I am telling everyone what my lawyer is saying. I am not making excuses or taking any action. I spoke with my lawyer on Friday. If I go the route of D and file on the basis of infedility I have to have hard evidence to make her leave the house. Evidence such as
1. a pattern between them
2. some sort of physical contact
That is the laws in the state, there has to be a pattern to prove infedility and adultery. If my PI catches them kissing the next video he gets I have enough for example. Because there will be the pattern of OM in the vehicle with my W which I am paying for and there would be physical contact. Then I could get her out of the house. Without that there is no way that I can just get her removed from the home with only text messages going on. I have a voice recorder in her car for the week and my Pi will be watching her Wed. and Friday. Friday's alwasy get interesting and I will be out of town with the kids. why does everyone call me a doormat for protecting my best interest.

Two weeks ago I provided you a resource at your request...a fathers rights lawyer...so, what did she say????

Would not say a lot over the phone. wanted to set up a meeting to discuss the entire case. I have not been able to get the time off from work yet. I am going to try and schedule something today. That lawyer is in another town an hour away and another county. Not even sure they would take the case in a different county, but will fin out. Fathers rigths lawyer or not what I posted in my previous post is what it takes to file for D on the basis of infedility/adultery.

When did you speak to her? And did you talk to Bonnie or Laura? I will make a call and fill them in. Just let me know when you spoke to one of them and which one.

HG, hate me all you want but I can't stand watching someone die a slow death like you are. What do you think you are teaching your daughters about marriage?

Forget Plan A!!!!!

And for God's sake stop trying to get pictures of your wife screwing OM! Whatever she is today, she is still the mother of your children! You can prevent sex here, instead you are offering it to OM on a platter!

Face it, you're too scared to do anything. You're like a deer in the headlights. What happens to deer in the headlights?

Expose today.

Thanks for the help, but I do not need anyone that I do not know setting up appointments for me or handling this for me. I will handle it and keep all posted.

I am not to scared to do anything, and I do not hate anyone. I am working on my exposure plan and there is no Plan a'ing her.

As a husband myself I have to ask you this....How can you possibly work on an exposure plan that includes letting your wife and OM go to Plan F?

If you have no feelings for her that is one thing but you have stated R is possible. Do you have any idea how much harder R is after the sickly affair couple have copulated? Never mind the images burned into your memory!

Exposure is not something you plan for, it is something you do.

Has my wife and OM done plan F , I am not sure. But I am sure it is well on the way. Her reaction from me taking her phone showed me a lot. She will protect her phone with her life. The texts I did see hurt pretty bad. "i love youto", "that is what I love about you" I have tried to expose this thing a couple of weeks ago to OMW, but she was not receptive. My paln is to get a little so I will have some proff so that the OMW will believe and try and help stop this.

Oh, I wasn't going to set up an appointment for you. I don't even know your name. Bottom line is, I don't think you even called them. I firmly believe you are blowing smoke here and frankly, I refuse to participate any further.

Beleive what you want. I have a well known attorney in this area. He is well know for divorce cases and I am just following his advice on everything that I do in my sitch. My sitch is very unique in my opinion. I don't blow smoke i have been telling everyone here what the truth is and what is going on in my sitch.

what I am saying is, you did not call Bonnie or Laura. You intimated that you called them prior to today.

If your lawyer does not specialize in father's rights, you are wasting your time.

I called the firm! Look medc, you have helped me a lot and I would like for you to continue. I am here looking for help from those of you that have or are going through this. An I am here to talk about my sitch and let people know what is going on. My lawyer is well known in this area for divorces, custody, property acquisition, and so on. I am going on his advice of proving adultery. I also knwo of a case where the father got everything from showing a pattern and catching a small amount of physical contact. It seems the two family court judges in my county frown very heavily on infedility.

After Saturday when my W made such a fuss about me taking her phone, I have been thinking the rest of the weekend and today that I am ready to go plan b and be very dark and distant. How do I do this and live in the same house. I can not leave for 30 days or I can be charged with abandonment. How can I do this? Any help will be appreciated?

Why are you bothering to ask for more help when you take zero advice from the very people who've lived this?

I'm with medc.

Have a nice life.

I've followed most of your thread.

I can't recall anyone ever suggesting that you call the Harleys for coaching. You seem 2 be in need of some fundamental understandings of how the Harley methods work. It doesn't appear you've read the articles on the main page. You should consider that. I'm assuming you have a computer at work? or you wouldn't be posting.

Always remember that you are unique, just like everybody else.

Truthfully, the specifics of each sitch on here ARE unique 2 that 2ple. But at the same time it is important 2 educate yourself as 2 the commonalities in the world of infidelity. People in affairs all behave pretty much the same.

Call the Harleys.

-ol' 2long

I am taking the advice. People tell me to take her phone. I did. People tell me to expose and I am/have. What else is there to do to stop the affair.

I do not recall that either. I will read the page and try and call the Harley's. It seems that medc/iam are no longer willing to help or give advice. Thank you for yours.

...but you have it back. Duh.