I know you are right JT. I just forget it sometimes I guess. Gee, I couldn't stay married and I can't get divorced either. UGH

WAIT A MINUTE....

I get it now....

ChaiLover is just making this up because MY POS WH was at the top of the list for the WORSE WH. So SHE's making this up about HER WH so he moves back up to the top. Right, CL?

YOU are, like, such a DRAMA QUEEN. You always go for the most popular guys. You'll do ANYTHING to get your guy voted King of the Waywards so you can stand next to him at the dance and look pretty with your new do and all.

OK -- shut me up. I'm just trying to bring a smile to CL's face. A SMILE because you are in the power seat for once. And a plead for mercy from the man who wouldn't even look at you in court. Who turned his back anytime you made eye contact with him.
Oh, to be in your shoes right now. To say "no" for YOU after always saying "yes" for HIM.

If you do accept an offer, please don't be fair. Give yourself something extra for even agreeing to go against the order. If it doesn't benefit you, then you have your answer.

Actually, I think that my WH found out that your's was winning so he had to think of something to keep himself at the top!!

Yeah, I do feel like I'm in the cat bird's seat for once. It seems so simple, doesn't it. Just say "NO." Hey, I like the sound of it....



(Pssst....guess what I am going to say...)

Yaayyy for Chai, Just say NO!!!

I second that...

Just like meth - "not even once"

My sis had a similar issue in her divorce. The judges ruled that she was not responsible for the house debt (but she had other debts).

When the creditors tried to hold her accountable, <mark it against her>, (note: the bank said they did not have to listen to the court! LIARS! and duh- wishful thinking on their part) she had the ruling faxed there and they stopped coming after her and her credit was not marred.

But she had the ruling way before she quit paying. Talk to your Atty.

Thanks Barbie. My atty said that the credit card company is not required to put it in his name, however the court is ordering him to pay. If he does not, he will be in contempt and I can take him back to court. In that case, he would be responsible for all atty fees. I will find out more when I visit with my atty tomorrow.

BUT, I am still saying

GOOD, because I have my eyes on you....

You'd better say no!

Say "no" so we can see what his next brilliant move is. If he really wants to be King of the Waywards, he needs to earn that title. Plus, his move might help me anticipate my WH's next move.

I understand what everyone is saying, but what's going to happen when Chai gets stuck with the CC debt AND the loss of $$ from her 401K?

Sure, she can ask the Judge for an order of contempt but the reality is that even if he is found in contempt, there is a process to get there, i.e. more $$ in attorney's fees. She stands to lose even more $$ in attorney's fees if the fight is continued. At what point does this end?

Chai, you really may need to consider this. Revenge is sweet but it can be costly in the long run.

I don't see this as revenge at all. It's abiding by the judge's ruling.

If her WxH does not pay the CC bill, the CC company CAN come after her as they don't have to abide by divorce rulings. However, if he refused to pay and the CC company came after Chai for it, she can take him to small claims court (depending on the amount) or civil court if it is too large an amount.

It worked for me. WxH was trying to slither out of our bills, he ended up being on the hook in a big way.

For a different bill, I cried and wrote a sob story letter to our creditor asking them to go after him and not me. They agreed and went after him for it.

I wouldn't take a step away from the ruling of the judge. That's just asking for trouble.

What happens if she agrees to his "deal?" She takes the CC debt and he takes less of her 401K. Until she pays the CC debt and he still wants his part of the 401K. You know waywards, he'll have some justification as to why he should only have the 401K amount and NOT the CC debt.

It's trouble I tell ya.

The judge ruled, apparently in Chai's favor. Keep it.

Besides, deviating from the ruling could land both of them in trouble, couldn't it?

So best to do what the judge says.

PM, this is my big fear. My atty says he either has to get the card put in his name or take a loan to pay it off. I will know more when I meet with my atty tomorrow.

You do not give in without a fight, Chai.

So DO NOT attempt to pay anything not in the ruling. DO NOT. Knowing his record, like it's been said before, he may let you pay off the card and still want part of your 401k.

My atty did say that he would be in contempt if he didn't pay and that he would have to pay legal fees if I took him back to court. I see what PM is saying too in that it could get costly. I don't think my WH would ignore a court order, but again, he is under the influence of Miss Mullet who sees him as a cash cow. I have his health to consider too. What if he croaks or has to quit work before he gets the bill paid? Then I've given him part of my 401K and I get stuck with the debt too.

What ticks me off most is that I offered to take this debt 2 years ago (when I had a job) and he didn't like the deal because I asked him to take our joint card. Now he has the joint card plus mine. By the way, mine is $21K so it's pretty substantial.

So, you don't want to take anything. HE will be in contempt and your A will probably be nicer about the whole thing since your XH will have to pay atty's fees.