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Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS #2368071 05/05/10 08:12 AM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	Thought it was time for an updated thread on spying since technology is rapidly changing: Keyloggers: I prefer eblaster because it is usually undetectable and will email reports to you. It is around $100 and can be found at spectorpro.com. Very easy to install and you only need to access the target computer once. Another good one was recommended by Fred: WebWatcher (www.webwatchernow.com). cell phones: flexispy. This will give you a log of incoming and outcoming along with the actual texts of text messages. It won't record phone calls. The souped up version has a built in GPS. This is fairly easy to install but you have to download the software using the phone and install it. Runs from $149 to $349 at flexispy.com "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MelodyLane #2368073 05/05/10 08:15 AM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	Originally Posted by Crushed Jim I am reviving this thread because I just learned of a new site that will provide real time GPS tracking for FREE....well, mostly free. You need phone service that costs 35 cents a day! so for under $11/month you can track your cheating spouse! The site is instamapper.com. You can create a free account that you set your cellphone to report its location to. You load their software on the phone and you can log onto the site and see exactly where the phone is in real time. As far as the phone, Boost Mobile sells various models for around $50 with the pay as you go service. If you select web access, it costs 35 cents a day. Load the software, charge the phone, toss it into a trunk, under a seat, glovebox or whatever, and you can always see where your phone is. I have been 'testing' the site and phone for a few weeks now... one word....incredible!!! DIY Real-Time GPS Tracking here This DIY contains step-by-step instructions on how to track your vehicle from the Internet using a $40 prepaid cell phone and InstaMapper's free GPS tracking service. The end result should be similar to what you see in this demo. Summary Difficulty level Easy to medium, depending on whether you want to permanently install the cell phone in your car. Time commitment 1-2 hours, including the time it takes to buy a phone. Hardwiring the phone into your car will take a bit longer. Everything needed for this DIY can be purchased locally. Cost The prepaid cell phone costs about $40. The phone comes with $5 of free service, sufficient for 14 days of tracking. After that, you pay $0.35 / day for Boost's unlimited data plan, needed for sending location data to InstaMapper. What you get 24/7 online GPS tracking with very fast position updates. As an added benefit, you can use the cell phone to make emergency phone calls ($0.10 per minute), and send / receive text messages and emails ($0.10 per SMS). The phone also has limited capabilities for web browsing. Steps: 1.Buy a cell phone 2.Activate it 3.Create a free InstaMapper account 4.Install tracking software 5.Optionally, hardwire the cell phone to your car's battery -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Buy Boost Mobile's Motorola phone Boost Mobile prepaid phones (i290, i335, etc) are available from most major retailers, including Best Buy and Target. We recommend buying from Target because of their 90-day return policy. Disclaimer: buy the phone at your own risk. InstaMapper tracking service is provided as-is. There are no guarantees that anything will work or that the tracking service will continue to be available. Save the receipt to your phone in case you need to return it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Activate the phone �Install provided SIM card and battery. �Turn on the phone by holding the red "hangup" key. The phone will display "No Service". �Go to Boost Mobile's phone activation page. If the link doesn't work, go to http://boostmobile.com, click "activate" and then "create a new number" under PayGo. �To activate the phone, you will need three numbers -- SIM (back of SIM card holder), activation number (back of SIM card holder), and IMEI (bottom of the retail package). �Make sure to select "activate wireless web". Your phone will not be able to transmit data without this option. �If you don't receive a phone number at the end of registration, check your email after a few minutes. The number will also be sent to your phone as a text message. �Power cycle the phone. It should now say "Boost" and display a few bars of signal strengh. �The web browser may initially give error messages ("error while retrieiving user"). The errors do not interfere with tracking and will go away in a day or two. �You may want to change some of your phone settings (Menu -> Settings). For vehicle tracking, you probably want to set the ringer volume to 0. We also prefer to silence the keypad, set theme to "Alkali", wallpaper to "Ramps", and enable home icons. Your mileage may vary. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Create a free InstaMapper account Use this link. Registration should only take a minute or two. