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Mel, I'm sorry to hear about your husband's health issues. You are both in my prayers. Please keep us updated.
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I really didn't think the groping was going to lead to SF, but it was more of a boyish teasing action. Yep, that's pretty much along the same vein that Mr. W explained to me today too Kirk... He said that inside all men there still lurks a little bit of teenage boy...the part of them that sorta likes that reaction that they can ellicit from a girl when doing something "naughty" - you know, the "OMG, I can't believe you!" coupled with an indignant and sorta playful swat - maybe even an eyeroll...I think I may have taken all the fun out of this for Mr. W and therefore I don't think that I am subjected to the kind of groping that many are mentioning here, because I go along with it when he does it...No acting indignant or offended...I laugh and let him have his fun...As an example, he has this thing that he remembers he and his friends doing, I guess in Jr. High...We'll call it "elbow boobie" [rub elbow against a breast by "accident"]...:RollieEyes: Occasionally he does this to me, and I always giggle, I like seeing the "little boy" side of Mr. W...It's cute and endearing to me...Of course, it probably helps that [according to Mel] I have the sense of humor of a 13 year old boy!  Along the lines of what was being discussed earlier, Mr. W and I neither one deny each other sex...We both believe what the Bible says regarding that...that my body belongs to him and his to me...I don't view sex as something that I "give" him, or vice versa...We view it as a gift that we share together...a way that connects us more deeply...It works very well for us... And yes, what Mark said...a mutual meeting of ENs...Speaking of which, I gotta get to the grocery store now!  Mrs. W
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but it was more of a boyish teasing action.
If that makes any sense. Makes perfect sense. That is EXACTLY how I perceive it when I have been subject to it.
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I am reminded of the old jokes:
“I’ll give you a half hour to stop that!”
And, “Don’t...” “Stop...” “Don’t...” “Stop...” “Don’t Stop.”
I have to say it to women all the time.
"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan
"An ethical man knows it is wrong to cheat on his wife. A moral man will not actually do it." ~ Ducky
WS: They are who they are.
When an eel lunges out
And it bites off your snout
Thats a moray ~DS
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""I have the sense of humor of a 13 year old boy!""We used to tell a girl the following; LOOK DOWN AT YOUR CHEST AND SPELL ATTIC.  :twobyfour:  Gosh, I crack myself up!! Maybe that was earlier than 13...maybe kinnergarden.
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""I have the sense of humor of a 13 year old boy!""We used to tell a girl the following; LOOK DOWN AT YOUR CHEST AND SPELL ATTIC. :twobyfour: Gosh, I crack myself up!! Maybe that was earlier than 13...maybe kinnergarden. Bwahahaaaaaaaa!!! I sooooooo remember that one! How 'bout the ole "North, South, East, West...EQUATOR" done along with the requisite popping of the bra strap??? Mrs. W P.S. Okay I swear, I'm sooooooooo going to the grocery store NOW...I HATE going this close to Thanksgiving, the place will be a MAD HOUSE!!! Grrrrrrr...
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Thanks LG and Michele. LG, it is annoying when I am in the middle of doing something and most especially when we are driving somewhere in the car. In one case, he has my full committed attention and in the other he does not. So, I do know that its not a lack of attention, and it is not a lack of SF either. uh huh I've heard in Texas that could cause things like speeding tickets recv'd in the mail with a picture to prove it, or worse. 
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"We'll call it "elbow boobie" [rub elbow against a breast by "accident"]..."
lol, when my H does that I look all mock indignant and say "you did that on PURPOSE". He always smirks and says "I can't help it if they were in the way." There's a lot of playful "how dare you's" and "excuse me they're not yours, they're MINE." It's a lot of fun and we have a lot of laughs. One of my favourites is when we're in bed in the morning and I accidentally on purpose touch, er, the goods. A lot of giggling and silliness follows (which I must say leads to SF 9x out of 10).
Mrs W, I could have written your post word for word. That is EXACTLY how I see it.
