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I am looking into seeing what this thing is as we speak
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Does anyone know more about the KeyLogger?
I have to download this on his computer....he would know as he is a computer guy...plus I would have to get his computer when he is logged on. I do not think this will work for me...

Anyone have experiences with the keylogger.....
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Originally Posted by Saanum
What is a keylogger and how do u do that?
Thanks for your imput... I hate my life right now

Saanum, a keylogger will record all of his activities on his computer and email them to you in a report. You just have to get on his computer, install it, and then program it to email you the reports. The one I know about is eblaster and it runs around $100. You would download it on your computer, copy it to a disc or a stick and then install it on his computer. It takes about 5 minutes.

I would do that first and then plan to have a discussion with your H about the OW. Your marriage will never recover as long as he has secrets with the OW to which you are not privy. You need to know who she is, where she lives, everything. But first, try finding out on your own and see what you can find out.


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Don't believe she is widowed. She may have lied to him about that, he may have lied to you about that.

Do continue to find out more about her.
Does your WH use facebook? Can you see his friends list?

When you exposed, did you expose to his family or only yours?
Did you tell your children?

Quit thinking about Plan B right now. You need to be in Plan A. Read up on it... link in my signature.

What are his top ENs?
How are you meeting them?
What LBs do you commit?

Links in my sig if you don't know what some of that means.

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Originally Posted by Saanum
Does anyone know more about the KeyLogger?
I have to download this on his computer....he would know as he is a computer guy...plus I would have to get his computer when he is logged on. I do not think this will work for me...

Anyone have experiences with the keylogger.....
Thanks everyone on MB

You can download a keylogger to run in stealth mode. No icons, no files showing. It also deletes its own installation files. This can be difficult for even computer-savvy people to find. I know my way around a computer and the one I used was not detectable.


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Thanks so much going to your signature right now...

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I only exposed to my family as his family speaks German and lives there. Did not tell my kids...did not want to hurt them...my family all knows

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Turtlehead is that where I go for your signature?
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Originally Posted by Saanum
I only exposed to my family as his family speaks German and lives there. Did not tell my kids...did not want to hurt them...my family all knows

What did his family say to him about this?


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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I think it is recommended to let children over the age of 7 (?) to know about the affair. By saying something like daddy has a girlfriend and its wrong.

It it very important to expose him to his family, and the OW to her family if possible. They have the most influence over your WH. They may or may not get involved (Involvement isn't always desired), but the knowlege that his family knows will disrupt the A.

After complete exposure, not half an exposure, is when you decide to go to Plan A or Plan B. Have them both ready. Start with Plan A, do a letter of NO CONTACT, and be the best person on earth for him to run to.

If he does not stop contact then go to Plan B.

Listen to Melodylane, she is superb, and will most likely give you better advice than I ever have.

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Originally Posted by Saanum
Turtlehead is that where I go for your signature?
Thanks
I'm not sure I understand your question.
Look at the bottom of my posts. You will see
Emotional Needs
Love Busters
Plans A/B

Click on them.

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His family does not know.
I have no contact with his family, as well they speak a different language.
I believe he did not say anything to them either....that I do know.
He is going to Austria in the spring and I have asked to go .. he is not sure he wants me to go.
He does not want to get my hopes up.

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Ok, I understand what you mean.
I have been really working at his EN .. he does not yet know about this site....but has said I have changed enormoulsy, even before the A was out in the open.

I guess my dilema is I am really trying to meet his EN .. and things are pretty good with us...but I do not trust him and that he is not in touch with her....I am keeping my eyes open..but the computer thing will be a no go...he is too aware

He is being very affectionate to me and considerate. Making Love has never been an issue with us....he is just screwed up....so I will keep up with his EN and hope it works...but how do you REALLY know?

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Originally Posted by Saanum
His family does not know.
I have no contact with his family, as well they speak a different language.
I believe he did not say anything to them either....that I do know.
He is going to Austria in the spring and I have asked to go .. he is not sure he wants me to go.
He does not want to get my hopes up.

This is just a thought but can you write a letter exposing the affair and use a translation service to have it translated to their language and send it to them? I'm not sure exactly how it will work but I know that for my work we have to have letters translated at times.

Is he traveling to Austria for work? Why is he not sure you can go?


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Your not going to believe this..but they do not have internet..I guess I could mail it...but not sure I want to do this.
His reason for not wanting me to go for a visit as I did not want to go previously...and then the excuse of..he does not want to give me any false hope...but then one day said..I have no problem if you go. He is all over the map.

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He makes the trip for work and visit as then the company will pay for it. He also has a daughter he wishes to see when he goes there.

I think he feels I am pushing him to go and then they would see us together...he did tell them on his last visit at Xmas that things were not good with us. So he does not want to give them false hope either. Sounds like he is talking to the OW to me....

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Originally Posted by Saanum
Your not going to believe this..but they do not have internet..I guess I could mail it...but not sure I want to do this.
His reason for not wanting me to go for a visit as I did not want to go previously...and then the excuse of..he does not want to give me any false hope...but then one day said..I have no problem if you go. He is all over the map.

Why don't you just inform him that you will be going, Saanum? I would suggest you assert yourself a little here. He can only treat you as a child if you act the role.


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Originally Posted by Saanum
Your not going to believe this..but they do not have internet..I guess I could mail it...but not sure I want to do this.

Why not?

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Marriage is built on honesty.

When you fail to tell his parents about the affair, you are aiding and abetting. You are covering up his poor behavior. You are making yourself an accomplice to his horrendous crime against your marriage.

I do not understand why you would want to perpetrate this lie, especially to his parents who understand him and love him and want to see him do the right thing.

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Your right I .. I am going to be going to Austria and I am going to be telling them...via writing a letter to explain the current situation. exposeure!!

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