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Hey Kez,

Hows it going? Did you get the forms done yet?
I hope the funeral and what not was ok.


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Hi there, i read through all the emotional needs list im going to print them out for hubby tonight. I havent done much as ive had a cold and now i have a chest infection sigh sigh sigh. Hubby said i have been grumpy and this makes him sad. I said i was sorry to him and that i just get annoyed with myself when i get sick cause ive got things to do. He is home on Thursday so we will do our lists then and also put a LOCK on the bedroom door.. My Daughter has been in everynight as she has been having nightmares. At least if we get a lock we can have some alone time before she comes in.. We have also talked about a weekend away just us no kids so we shall plan that.kez

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Thats great to hear (the lock) I am sorry about the cold and chest infection. It was good to see the O&H with your DH, that is awesome!

Hope you feel better soon


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Hi,sorry ive been so slow with information but i have had a chest infection.But i spent yesterday printing out all the basic concepts. And we are doing the emotional needs questionnaire this week end so we shall post after that. Also my hubby put a lock on our bedroom door last night so we are off to a good start.
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The lock is on the door and we are doing the emotional needs questionnaire this weekend so we will post after that.
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Awesome!
So I guess from that your DH is into doing this? I am so happy to hear that.

IS the lock helping? Kids ok with the decision? H ok with it?

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Come on Kez, its been ages LOL

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Ah sorry, ive had my daughter very sick with pleurisy so i havent had any sleep so im very very tired. She is a bit better today so fingers crossed i can get back to normal. I got the best present for Mother's day, its called a chi master (google it). I had a loan of one from one of my yoga buddies and i loved it. So hubby looked on the net and got me one i am so excited. Also i have been waiting on the shrink about my meds but she hasnt replied to my messages perhaps she thinks im a mental case!!Thats about all except im a very tired nurse sigh
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oh thats too bad, give her a hug from me.

Wow, awesome pressie from H smile

hug for the tired nursey too
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Hi everyone, its been ages since i have been on here. But i did get confused when all my posts were lost. Im not sure what i was up to. My babies are 18 today and they go for their driving tests on Tuesday. They are typical teenagers and at times it does get me down. Hubby and i are not doing well at all. last time we had sex about 2 months ago i said to him dont ever ask me to do that again. i keep asking him to do the emotional needs with me and he hasnt.I dont think we will stay together. Im trying to keep really fit and healthy and it seems to be working. I have drastically lowered my anti depressants and im not sure if im doing the right thing cause i feel really down... Ive been working lots and thats ok. ummm thats about all... Kez

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last time we had sex about 2 months ago i said to him dont ever ask me to do that again.

This is really sad. You really do not care about the man at all do you. You are cruel to him and you do not want to work things out. I do not understand why you do not care about him.

You seem to care about your children 1000 times more than you care about your beloved husband who created and supports the children.

Why do you not care about him???

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You've been away for a while Kez, guess its time for a 'refresher'

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It is unfortunate that in America you have a better chance of winning a coin toss than staying married. Let alone happily married.

That simple fact tells you that at least half of all kids come from a broken family. Most people like to call it a broken home because they cannot conceive the notion that they really broke their family. At the very least, allowed it to be broken by another member.

Now with divorce as common as day and night, it is easy for one to forget the importance of family. While in the end it will take both spouses to make the final repairs, all it takes is one to remember that they are a family unit and take action restore it.

The first thing to do is call an emotional truce with yourself. If you are going to succeed in saving your marriage, you can't go into it angry or hurt. No matter what your situation or the cause of your problems, you must be at peace with yourself.

I know from experience the pain of a cheating spouse, so I am not just quoting some text book or telling you what sounds good. No matter what your spouse did you are still responsible for the emotions that you feel. You have a right to be angry, but do you really want to carry that around?

Can one person save a marriage? Yes, if you value your family and are willing to work hard at it. Yes, if you are willing to work long enough and wait your spouse to join in the effort voluntarily.

Here is a suggestion for settling the issues of blame when it comes to getting the ball rolling. Everything bad happened because of influence from outside the family. It all happened because the both of you lost site of what was really important.

No, it's not each other, but the family unit itself. It is bigger than both of you and what is truly worth saving because it is God's greatest gift to you.

