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Can women play too? WstbxH left me, a good looking, intelligent, well educated professional with a secure, good paying job, the house and everything in it including the cats for OW who is: -6 years older than him -anorexic -dyes her hair and dresses like a teenager -is so wrinkled from fake-tanning she looks like she's 60 years old -had some sort of condition which required brain surgery -makes less than 1/3 of what I make (grocery store clerk) -is a confirmed serial cheater -family is a mixture of Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses. Needless to say all have disowned her due to her adultery -is stupid beyond description But I have to respectibly disagree with this: Also keep in mind that if one of the APs is affairing down, the other is affairing up. Because in this same situation, OWH makes more money that WstbxH, has a beautiful house in a fabulous neighbourhood (that she left), has a wonderful supportive family and is still friends with all of their friends, and is taller than WstbxH and still has all his hair. So they definitely both traded down - for every aspect of their lives there was to trade. Spouse. House. Status. Standard of Living. Disposable Income. Friends. Family. You name it, they took a hit on it. But they're each with their soulmate now so that makes it worthwhile, right?
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psubiker "I win. I have a royal flush. - no job in 10 years - no money - no car - no home - owes 10k in back child support with a bench warrant to his name - 1 front tooth - WW's second cousin" Remember there will always be some one out there looking to take your title. Just as in the Old West. Some one looking to have more notches on his stock, or to be the fastest.  All I remember is where a BH was left with a gun wound on the side of the road in the winter in the middle of now where. If that poster is here can he refill in the gaps of my memory. I hope you took that extra special offer you recieved on another thread.
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Pariah,
If my memory serves me correctly, you are he that survived been killed off by xWW. Yeah, I got it on tape. I confronted the "marine sniper" with a phone call and something that frightened him to the core as I read the logo on his jacket to him.
I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top.
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I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top.
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I win. I have a royal flush.
- no job in 10 years
- no money
- no car
- no home
- owes 10k in back child support with a bench warrant to his name
- 1 front tooth
- WW's second cousin I'd hate for you to think you made my day... but you did. 
WH - 44 FWW - 50 Married - 2005 d-day - 12/4/2008 NC since 12/13/2008 Her d-day 4/22/2009 Divorcing.
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That's terrible! What is that, short pile rayon? Rubber backed? In shades of death gray? omigod....
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It's the rug she had put at the sofa where I slept so I wouldn't bleed on her floor at night.
I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top.
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Pariah,
It is my understanding that your exWW or OM did not shoot you, but rather, you had a hunting accident when your own gun went off as you were trying to put it back into it's holster...Am I correct?
That you did, however, hear a conversation where WW was trying to get OM to kill you...
Am I close?
Mrs. W
FWW ~ 47 ~ MeFBH ~ 50 ~ MrWonderingDD ~ 17 Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered
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Pariah,
It is my understanding that your exWW or OM did not shoot you, but rather, you had a hunting accident when your own gun went off as you were trying to put it back into it's holster...Am I correct?
That you did, however, hear a conversation where WW was trying to get OM to kill you...
Am I close?
Mrs. W Yes. I recorded the conversation two days before I got shot and didn't get to retrieve the recorder until I got out of the hospital. I had to drag myself across the floor to her car in the middle of the night to get it. I got days worth of her fogbabble on it. A week before that, I had her spare phone activated and got all of her text messages from OM and showed them to her at the dinner table after he tried one of his let it ring once to call him back codes and the SS picked up her phone and showed me the name on it's display. Things QUICKLY went downhill from there. The gun malfunctioned while at a Wildlife Management Area in the middle of freaking nowhere. I truly think OM filed the safety sear down in that revolver. The pix are after my third surgery and the condition you see my leg in is the condition she left me on the side of the road. If I was well enough to drag myself out to the back fence, I was well enough to throw out.
I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top.
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Brutal stuff for sure, Pariah...Glad you survived!  Mrs. W
FWW ~ 47 ~ MeFBH ~ 50 ~ MrWonderingDD ~ 17 Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered
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P.S. I've heard you mention your Near Death Experience and would love to hear about it if you are ever so inclined...
FWW ~ 47 ~ MeFBH ~ 50 ~ MrWonderingDD ~ 17 Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered
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I'll see your underemployed bar trash and raise you a 48 year old career elementary school janitor. Oh no, I'll see you both and raise you a crack addict with hepatitis C, non employable because of her liver condtion, twice divorced, mother at 15, road hard and put away wet creature. Also said that most WS's select an AP from the bottom end the food chain, shallow end of the gene pool, because they want to feel superior in this relationship.
