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Obama's got nothin.

Without his teleprompter, he's just a mindless stuttering Porky Pig.

He is the Great and Powerful OZ™, and the man behind the curtain is the terrorist hate groups that he represents and the left has swilled down the kool-aid.

Obama is the number two receiver of graft from the criminals running Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, yet the leftist barking moonbats are so obtuse they purposely IGNORE that fact.


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I guess I am not understanding how it is "sliming" to state a true fact about OBAMA? crazy

Why would it be a problem to state that Obama befriends America haters but is not a problem to befriend America haters? Isn't that a little backwards? crazy

How is it "mudslinging" to say "Bill Ayers is Obama's associate?" How is it "sliming" to point out that Bill Ayers is a radical domestic terrorist who HATES AMERICA and stated that America deserved to be bombed on 9-11? A man who has never expressed remorse for his terrorist activities? Is that NOT TRUE? If it is TRUE, then why would it be "sliming?" crazy

would it be "mudslingling" to state that John Mccain's business associate is joe blow? If so, then wouldn't the very accusation mean that there is something WRONG with that association?

Why would it be mudslinging to state that Obamas preacher is an America HATING sicko who cozies up to other America hating monsters like Castro and Hugo Chavez?

Don't we need to know that Obama has no problem sitting in church hearing "GOD D*AMN AMERICA!!" and no problem associating with America HATERS and domestic terrorists?

That is a REFLECTION on his character, and character is the #1 "ISSUE."

The other "issues" will change from day to day, so we need to know if he has the CHARACTER to lead.

My question would be how does a person sit in church for 20 years listening to hate America bigotry and associate with other america haters if they don't feel the same way? If my preacher started sliming AMERICA and cozied up with totalitarian slave masters in communist slave states, I might have a problem.

But this is the kind of stuff we need to know in order to determine Obamas fitness to lead.


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Obama is promising to raise taxes on the "rich" anyone who makes more than $25,000 a year. Just are the left so desperate for socialist overlords that they are willing to give up half their salaries so women can kill babies for free?

He's is pandering to the freeloaders in the usual liberal handout mantra.

Why has the left ignored the HUGE sums he was paid from the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac criminals.



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Originally Posted by Lexxxy
There are lots of reports out now that Obama is not eligible to run for president.

Yeah, and lots of reports that he's a Muslim, or a terrorist, or a communist.. LMAO..

McCain camp is well versed in Rove's mantra of "desperate times call for desperate measures", all these smokescreens highlight just how desperate things must have become for John...

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There are lots of reports out now that Obama is not eligible to run for president.

Yeah, and lots of reports that he's a Muslim, or a terrorist, or a communist.. LMAO..

McCain camp is well versed in Rove's mantra of "desperate times call for desperate measures", all these smokescreens highlight just how desperate things must have become for John...

AGG

And tonight's debate didn't help. Both CBS and CNN polls showed that voters considered Obama the winner. CNN showed 54 percent saying Obama won and 30 percent thinking McCain won. At the CBS website "Forty percent of the 516 uncommitted voters surveyed identified Barack Obama as tonight's winner; 26 percent said John McCain won, while 34 percent saw the debate as a draw."

I heard several commenters afterward say that it probably won't help McCain to talk about Wright and Ayers because 60% of voters polled see the economy as the biggest concern and they will see this other stuff as irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
character is the #1 "ISSUE."

First, for most people economy is the #1 issue.

Second, McCain is gonna have a very hard time taking the lead on the "character" issue given his philandering past.

IMO.

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Originally Posted by Pariah
Why has the left ignored the HUGE sums he was paid from the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac criminals.

Start here:

"The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from "directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list — using figures from the Federal Election Commission — shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000."



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Originally Posted by AGoodGuy
Originally Posted by Pariah
Why has the left ignored the HUGE sums he was paid from the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac criminals.

Start here:

"The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from "directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list — using figures from the Federal Election Commission — shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000."

In other words, Obama is the lesser of two weevils.

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Originally Posted by AGoodGuy
Originally Posted by Pariah
Why has the left ignored the HUGE sums he was paid from the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac criminals.

Start here:

"The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from "directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list — using figures from the Federal Election Commission — shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000."

Actually, it was $169,000 to McCain and his related committees going back to 1986. Of course he would receive more campaign contributions over 24 years than someone who been in office 3 years. He has been a senator for TWENTY FOUR YEARS, whereas BO has been a senator for 3 years. FM and FM executives, officers, and lobbyists contribute to the campaigns and RELATED COMMITTEES of most candidates that effect the banking business. So this is a bogus assertion that means nothing. There is nothing wrong with recieving campaign contributions.


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http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/07/top-senate-recipients-of-fanni.html

Look at this and note that Obama has acheived this in three years.

And BTW, the Obama camp does not dispute this....they have contributed heavily to him.


