Sure I can. Like i said, killing is killing. It is one of the 10 Commandments. "You shall not murder." Which is what war IS isn't it?


I did not equate the AMERICAN SOLDIERS to abortionists. The troops of this country do as they are sworn to do. They follow the orders of the commander in chief. I commend them for their loyalty and honor them for doing so. I do equate the person or political party that put them in that position no different though. We invaded Iraq under false pretenses with an obvious politcal agenda pushing for it.

Want2Stay

Well, now, there it is...and so predictable! The right always uses the same jabs..."you don't support the war, so you don't support our soldiers." KILLING IS KILLING. What is IRRATIONAL, Mel, is that you are making a statement about AMERICAN SOLDIERS as if they have the RIGHT to choose who they kill- or where or when or why. They do not. Once the papers are signed, they are OWNED by the military. They no longer get to make decisions about such things. So, to equate a soldier who is under U.S. command and a person who decides to have an abortion is ridiculous. And I'm sure you realize that. The comparison is between the DECISION MAKERS of the war and the DECISION MAKERS who decide to have an abortion (or who support abortion).

What WE are saying, is that it is HYPOCRITICAL to support one and vehemently oppose the other. Any time a decision is made to send troops into a sovereign country which DID NOT ATTACK US and kill tens of thousands of innocent people...IT IS SLAUGHTER. What difference does it make if it is an "innocent" unborn baby or an "innocent" 2 year-old, or 5-year-old or 20 or 40-year old person? It is still KILLING. An unborn baby shouldn't have more rights than a person who has been born.

And before I leave this topic, I have to point out to those of you who base their political support on this ONE issue- HOW MANY presidents who have been Republican since R Vs W made a CHANGE to the decision? They have had plenty of opportunity to appoint enough anti-abortion justices to overturn the decision. Not only have they failed to do so, the current president couldn't even find a competent justice (or one who hadn't committed crimes-lol) to appoint. Very sad. And still the slaughter continues...

It is also interesting that the ACTIVE troops not only support Obama, they have donated more to his campaign than anyone in history. Very interesting indeed!

Have you ever READ THE BIBLE? Did you miss all those little God sanctioned WARS in the OT? Using your standard, even GOD is a mass murderer. Do you also think that Harry S Truman was a murderer for dropping the A-bomb? How do you expect to be taken seriously when you cannot discern killing from murder?


NO! Our soldiers cannot carry out IMMORAL ORDERS or they will be held responsible. They are not EXONERATED any more than German WW11 GENERALS were exonerated just because HITLER told them to slaughter JEWS. THEY WERE HUNG. They were BUTCHERS and if war is MURDER then EVERY AMERICAN SOLIDER WHO HAS EVER KILLED IN WAR IS A MURDERER. You cannot have it both ways.

You know what, Want, its one thing to disagree over the reasons that led us into war, but its quite another to accuse our elected officials and our fine American soldiers of being MURDERERS WHO ARE the moral equivalence of abortion butchers who senselessly slaughter millions of unborn. That is retarded and makes it impossible to have a civil discussion. I find it very offensive.

This is what the soldiers speak about as being so difficult...killing the CHILDREN..and other "innocent" people...NECESSARY, and ORDERED, however, to protect THEMSELVES...

Nice, Mel. It IS obviously impossible to have a civil discussion with someone who would rather sling mud and resort to name-calling simply because we disagree. Some would say that making distintion between murder and killing is the epitome of ignorance.

Nonsense. If a soldier carries out an IMMORAL ORDER, he is held responsible. So, if you are going to call our elected officials MURDERERS and BUTCHERS, the logical conclusion of that premise is that our AMERICAN SOLDIERS are MURDERERS for carrying out those immoral orders.

By that standard, even GOD is the moral equivalent of an ABORTION BUTCHER, because he commanded WAR in the OT. What a ridiculous notion.

Be assured, it is WANT who is equating AMERICAN SOLDIERS to abortion BUTCHERS, not me. To call WAR an act of MURDER is ludicrous and indicts millions of brave Americans who fought in our wars. ugh!