WS's use affairs to make themselves feel better, important. I absolutely had the hardest time wrapping my mind around this.. But I realized one day how true it is and that's why WH wouldn't come home. He could feel better about himself with her and control her. I am the mere beautiful, brazen, fabulous, intelligent, upstanding, woman who put up with his "schtuff" for almost 30 years, loving him when he didn't love him self, and raised his children into amazing young people. Yep he scored with crack ho. 
BS 52, FWH 53, Married 1-1-84 D-day 5-14-07, WH moved in with OW Plan A 9 months, DARK Plan B 3-17-08 until 3-2-09 WH and OW broke up 1-09 Started over 7-09
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Yeah, the counselor today said the OM janitor must have given her "admiration" and she felt an "equal" in the relationship (unlike ours implied).
I don't know, I almost feel this guy was semi-retarded or something (er, mentally-challenged). WW said he went shopping with her because "he would never go into stores himself". And a buddy of mine who knew him in high school said he didn't say a word in four years.
Maybe he is an excellent driver and only shops at K-mart. Jesus....
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Queenie,
Sorry I picked the wrong name when I mentioned this earlier. I think my stroke is messing me a little.
I would think your WH Ho would have put you near the top of the poker stakes!
But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams -Yeats
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Hey, I think Queenie's Ho only comes in second cause she doesn't have any outstanding warrants against her and is not YET in Anger Management. H
Having said that, Our Ho was morbidly obese, ( 5 ft nuttin X 220 lbs) and was goth white. I was a well paid medical professional making well over 60 K per year. She daggone made shoe laces/ not that there's anything wrong with that. When she spoke about herself and my FWH, she would say "him & I", "me & he". With a "We's thought about that", thrown in occasionally. I told her couldn't tolerate the chronic prevarication that I had put up with and she informed me that if anyone said she had an abortion, they were liars.....sooooo
Anyway, our counselors told us that the affair was affaired down because of a subconscious need for the WS to retain a modicum of respect for their spouse. Ity also gave them an easy out once the fog cleared. I believe it GF
Marriages don't fail, people do.
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I would think your WH Ho would have put you near the top of the poker stakes! Oh good, I NEED the extra money.. 
BS 52, FWH 53, Married 1-1-84 D-day 5-14-07, WH moved in with OW Plan A 9 months, DARK Plan B 3-17-08 until 3-2-09 WH and OW broke up 1-09 Started over 7-09
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Hey, I think Queenie's Ho only comes in second cause she doesn't have any outstanding warrants against her and is not YET in Anger Management. Ooops, forgot that one.... She has a suspended liscense with 4 outstanding parking tickets. Ok, I'll give you on the weight.. However.... as far as the coloring goes. Crack ho has long black hair with the wings straight out of the 70's. Wears high heels to a lacrosse field, stomach hanging out and no bra and whatever else "woman of class" wear that she forgets or isn't aware of yet in her limited role of life. 
BS 52, FWH 53, Married 1-1-84 D-day 5-14-07, WH moved in with OW Plan A 9 months, DARK Plan B 3-17-08 until 3-2-09 WH and OW broke up 1-09 Started over 7-09
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Maybe he is an excellent driver and only shops at K-mart. Jesus....  Now wait a minute, that is an insulting comparison to autistic people! My nephew has Aspergers - has memorized the script to every Jim Carrey movie  - and he has never stooped so low. Besides, KMart SUCKS!  My H's OW, last marriage, was a hard drinking, chain smokin' HOUSE PAINTER. She is one of those women who look like they smoke. She drank jumbo BUDS and told folks she "was goin to go tie one on!" Or as my dear father so tactfully put it, "she looks rode hard and put up wet!" 
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Or as my dear father so tactfully put it, "she looks rode hard and put up wet!" Wow, Melody, that's two things we have in common.... I think sobriety is the better of the two. 
BS 52, FWH 53, Married 1-1-84 D-day 5-14-07, WH moved in with OW Plan A 9 months, DARK Plan B 3-17-08 until 3-2-09 WH and OW broke up 1-09 Started over 7-09
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TJ to Mrs Wondering. I had a near death experience in childbirth eons ago. You know, infidelity, the gift that keeps on giving....I had undiagnosed cervical tumors from HPV in the 70's, prevented the baby from "breaking thru". I will post it on other topics in a few days. FWH has a few days off, and I am inclined to be at his side til he finds an independent activity at home. So as not to keep you in suspense, the baby was delivered and is well today, just shy of 30 years, and my now H was not the donor of the HPV. GF
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