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What do you mean "lay down the law"? That sounds like a selfish demand to me. In other words, a LB. In other words, don't do it. That I am sleeping in the marital bedroom and she is free to sleep next to me, in the other room, the couch, or elsewhere Okay, here's what you've got to watch: don't tell her she's free to do anything. She already thinks that - your giving her 'permission' will piss her off. WW: nw, what do you think you're doing!? Why are you going into the bedroom with your overnight bag?? nw: Because that's where my clothes go. WW: But :::sputter sputter::: I thought you were staying at your parents!? nw: I thought it was a good idea for us to cool off a little. But I think it's a better idea for us to stay together in our own house while we do it.
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Yeah...good point...although my older daughter is sick right now so this one is out but I like your idea and will do that the next competition.
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WW has already said that "she is beginning to hate me"... Translation: "I'm beginning to hate that you exposed my affair and are no longer letting me walk all over you. I liked being able to do whatever I wanted without consequence." Boo freaking hoo. She'll get over it. Things will die back down in a couple weeks, especially if exposure leads to NC.
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OK maritalbliss...last night she told my therapist that she wants to be physically separated...In fact, this morning she said she doesn't want to talk to me anymore...not sure if she meant this morning or in the near future.
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Lately, I don't even know if I want to talk to this thing that has invaded my wife"s mind
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OK maritalbliss...last night she told my therapist that she wants to be physically separated...In fact, this morning she said she doesn't want to talk to me anymore...not sure if she meant this morning or in the near future. Well, that's just dandy. And it still isn't cause for you to remove yourself from her presence. I guess she'll just have to figure something else out, now that you've cojone'd up and are rightfully taking your place in your home.
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OK maritalbliss...last night she told my therapist that she wants to be physically separated...In fact, this morning she said she doesn't want to talk to me anymore...not sure if she meant this morning or in the near future. Well, that's just dandy. And it still isn't cause for you to remove yourself from her presence. I guess she'll just have to figure something else out, now that you've cojone'd up and are rightfully taking your place in your home. So true...so true.. Of course she said that when I called and asked if another man came to the house last night!
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Could she be meeting up with OM at the competition?
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jlowes, I am wondering if your clothes fit the OM for when he comes over and takes your place? And thank you so much for leaving your family so he would be free to come in and do your wife in your bed in your daughter's home. It makes it much easier for him to to take your place. What is his criminal background? Any child molesting in his background? The risk of child molestation goes way up when there is no father, so if he is a child molestor, I am sure he appreciate you getting out of the way so he will be free to destroy your family. What a nice guy are.  Now, remind whose SIDE you are on? Because from the outside it looks like you are on the BAD GUY'S SIDE. Is there any responsible adult around there who can protect your daughters since you HAVE ABDICATED YOUR POST, SIR?
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OK maritalbliss...last night she told my therapist that she wants to be physically separated...In fact, this morning she said she doesn't want to talk to me anymore...not sure if she meant this morning or in the near future. I think that is really cute and winsome. But what does it have to do with anything? People in hell want icewater, it doesn't mean they get it.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Does the OMW know the OM was in your house shagging your wife? Have you kept her in the loop?
Have your daughters been told about their mother's adultery and warned that the OM is a bad man? Your kids have very likely been exposed to this scumbag and maybe THEY CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES SINCE NO ONE ELSE WILL. At least if they are forewarned, maybe they can do something to protect themselves.
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One thing that might be helpful since you are allowing the OM to come to your house when you are gone is to give the girls butter knives.
They can slide the butter knives under the door frame so the OM can't get in and harm them.
Can you at least leave them some butter knives and tell them this trick before you leave them the next time? They should have some method of self protection since no one else is doing that job.
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Hmmm...ML is in the house and she ain't happy. Listen up, j. This business of accommodating your WW and her bang buddy doesn't fly with her or most folks on here. And there's a reason. That's NOT the way you're going to bust up this A!
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jlowes, if you want to save your marriage, you are going to have to man up and start protecting your marriage and your family. Running off and leaving your daughters to the mercy of a WW and her RAT VERMIN of a OM is not standing up for your family. There was absolutely NO REASON IN THE WORLD for you to spend the night elsewhere. NONE.
You abandoned your family in their time of NEED, SIR. This rat vermin was allowed to come in YOUR HOME in your absence.
If your wife wants to be "separated" then tell her buh-bye and carry her bag to car. But don't YOU leave and don't allow her to take your children without a court order and BIGASS SHERIFF with a gun to enforce it. If she wants to carry on her scummy affair conversations in you and your childrens home, then I would follow her around with a FOG HORN and tell her to "take your affair conversation out of our home!!" That should not be tolerated.
You have to stand up for your marriage, jlowe. NO ONE ELSE IS. You have to PROTECT your daughters; THEY HAVE NO ONE ELSE. NO ONE. Leaving them in the care of an insane woman and her rat vermin boyfriend is unconscionable.
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Agree Mel!
Here is the latest:
Told WW that I am sleeping in our bed.
WW mentioned divorce
I told her she needs to decide what is more important...OM or our family.
She replied that our daughters are the most important thing in the world...how dare I question that. He is not the cause of our marriage ending...I need to leave him out of these conversations...I need to accept the fact that our marriage is over...the love is gone.
Thinks I'm trying push her out of our daughters lives...told her I'm not
We can't live under the same roof...how long does it take to finalize a divorce. I told her 6 months is the soonest so she replied she'll have to talk to someone next week.
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Also told her that I'm staying in this house...period
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Oh yeah...she took down all the pictures of us together...NICE!
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Think I'll put the pictures back out
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And what did the OM's wife say when you let her know that as soon as you left home for a night, OM showed up in your home?
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