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Install tracking software The easiest way to Install InstaMapper on your phone is by loading it over-the-air using this tool provided by Sprint: http://144.230.114.35/adp1/FUN/index.jsp?output=100 The tool will ask you for a .zip file, which you can get here. Then go to Menu -> Games & Apps -> Download Apps. Click on "New Purchases". If you don't see the app there, navigate to Menu -> My Info on your phone and hit "Edit". If Line 1 is empty, enter your full phone number there (starting with the area code). Then try downloading the app again. Alternatively, you can install the app from your PC using a regular USB cable and Motorola's iDEN Java Application Loader (JAL) software. The latter can be downloaded directly from Motorola here (free registration required; click "join MotoDev" when they ask you for your login information). After JAL is installed, connect your phone to the PC with a USB cable, start JAL, and hit "Connect to phone". Unzip InstaMapper tracking software to a folder on your PC, then hit "Download" and select "GPSTracker.jad" from that folder. Hit "Disconnect" when the transfer completes. Now start the app you just downloaded -- it will be under "Java Apps", possibly on the second screen (hit "More"). The app is called "GPS Tracker" and has an icon that looks like a satellite. Enter the device id from your InstaMapper account. Click "Save". The phone will ask for your permission to access the GPS chip. Say "yes". When the status message changes from "Locating..." to "Tracking..." your should be able to see the location of your phone on InstaMapper. Note: the app will pop into foreground during the first few days of operation (the intention here is to discourage covert tracking). Unfortunately, on Motorola phones a notification sound is played whenever an application requests to be run in the foreground. We recommend leaving the app in the foreground during the first few days that it's running, or muting notification sounds in the phone's settings. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Hardwire the phone For 24/7 tracking, you can hardwire the phone to your car's battery. Only do this if you are comfortable with your car's electrical system, and are willing to accept the risks (shorts, fires, etc). Seek the help of a professional installer otherwise. The basic idea is to get a SYN1630 Motorola car charger for your phone ($7 on eBay, other chargers may also work), then connect the charger to car's wiring with RadioShack's Accessory Outlet ($7, catalog number 270-1556). You will need to find an always-on 12V wire in your car. To do this, consult the wiring scheme for your car, ask your mechanic, or simply probe the wires with a small sewing needle connected to a multimeter. If your car's fuse box is accesible, an easy way to attach the red wire of the outlet kit is by using a fuse tap such as this one (available at most local autosupply stores). The black wire can be attached to any grounded metal bolt. As an alternative, you can get an adapter that will power on your phone automatically whenever you start the car. See this discussion for details. We recommend installing the phone in the glove compartment. This way the phone is easily accessible for making phone calls. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Important notice InstaMapper does not allow covert tracking. You may not track a person without his or her consent, or track an object without the consent of its owner. "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MelodyLane #2368075 05/05/10 08:16 AM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	Originally Posted by Doormatnomore It took a voice-activated recorder to catch my wife making plans to divorce me and marry her lover. It might be intimidating to set up, but it's really straightforward. The biggest risk is battery-swap time, that you'll be caught. Important note: It's better to buy digital than analog (that is, one with a memory chip rather than a physical tape) because they typically consume much less battery life, record more without swapping media, and are TOTALLY SILENT compared with the subtle winding noise of an analog VAR... 1. Go to Radio Shack with cash in your hand -- around $100 should do it -- and order one of their cheaper digital voice-activated recorders. You should be able to find some decent options in their catalog for less than $60. Make sure the VAR uses replaceable, standard-type batteries (size AA or AAA). Also pick up some sticky-backed Velcro from Wal-Mart or a craft store; it's typically less than $5.00. And enough rechargeable batteries to have one set in the VAR and one in the charger; if the VAR takes two AAA batteries, I'd buy six rechargeable batteries to be on the safe side. 2. Charge the batteries. Or if you're using Alkalines and are OK with burning through a few sets of batteries a week, don't worry about charging. 3. Practice with the VAR in privacy to make sure that the Beep setting is off (it can be set to "beep" when it's recording), that it records silently, and that you know it's turned on. Also become familiar with the PC transfer capabilities of the VAR and how to change batteries very rapidly. You'll need these skills. 4. At a time when your spouse is sleeping or otherwise not using the vehicle, use some Velcro to mount the VAR somewhere near the steering wheel. Most cars have a "false front" just above the pedals where you can stick the VAR. Use a long strip of velcro -- the length of the VAR, if possible -- to keep it secure. If your vehicle doesn't have any sort of "false front" near the driver, you may need to find somewhere else innocuous to plant it. Make sure it's somewhere that you wouldn't think of as a place to hide something. 