Krazy, not true about the post-it not doing the same thing after the A. You should read some of my H and my text messages. :MrEEk:
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uh huh I've heard in Texas that could cause things like speeding tickets recv'd in the mail with a picture to prove it, or worse. That picture was photoshopped!!! 
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I'm telling you Mel, they sell this spray-on stuff that you can get - spray it on your license plate and the cameras can't capture the license number. No more toll tickets or red-light tickts. Check it out. You need this product - only problem is it will NOT double as hair spray.  I remember the guys who used to take me to the movies. Slip an arm up over the seat, and around my shoulder.....trying to slip that hand down........gropers. We women-folk are wise to these tricks - guys start using them early! My H still uses this one - only now I "fall" for it. Sheesh. Does that make me easy? I need to go pop some corn and put in a movie......quick! SB
Lucky to be where I am, in a safe place to get marriage-related support.
Recovered.
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Most recent D-day Fall 2005
Our new marriage began that day. Not easily, but it did happen.
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I'm telling you Mel, they sell this spray-on stuff that you can get - spray it on your license plate and the cameras can't capture the license number. No more toll tickets or red-light tickts. Check it out. For real?? Sign me right up! One more ticket and I lose my license in this facist police state! 
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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My biggest problem with this is that most OM don't have to put out near the effort that a husband is expected to. Krazy, While this may seem so, it really isn't so....My H (whom was also the OM in HER sitch....) went to FANTASTIC LENGTHS......We are talking phone conversations of at least 3 hrs. per day. TM'S first thing in the morning and all day long. Multiple flower deliveries. Multiple emails throughout the day.....words of love, promises of the future, how wonderful she was...blah blah blah....and lets not forget the $2000.00 worth of jewerly, the plane tickets here, candles all over the condo, rose petals leading a pathway to the bedroom, CD's made with their "songs", Dom Peringon champagne, VS lingerie, theatre tickets and limo rides......And since they lived 1500 miles apart and only saw each other on average of every 17 days...well, she got ALL of that and then some, and she wasn't even boinking him everyday...... Let me tell ya....the emails ALONE would have gotten him "some".....heck, she got the jewerly on their second meeting. It was a month after the "first" meeting, in which they had sex TWICE. I don't get diamonds every couple of times I put out...... jeez.... not2fun ps...Krazy, don't take this so much as directed at you...today's not been the best of days for me....
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One more ticket and I lose my license in this facist police state! OMG!!!  <~~~Me picturing Mel on her new MOPED! Mrs. W
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"My DH KNOWS he's gonna get it and he still is not the nicest guy in the world. Theory doesn't hold water."
The theory pertains to OM not H's!
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This probably warrants another thread, but why should SF have to be initiated just so, in order to make the woman happy? I have no problem giving affection without SF. Do women actually want a man to go through the motions and be affectionate, even when he doesn't feel like it (fake it), just so he can get his SF?
If Other Men had to work this hard to get a little SF, cheating wives would probably be far less common. This has probably been addressed - there's still several pages to go in this thread. But I can tell you women often feel like they have to go through the motions of SF for their H's - and often with only the HOPE of a little affection in exchange. I've been there many times. So have most of my female friends and you read about it on this board all the time. So if it's too much trouble for a husband to show a little affection once in a while, and initiate SF in a way SHE might actually enjoy it, then what the heck do we women get married for in the first place???? (disclaimer: I'm still trying to answer that question)
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One more ticket and I lose my license in this facist police state! OMG!!! <~~~Me picturing Mel on her new MOPED! Mrs. W and I am picturing you on CRACK!!  NO CAN DO!! I will just get a really fast muscle car that can OUTRUN the Texas Rangers! They will nevah catch me! 
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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In that epic battle of Dom Peringon champagne vs lingerie, my money is on lingerie. (5 to 1)
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I will just get a really fast muscle car that can OUTRUN the Texas Rangers! They have one motor you can't outrun... MOTOROLA...Runs at the speed of light, yanno...
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I dunno. Word on the Street is that Motorola is about to run out of gas.
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I dunno. Word on the Street is that Motorola is about to run out of gas. To heck with Motorola, bring on da Dodge Charger!
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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