You can single handedly rebuild your marriage

and this from the good Dr himself
can one person save a marriage?

and this impact of divorce on women


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*hugs* kez...


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umm im thinking you have no idea what i think and what i feel so i would ask you to not be judgemental why isnt most of you on here just want an argument instead of helping!!!!! Yes i do care about my children thats what real mothers do well it what Australian mothers do! care about him wht in the hell would you know. I care about him enough to have put up with revolting sex for years till i couldnt take it anymore.. I care enough to have been to cousellors to try and work things out.. i care enough to get on here to get help.. i care enough to have been totally honest on here.. Now i care enough to think you can go to hell and i wont be posting on here ever again!!!!

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Thanks jayne that means alot xxxx

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Originally Posted by lildoggie

I beg to differ. That's not saving the marriage alone. Look at the steps:

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1 Set ground rules to make negotiations pleasant and safe: a) try to be pleasant and cheerful through your discussion of the issue, b) put safety first--do not threaten to cause pain or suffering when you negotiate, even if your spouse makes threatening remarks or if the negotiations fail, c) if you reach an impasse, stop for a while and come back to the issue later.
It takes two to do that. If one spouse refuses, the process stops here.
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2. Identify the problem from the perspectives of both you and your husband. Be able to state the other spouse's position before you go on to find a solution.
Ditto here, if one spouse wont tell you what is bother her, both before her affair and during the affair, it doesn't matter how willing one is to listen, reflect and understand the issues, the marriage cannot be saved by will alone. It takes the other spouse opening up. If she won't do it, then it's done.
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3. Brainstorm solutions with abandon. Spend some time thinking of all sorts of ways to handle the problem, and don't correct each other when you hear of a plan that you don't like. You'll have a chance to do that later.
Again, brainstorming requires TWO WILLING participants.
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4 Choose the solution that is appealing to both of you. And if your brainstorming has not given you an answer that you can enthusiastically agree upon, go back to brainstorming.

Willing to BOTH. If one is not even willing to engage in the process, then it's not going to happen.

This article contradicts the notion that one can save the marriage alone, as every step requires the other to participate.

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I agree with EE. One person by themselves can create conditions where joint effort is more likely. One person can make changes that entice their partner to exit withdrawal. But saving the marriage requires both spouses to participate.


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Originally Posted by lildoggie
You've been away for a while Kez, guess its time for a 'refresher'

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You can single handedly rebuild your marriage

and this from the good Dr himself
can one person save a marriage?

and this impact of divorce on women

Maybe,

Read further:

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5009b_qa.html

Notice the Dr says things like:

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I am not printing my answer to T.C.'s question. Instead, I am just printing the letter to show what happens when marital problems are confronted too late. T.C.'s wife did not tell him what was bothering her because she did not want to be a complainer. Little by little her love for him diminished until it had completely disappeared.

T.C. is asking the question, "can one spouse save a marriage" when the other spouse has walked out the door.

So she doesn't tell him what is wrong, a LB she's not being honest. And SHE ends up destroying the marriage because she gives up.

Of course the Dr is "blaming" him, but where is the holding the dishonest wife responsible for her actions?

But more on topic, he says it's too late in many cases.

So while it's possible to save a marriage alone, the real question is how LIKELY is it for a husband or wife to save a marriage alone.

For a husband, probably unlikely given what I've seen here.

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I ask again, Kez, have you told your husband how you feel about the revolting sex and persisted in teaching him how to please you in a non revolting way or have you given up trying to communicate with him about sexual things at all???

Communication is the key.

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Originally Posted by Bubbles4U
I ask again, Kez, have you told your husband how you feel about the revolting sex and persisted in teaching him how to please you in a non revolting way or have you given up trying to communicate with him about sexual things at all???

Communication is the key.

Eggzactly,

If you are not being open and honest, you are LB'ing your husband.

I'm not saying be cruel. I am saying that by keeping silent and building resentment, you are as much at fault for any damage to the marriage and your love for your husband as are any of his actions.

If he LB's you, shame on him, he owns it. If you are silent about it, then you just ownership of the issue with your unwillingness or inability to be open and honest about how you feel and what it would take to resolve the situation.

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