My marriage is not recovered and my WH is still in his A...I do not blame MB at all....when I did the Plan A and the Plan B, I took the guaruntee as it would be the best chance for recovery of M, not a guaruntee of recover of M....I beleive that if I didnt find MB that i would be in the same position I am now in my M, but my personal recovery would have been much different and not for the better...Just my two cents.

Perhaps I should credit MB with my basic survival.

I hope this "plan" doesn't include the expectation that your stbxw will be destroyed or devastated...because she probably won't be (or let you know either way). She, too, may have really stayed "just for the kids" herself. Who knows what her sick wayward entitled
mind thinks. I just hope you don't expect anything. Besides...the "satisfaction" would be short-lived anyway....getting out, the sooner the better, should be the MAIN priority.

In fact, I find it likely she'll TRY to flip this around on you and portray this as an evil plot to destroy her which she'll use to prove/rationalize and justify to everyone in her circle (and, maybe the kids) that YOU are (and always were) the ACTUAL evil one.

Just be careful...when you go down to someone's level to try to beat them....they end up beating you because they've got more experience.

Mr. Wondering

Agree. This type of disordered miscreant will send you to an early grave.

Some people do not read posts very carefully.

I did MB by the book.

I have posted before - MB methods killed the VLTA that would not die like a silver bullet. Surprised me it worked so well. That part of MB is very effective and should be advertised as so.

Plan A � Seems I had been doing a very good job meetings ENs all along. Shoot I lived for her. MB trained counselor, ENQ, wife�s IC (part of my Plan B letter requirements) and wife herself all said so. She did it because she could (just like Clinton said). It was not a case of missing main courses. It was an extra desert. MB does not even address this very well. If it isn�t ENs then it must be addictions and good luck.

Plan B � totally dark, including intermediaries. Lasted 6 months then she agreed to meet all Plan B letter requirements and in fact did so. She was not all that remorseful, pretty much like the adulterous wife in SAA. But wait � according to SAA remorse is not at all required, is it. Well, it�s required for me.

The point that seems to be missed is I am not going to get over the sex part of the VLTA. All the MB approach to recovery did is waste my time with assured promises of me getting over everything. But I am not getting over that. Makes it all my fault I guess.

So, I have my own plan now to leave when it is optimum for me to do so. MB failed in my case. And it isn�t, despite how much it scares you to hear it, it is not because I did not do it by the book. The other poster has it right when he noted that around here if the religion does not work for you it�s by definition your own fault.

And yes, I agree, I should no longer come here. Shoot, I even have a stalker on here.

But if anyone is keeping score � this one gets an F.

LG: Live long and prosper. Your probably better off without her. Only time will tell. Recovery takes many forms. The fight you fought for your M and your children was a valliant one. Take pride in that. What is happening now is just the natural progression of the destruction of your marriage. She is driving that bulldozer. You tried to prevent it. Maybe you had a shot. But it was a very small window. On reflection, maybe I assumed too large a window for you. For that, I apologize. LG

Penny's methods are not endorsed by MB as Mr W says.

Aph ... I'm so sorry.
I know this must hurt.

TEN YEARS??! Why do we delude any of us can fix that??!! DUDE