THE NEW YORK TIMES PIECE WAS ONLY LOOKING AT CONTRIBUTIONS FROM LOBBYISTS AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS...NOT EMPLOYEES

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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
I guess I am not understanding how it is "sliming" to state a true fact about OBAMA? crazy

Why would it be a problem to state that Obama befriends America haters but is not a problem to befriend America haters? Isn't that a little backwards? crazy

How is it "mudslinging" to say "Bill Ayers is Obama's associate?" How is it "sliming" to point out that Bill Ayers is a radical domestic terrorist who HATES AMERICA and stated that America deserved to be bombed on 9-11? A man who has never expressed remorse for his terrorist activities? Is that NOT TRUE? If it is TRUE, then why would it be "sliming?" crazy

would it be "mudslingling" to state that John Mccain's business associate is joe blow? If so, then wouldn't the very accusation mean that there is something WRONG with that association?

Why would it be mudslinging to state that Obamas preacher is an America HATING sicko who cozies up to other America hating monsters like Castro and Hugo Chavez?

Don't we need to know that Obama has no problem sitting in church hearing "GOD D*AMN AMERICA!!" and no problem associating with America HATERS and domestic terrorists?

That is a REFLECTION on his character, and character is the #1 "ISSUE."

The other "issues" will change from day to day, so we need to know if he has the CHARACTER to lead.

My question would be how does a person sit in church for 20 years listening to hate America bigotry and associate with other america haters if they don't feel the same way? If my preacher started sliming AMERICA and cozied up with totalitarian slave masters in communist slave states, I might have a problem.

But this is the kind of stuff we need to know in order to determine Obamas fitness to lead.

Even if he did befriend an America-hater, at least he didn't marry one, as Sarah Palin did.

Ayers' questionable activity occured many years ago. He does not engage in that sort of activity these days, and hasn't since Obama was in grade school.

Mr. Palin was involved with a secessionist group as recently as earlier this year.

Say what you will, but nothing is more anti-American than seeking to secede from it, through violent means if necessary.

Of course, using the Repblicans' own loose definition of "paling around", John McCain is paling around with ACTIVE domestic terrorists.

It's all moot at this point, anyway. McCain did nothing to close the gap last night.

4 weeks until the end of the "old white man" chokehold on the White House.


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Originally Posted by medc

Yeah, and McCain consistently voted for de-regulation.

At least Obama is man enough to admit that there are no innocents in the economic crisis.


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Ayers' questionable activity occured many years ago.

QUESTIONABLE???? He BOMBED buildings and his actions resulted in murder.

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Ayers' questionable activity occured many years ago.

QUESTIONABLE???? He BOMBED buildings and his actions resulted in murder.

He was never convicted.

Sorry if the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing bothers you. Damn Constitution! mad

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4 weeks until the end of the "old white man" chokehold on the White House.

hurray hurray hurray

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Originally Posted by Krazy71
Even if he did befriend an America-hater, at least he didn't marry one, as Sarah Palin did.

Ayers' questionable activity occured many years ago. He does not engage in that sort of activity these days, and hasn't since Obama was in grade school.

Actually, Bill AYERS is an AMERICA HATER TODAY. TODAY he expresses remorse for not doing more damage when he could. He hates America TODAY and believes we deserved 9-11. Obamas pastor also hates America.

So how do you explain that Obama feels so at ease with America hating domestic terrorists?

DO DEMOCRATS THEMSELVES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OBAMAS AFFILIATIONS WITH AMERICA HATERS? Are you saying this is OK with you gurls?

Did y'all not learn anything about character in the clinton scandals?? yegads! Are you unteachable?

And what does Todd Palin have to do with Obama? That doesn't answer the question about OBAMA. It doesn't matter if Todd Palin is a Russian spy, that doesn't answer the question about OBAMA.


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He was NOT tried due to HIS protections under the Constitution...BUT, HE ADMITS what he did and said they should have gone further and that he does NOT regret his actions.


Once again, it is time for you to educate yourself.

Support Obama all you want. He has a lot of good qualities (and absent abortion might even get my vote)...but at least learn about what you speak.


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Actually, it was $169,000 to McCain and his related committees going back to 1986. Of course he would receive more campaign contributions over 24 years than someone who been in office 3 years.

Aw, Mel, now you are just spitting out the Republican talking points...

Simple fact is what is found on FactCheck.org regarding McCain's claim:

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VERDICT: Misleading. No donations actually came from the companies. One method of measuring employee contributions does put Obama second overall, but another, for the current election cycle, shows McCain receiving significantly more.

The real issues are not this nonsense, it's who can think about issues and work on them. Trying to find a lilly white politician is like trying to find a virgin at a brothel; your time is best spent doing other things. Swiftboating is nothing but diversion; as I said, desperate times call for desperate measures, and the times must indeed be desperate for McCain given this BS.

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Of course, using the Repblicans' own loose definition of "paling around", John McCain is paling around with ACTIVE domestic terrorists.

You mean, "Palin" around?

rotflmao

Yeah, looks like the "evil sorcerer" K.R. missed the mark this time with his suggestion of who should be the VP running mate. Of course, McCain didn't have to LISTEN, but...oh well!! Too bad, so sad!!

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