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it is my belief and contention that the vast majority of the black population will vote based on color regardless of credentials.

And what if I were to say this about the "vast majority of the white population"? How would that make you feel? To me, it's like saying black people are stupid. Do you say this stuff to people IRL?


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well...if you just look at poll numbers, you will see that is factually untrue. In fact, if this were true, Obama could NEVER have won the nomination in a country where blacks only represent 12% of the population!

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How would that make you feel?

If it were true, I would feel sad about how whites are handling themselves. Since it is not, we are left to look at what is actually happening.

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Do you say this stuff to people IRL?

Sure I do. I thought you said it was okay to discuss this stuff. Is it wrong that my perception of the number of people that would vote based on color is different than yours?

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So why are you picking on black people? Let us be PROUD and THANKFUL to have a BLACK PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE!! We can't make him win!!


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It is just so MEANINGFUL and WONDERFUL to US for him just to be the NOMINEE!!


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I'm not picking on anyone. I am having a discussion that can be shown to be factual. You are making this a personal issue between you and me.

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To me, it is OK to have the discussion. I don't like what I consider to be disrespectful judgements.


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Originally Posted by mimi_here
It is just so MEANINGFUL and WONDERFUL to US for him just to be the NOMINEE!!

It would be nice to see the "us" here embrace a candidate because he is qualified and of character instead of his race.

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I am not making it a personal discussion between you and me. You have called ME names...well, calling ME racist, I consider to be name-calling.


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What you consider a DJ, I consider an observation based on provable facts.

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I am not making it a personal discussion between you and me. You have called ME names...well, calling ME racist, I consider to be name-calling.

you made a racist statement to me...suggesting I join the local KKK. You earned the comment by making the racist remark.

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I consider Obama to be qualified. That is my opinion. I do not agree with McCain's political views. If I disagreed with Obama, I would not be a supporter, REGARDLESS of his COLOR.


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and BTW, how dare you make that remark to me KNOWING full well what I have done to help out black children that were not adopted into their own community.

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I was referring to the remark you made about white people rising up or whatever. That has often been stated by the KKK. I'm sorry if that offended you but that was a trigger for me.


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To me, you have stated that I agree with the views of Farakhan. I found that to be offensive. I have not stated the views of Farakhan. I don't even know his views. That's a FACT.


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the bottom line is people are not used to a white person being so willing to call racism by blacks by its true name. I am against racism from everyone. I do not tolerate it in any corner...even when it is not politically correct to do so.

You have used the same tactics that many blacks use when they are questioned about their motives. The cry of racism....and you added KKK. That was pathetic and sad.

Hopefully we can move past that and have a continued respectful discussion.

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To me, you have stated that I agree with the views of Farakhan. I found that to be offensive. I have not stated the views of Farakhan. I don't even know his views. That's a FACT.

really...he hates Jews and whites. YET, he was given an award by Obama's church! That speaks volumes.

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do you think if McCain shared a pew with David Duke it MIGHT be a huge issue right now???

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Originally Posted by mimi_here
I was referring to the remark you made about white people rising up or whatever. That has often been stated by the KKK. I'm sorry if that offended you but that was a trigger for me.

it is time for white America to get back on its feet. They have become afraid of speaking out against injustice by blacks...they don't want to be labeled racist. It got to the point where newscasts in my area would not include race in a description of a wanted person...WHY...because people felt blacks were over represented. Well...they were committing the crimes.

That is the type of stuff I was talking about.

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