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OBAMA: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." LINK Everybody OK w/ this?
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OBAMA: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." LINK Everybody OK w/ this? ... DOOMED TO REPEAT IT And you know who is going to pay for it right?
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A "CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE" already exists. One of the LARGEST is LOCATED on the MILITARY BASE near my hometown, staffed by Ph.D.s and other SPECIALISTS with knowledge about different nations. They work with our embassies and consulates all over the world. Some of the FOLKS in this "CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE" are actually my friends IRL...They feel that they are UNDERSTAFFED....having to travel long distances for extended periods of time and spending lots of time away from their familiies..
They are employed to assist Delta Force(if it exists) and SPECIAL FORCES...
ETA.."ELITE" SOLDIERS..upon retirement..are EMPLOYED by THIS "FORCE"...or GOVERNMENTAL DEPARTMENT..which they won't tell me the exact name of who they work for...
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A "CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE" already exists. One of the LARGEST is LOCATED on the MILITARY BASE near my hometown, staffed by Ph.D.s and other SPECIALISTS with knowledge about different nations. They work with our embassies and consulates all over the world. Some of the FOLKS in this "CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE" are actually my friends IRL...They feel that they are UNDERSTAFFED....having to travel long distances for extended periods of time and spending lots of time away from their familiies..
They are employed to assist Delta Force(if it exists) and SPECIAL FORCES...
ETA.."ELITE" SOLDIERS..upon retirement..are EMPLOYED by THIS "FORCE"...or GOVERNMENTAL DEPARTMENT..which they won't tell me the exact name of who they work for... Thank you for nippin' that one in the bud, mimi! Charlotte
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Thank you for nippin' that one in the bud, mimi!
Charlotte Nipped what in the bud? Is this group that Mimi is talking about just as POWERFUL, just as STRONG, just as WELL FUNDED as our military?
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Obama's plan for a civilian security force refers to his plan to encourage voluntary service for your community and country. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.htmlHe plans to double the Peace Corps' budget by 2011, and expand AmeriCorps, USA Freedom Corps, VISTA, YouthBuild Program, and the Senior Corps. Plus, he proposes to form a Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps, Homeland Security Corps, Global Energy Corps, and a Green Jobs Corps. Here a corps - there a corps - everywhere a corps corps.Ask not what Obama can do for you...ask what you can do for Obama.
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True....but, it's not the red army. I heard that England proposed a civilian security force last year (before Obama mentioned it) but don't know if it ever got off the ground.
I assumed he got his idea from them.
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The Peace Corp is not "a national security force."
And I don't know why we would need to remake it so that it could be just as STRONG, just as POWERFUL, just as WELL FUNDED as our military.
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Is this group that Mimi is talking about just as POWERFUL, just as STRONG, just as WELL FUNDED as our military? They are AN ESSENTIAL and INTEGRAL PART of the MILITARY...makes our MILITARY POWERFUL and STRONG...and ELITE... They MAY be WELL-FUNDED..their OFFICES are well-equipped with all kinds of LUXURIES and HIGH-TECH EQUIPMENT as far as I can tell from inference...No one knows where they work or how to get onto their facility... I can't see how the Peace Corps could be considered a SECURITY FORCE???? The people that I'm talking about actually work on NATIONAL SECURITY...
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Mimi, he didn't say it was A PART of the military, he's said he wants to create ANOTHER "national security force" that is "AS STRONG, AS POWERFUL as WELLFUNDED"as the military (not just wellfunded).
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OK..if you think so, Marsh...
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A "CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE" already exists. One of the LARGEST is LOCATED on the MILITARY BASE near my hometown, staffed by Ph.D.s and other SPECIALISTS with knowledge about different nations. They work with our embassies and consulates all over the world. Some of the FOLKS in this "CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE" are actually my friends IRL...They feel that they are UNDERSTAFFED....having to travel long distances for extended periods of time and spending lots of time away from their familiies..
They are employed to assist Delta Force(if it exists) and SPECIAL FORCES...
ETA.."ELITE" SOLDIERS..upon retirement..are EMPLOYED by THIS "FORCE"...or GOVERNMENTAL DEPARTMENT..which they won't tell me the exact name of who they work for... Thank you for nippin' that one in the bud, mimi! Charlotte Nipping what in the bud??? You don't seriously think that a group if PHd's, thinkers, etc should replace our current military do you?  This is the thinking that got us where we are now. Decreases in the military, showing the world that we're (the USA) a bunch of pansies that want peace not war facilitated the 1993 world trade center bombings, 9/11, etc. This thinking is what makes the USA look weak to those that want to do harm to us. Thinking like this is what makes them (the terrorist) want to come after us again. If anyone thinks that by decreasing our military forces is going to make this a better country, is going to make the extremest not come after us, on our soil AGAIN....they are sadly mistaken. No one....and I mean NO ONE wants war but sometimes it necessary. If you don't stand up to the bully, the bully will never leave you alone.
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OBAMA: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Where would Obama get the money to fund this at the same level as the Pentagon?
What would its mission be?
Where would it get its authority?
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I thought the 2nd Amendment already addressed this...
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If anyone thinks that by decreasing our military forces is going to make this a better country, is going to make the extremest not come after us, on our soil AGAIN....they are sadly mistaken.
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Obama's plan for a civilian security force refers to his plan to encourage voluntary service for your community and country. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.htmlHe plans to double the Peace Corps' budget by 2011, and expand AmeriCorps, USA Freedom Corps, VISTA, YouthBuild Program, and the Senior Corps. Plus, he proposes to form a Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps, Homeland Security Corps, Global Energy Corps, and a Green Jobs Corps. Here a corps - there a corps - everywhere a corps corps.Ask not what Obama can do for you...ask what you can do for Obama. Hmmmm....let's see.....which would I feel safer knowing was protecting my country and her people......The Peace Corps or the Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard. That's a REALLY hard choice but I think I'll take the LATTER...  Obama: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." (emphasis added)
The immediate context for that amazing statement was a preview of parts of his plan to vastly expand community service opportunities for Americans of nearly all ages. He said,
"People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve." Who's going to decide 'WHO' will be asked to serve? And what if "I" don't want to serve...then what?? Kinda sounds like the DRAFT doesn't??? So not only is he going to TAKE YOUR MONEY (well-funded)....he's going to "asked you to serve" PEOPLE....come on! Do you NOT see the danger in this kind of thinking??? Do you not see that Obama is a Socialist that borders on Marxism??
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OMG.... THIS GUY IS SCARY Do people REALLY not see what this will do to this country??? DO they not see that by doing this things that OBAMA states in that message, it makes us sitting ducks....DEAD in the water??? It makes us DEFENSELESS.... We're JUST BEGGING for them to come after us!!
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You don't seriously think that a group if PHd's, thinkers, etc should replace our current military do you? No. This is IN CONJUNCTION with the military.
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Do you know see that Obama is a Socialist that borders on Marxism?? NO. Not at all.
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You don't seriously think that a group if PHd's, thinkers, etc should replace our current military do you? No. This is IN CONJUNCTION with the military. You KEEP believing that.... do you still believe in Santa Claus too??? He's already said that he's going to CUT MILITARY spending.... Exactly how will this be IN CONJUNCTION with the military when he has ALREADY said that he PLANS on MILITARY CUTS??? Why do you think that 3/4 of the MILITARY (per a Military Times poll, look it up) DOES NOT SUPPORT BARRACK OBAMA?????? They (The military) know exactly what KIND OF DANGER Barrack Obama is to the UNITED STATES MILITARY....
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