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Tell OM's wife and parents/siblings all on the same day and show them the love poems. Chances are he tucks his tail and runs away.

Also expose to your WW's family. Show them the email.

Keep tracking everything. Her computer (spy software), cell phone (online), movements (GPS on her car). Keep her and OM from being able to communicate.

At the same time keep meeting the needs she'll allow you to meet with plan A and avoid love busters.

As far as the bedroom, you calmly and politely say that you are staying in the marital bedroom, and if she has a problem, then she can be the one to leave. Chances are she'll be back after a couple nights.


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I agree the affair must be knowledge to family and friends and work with the OS. An affair is not as much fun when everyone is watching......she might be mad a first but she will get over it........
Just telling her you are trying to save your marriage and that you think it's important enough to stop the affair and work on your marriage, tell her you love her that much....and that you think she is worth it.......to go to that extent......
be as understanding and loving as you can be and just keep telling her how important your family is to you.....
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Trust me...when she returns from out of town(I know where she is and who she's staying with) the fit is going to hit the shan.

I have enough contact information to make life very uncomfortable for BOTH OM and my W


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I just really needed the esprit de corps that I've encountered on this board.


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Originally Posted by jlowesd
Trust me...when she returns from out of town(I know where she is and who she's staying with) the fit is going to hit the shan.

I have enough contact information to make life very uncomfortable for BOTH OM and my W

jlowes, what exactly is your plan? Did you see my post about exposure? We have been doing this for a very long time and we know which strategies that work best. You have ONE SHOT to do this right and after that, you have pretty much spent your best shot. This is why it is very important to do it RIGHT the first tme.


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1) Confront...demand all contact stop
2) If she refuses (which she will), then I plan on exposing to:
OMW, WW's family and close friend(s), OM, OM's family the day after I confront.


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Originally Posted by jlowesd
1) Confront...demand all contact stop
2) If she refuses (which she will), then I plan on exposing to:
OMW, WW's family and close friend(s), OM, OM's family the day after I confront.

jlowes, I would reverse this order. FIRST expose the affair and then demand she end her affair. You have to expose it anyway in order to recover your marriage and doing so will give your demand more TEETH.

Exposure should not be contingent on anything becuase it is what will kill the affair and restore your marriage. If you make it a contingency plan, she will promise to end the affair and then just go fuerter underground.


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You have already demanded that she stop this affair and she refused.....you already know her answer. Expose first...make this cockroach scurry from the light!!!

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Expose and then she will actually confront YOU when she finds out what you did. Exposure is not meant as a punishment. It is a step in the PLAN to help YOU.

When are you going to expose? Do you have a list of people you will expose to? Do you know what you will say/write? We can help you with it(not the exposing itself but the words). laugh


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Yes...I have a list of people to expose the A to starting with the OMW.

Please...I need scripts for: OMW, WW Family/friends, OM, OM family/friends.

Thank you all!



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Check back tomorrow. Script writers are not here late all the time. Do expose BEFORE talking to WW, please. Otherwise all sorts of bad things happen. Too sleepy to list right now.

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Only a fool will delay exposure. You think you know where your WW is. She's away hooking up with the OM.

Moves you out of her bed. WW is being faithful to her OM.

Expose now. No script needed. Tell the truth to the point. You want those you expose to, to know that the OM and WW are having an affair. OM is hurting your marriage and children. Your goal is to say your marriage and family.

Move back into your bed. You're not the one having an affair.

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I can verify where she is and who she is staying with.

Do I expose while she is out of town or should I wait until she gets back?

Yes, I've already moved back into my bed.


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Originally Posted by jlowesd
I can verify where she is and who she is staying with.

Do I expose while she is out of town or should I wait until she gets back?

I would do it all today! Let her come back and face the music.


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Originally Posted by jlowesd
I can verify where she is and who she is staying with.

Is the OM there too? This is something I would verify with the OM's wife when you call her.


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Originally Posted by Dr Willard Harley on Exposure
Should it be exposed to others, or kept secret? I generally recommend exposure. When should it be exposed? I usually recommend that it be exposed immediately. To whom should it be exposed? I recommend that family, friends, children, clergy, and especially, the lover�s spouse be informed. Exposure in the workplace depends on several factors.

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Exposure is very likely to end the affair, lifting the fog that has overcome the unfaithful spouse, helping him or her become truly repentant and willing to put energy and effort into a full marital recovery. In my experience with thousands of couples who struggle with the fallout of infidelity, exposure has been the single most important first step toward recovery. It not only helps end the affair, but it also provides support to the betrayed spouse, giving him or her stamina to hold out for ultimate recovery.
When Should An Affair Be Exposed?


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No...OM is not there as I checked the cell records and you guessed it...hundreds of texts to the OM. WW is staying with family.


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Originally Posted by jlowesd
No...OM is not there as I checked the cell records and you guessed it...hundreds of texts to the OM. WW is staying with family.

jlowe, then maybe one of your exposures could be to the family she is staying with? Get most of your exposures out of the way this morning and then call the family she is with. Tell them all about the affair, let them know she is communicating with the OM [who is married!] from their home and ask them to use their influence to persuade her to stop.


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Originally Posted by jlowesd
Wife of 16 years is having an EA with an "old" friend from high school. Cell phone records show thousands of text messages to each other for the last three months. I know they have seen each other and I'm pretty certain there has been no physical contact. I confronted her twice about it, asked her to stop contact, she refused. She also refuses to call it an affair. When I confronted her she brought up separation and divorce. Now she says she just wants to live as roomates/friends but I know that is the fog talking. She moved my clothes into another bedroom...she is out of town and I've since moved my things back into the closet. We have two children and I don't want our family busted apart because of her destructive behavior.

Here are my questions:

1) Do I confront one more time then officially start Plan A?
2) Am I within my rights to have her sleep in the spare bedroom or would that conflict with Plan A? Is that an LB? She wants peace in the house when she returns.

I don't want to push her out but at the same time I will not be a doormat!

Thanks!

EA only!!! They all deny the PA at first. Having been where you are, I know that no one texts someone that much unless there is also a PA. Not sleeping in the same bed??? She is fully engaged in a PA.


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I still need the exposure scripts for OMW, OM, OM family/friends, WW Family/Friends.

Do I do this by phone, email, or a combination of both. I'm thinking phone for the people that I have a phone number for and email for those that I don't?

Thanks



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