3. Here's the scary part: setting up some kind of schedule to swap the batteries every day or every few days, depending on model and consumption. You need to be able to get into the car, change the batteries, and escape unnoticed. Does your spouse go to bed early? Late? What time does the wayward spouse arise? Document the patterns and you'll find an easy opportunity to place it without notice from the wayward. 4. Once a week or so, download the VAR audio logs to your PC or Mac and listen to them. Or, if you have one that does not include PC transfer abilities, use the fast-forward features to skip as much silence as possible. Only keep the incriminating recordings, and carefully note the time/date these incidents occurred. Look, a voice-activated-recorder in a vehicle typically nails them the first time, almost every time. They are never expecting it, particularly in the car. But it also takes some work on your part, because you get to listen to a lot of radio time and random chatter, and it's a little tough to set up and get familiar with a new piece of technology. In some cases, it's even caught the lovers having sex in the car! Now, if you don't want to buy a VAR, but have laptops laying around your house with microphones in them like I do, you can download a free application called "Audacity". It's not voice-activated, but just set it to "record" and you can skip all the silence visually by dragging the cursor. Make sure to disable the power-saving settings on your laptop so that if the top is closed it stays on, and set it, plugged in, somewhere innocuous near that wayward spouse's "favorite spot" in order to catch their adulterous conversations. It's important to note where the CPU vents are in the case... you don't want that fan winding up because the CPU is overheating while your spouse is talking, alerting them to the recorder! Hope these tips help. Most spouses catch cheating spouses with a VAR in the car within just a few days. I caught several conversations, but nothing incriminating enough for 5 days. "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MelodyLane #2368076 05/05/10 08:17 AM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	Originally Posted by Doormatnomore Just had an additional thought for this thread. If you were to rank the most effective snooping methods, what would they be? 1. For ease of use, ease of installation, low cost (from free to just less than $100), and amazing ability to nab spouses misbehaving online, a screenlogger and screenshot logger combo on their computer is very hard to beat. 2. Flexispy Light on the wayward's iPhone, Blackberry, Windows Mobile, or Symbion phone is AMAZING, if a bit expensive. You can get the content of SMS messages both ways, if it has a GPS (or a pseudo-GPS, like old 2G iPhones) you can see where they have gone during the day, and get complete call history (helpful if their bills are no longer being delivered to your house!). For spouses carrying on affairs via a newer high-tech phone, this does the job very well. The "Pro" version isn't really worth the price right now, as the "remote monitoring" feature tends to crash the phone... **Tip: If your spouse has a Blackberry and keeps it password-protected whenever they don't have it on their person, there's an easy bit of social-engineering you can do to break in. If you fail to enter the correct Blackberry password 10 times in a row, it prompts you if you want to erase all data and reset the phone. Confirm that's what you want to do... now you have an empty Blackberry free of applications. Go to the Flexispy web browsing address on the browser, install the app, delete the web browsing history, and when they restore their data to the phone, Flexispy will still be there. The "social engineering" bit is explaining this to your spouse. You can leave it unexplained, blank, and un-passworded, leaving your spouse to wonder why they have to restore their BB from a backup. Or if forced to 'fess up say that you were concerned about porn on their blackberry, tried to get in, and didn't realize it deleted all their data once you tried the ten different passwords you guessed. Realize this procedure is going to take around 10-15 minutes... so you need some time alone with their phone to get things set up. 3. A GPS in the vehicle is also very, very effective. They are kind of expensive, too, but you can Velcro the GPS to various places in their car. The rotation scheme will be the same as the voice-activated recorder: schedule a time according to when your spouse will be sleeping or otherwise occupied to plan to change the batteries and download the recorder data onto your PC. A great benefit of a GPS vs. a VAR is the variety of places you can put it in a vehicle. Just a few more thoughts... "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MelodyLane #2368083 05/05/10 08:29 AM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	I have not tried this service, nor do I know anyone who has, but this is a national private investigation service that might be useful to someone: Advanced Surveillance Group "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MelodyLane #2368134 05/05/10 09:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,986 P princessmeggy Member
princessmeggy Member P Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,986	Publicdata.com is a great INEXPENSIVE resource for looking up local information on a person (i.e., home ownership, driver's licenses, other licenses, vehicle info including plate number, model, make), criminal history, etc. Widowed 11/10/12 after 35 years of marriage ********************* �In a sense now, I am homeless. For the home, the place of refuge, solitude, love-where my husband lived-no longer exists.� Joyce Carolyn Oates, A Widow's Story

