/ mograd1 when they met? Mograd1 has since taken it a step further and made up this little fantasy life that I live in.... me being the sexual pervert - child rapist, without knowing everything about my life or who I was personally. I have never spoken bad about mograd1, simply because I do not know him or anything about him. Because of this situation w/ mograds_other before they met, he seems to know everthing about me all these years. I will now wait for mograd1 to speak his mind!!!
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mogrod, since you're here, did you finish exposing to everyone? Who did you expose to? What else are you doing as far as plan a or b?
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If I were Mo, I'd go as far as to print them out and expose to OM's alleged STBX. Good idea! Another reason to get the complete copies from Asterisk. It's obvious he gave something away in them. Did you notice how Mo's WW posted to OM and said, "IF it's you."? So they both are nervous about what he revealed. Mo, please e-mail Asterisk, b/c I just sent him/her a message for you.
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That's the one I couldn't find, Jo.
That's all of it.
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Well, unfortunately, whatever am or am not planning I can't post on here because of prying eyes.
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MogRod,
Re-register and select a login name they'd never think would be you.
I know eventually they may find it, but at least you're making them work for it.
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