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS princessmeggy #2368594 05/05/10 08:14 PM
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CrushedJim Member C Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 226	If anyone needs guidance with instamapper, let me know. Still working great! Change the changeable, accept the unchangeable and remove yourself from the unacceptable.

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS CrushedJim #2368602 05/05/10 08:19 PM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	Originally Posted by CrushedJim If anyone needs guidance with instamapper, let me know. Still working great! Thanks Jim!! "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MelodyLane #2368623 05/05/10 08:45 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 642 S sickwithworry Member
sickwithworry Member S Joined: May 2008 Posts: 642	Originally Posted by MelodyLane Originally Posted by CrushedJim If anyone needs guidance with instamapper, let me know. Still working great! Thanks Jim!! Ok, I am thankfully out of the spying game on WW's, but i will say that a webcam, very small and strategically placed in a hidden spot can reap wonders. They are cheap and you access them remotely whenever you want. I am now spying on my 16 yr old daughter by placing one in the living room when i go TDY for the Navy to see if she is having parties in the house. It is funny to call and say "put that down and tell those people to get out of my house now!" This can obviously be used in other locations for other reasons. sww

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS sickwithworry #2369218 05/06/10 04:26 PM
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hope_eternal Member H Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 680	Ok, I'm trying to do this by following directions, but I'm stuck at the download part of software. I don't know what to download. BS: 41 WS: 52 Marriage 20 years on 6/9/10 Dday on 4/27/10 Husband moved out 5/12/10 Plan B....5/21/10 DD 15 DS 11 DS 10 DS 7

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS hope_eternal #2369270 05/06/10 06:32 PM
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CrushedJim Member C Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 226	What phone did you buy? There are two ways to load it on the phone.....visit the website specified in the instruction from the phone OR downlowd the install file from the website and connect a USB cable. Which are you doing? Change the changeable, accept the unchangeable and remove yourself from the unacceptable.

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS hope_eternal #2369326 05/06/10 08:37 PM
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hope_eternal Member H Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 680	I need help with this. What's the best way to download? When I do this, it does not give me a zip drive? BS: 41 WS: 52 Marriage 20 years on 6/9/10 Dday on 4/27/10 Husband moved out 5/12/10 Plan B....5/21/10 DD 15 DS 11 DS 10 DS 7

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS hope_eternal #2369465 05/07/10 07:25 AM
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Valeriean Member V Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 71	Hi all, I've got a question about skype. I'm familiar with it's basics but what about spying on a spouse who has skype on his personal computer? I know he has it because he likes to talk to his brother over in Sweden. Based upon my past discoveries, my WH is smart enough to not use his cell phone, house phone, and changed his email passwords. I have no current reason to suspect communication with OW at present, but I've been assured of many things in the past that were lies.

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS Valeriean #2369469 05/07/10 07:29 AM
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MargieLoll Member M Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 249	What about anti-spyware programs and the like? How undetectable are these key loggers? Has anyone installed them on a spouse who is super computer savvy? Does anyone know of phone programs to use on non-Blackberry/iPhone phones? He has a lower tech phone. I'm still trying to figure out the model on it. Thanks Me 31 Him 26 Married 11/30/04 DD11 DD8 DS3 In a big ol mess...

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MargieLoll #2369472 05/07/10 07:34 AM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	Originally Posted by MargieLoll What about anti-spyware programs and the like? How undetectable are these key loggers? Has anyone installed them on a spouse who is super computer savvy? eblaster is usually undetectable, however, when you install it, you should run the anti-spyware program and check for sure. If it comes up, it is real easy to program it to ignore eblaster. "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS Valeriean #2369475 05/07/10 07:35 AM
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas M MelodyLane OP Member
OP MelodyLane Member M Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 92,985 Likes: 1 Texas	Originally Posted by Valeriean Hi all, I've got a question about skype. I'm familiar with it's basics but what about spying on a spouse who has skype on his personal computer? I know he has it because he likes to talk to his brother over in Sweden. Based upon my past discoveries, my WH is smart enough to not use his cell phone, house phone, and changed his email passwords. I have no current reason to suspect communication with OW at present, but I've been assured of many things in the past that were lies. Can you check his call history on Skype? "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MargieLoll #2369487 05/07/10 07:43 AM
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Valeriean Member V Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 71	I suppose that's what I was wondering, if skype kept a history of itself. However, it's on his work/personal laptop that is password-activated.

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS Valeriean #2369536 05/07/10 08:53 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 249 M MargieLoll Member
MargieLoll Member M Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 249	Ok, I'm dealing with H phone which is just like this http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...s/Mobile-Phones/Motorola-Karma-QA1-US-EN It's a square, slider phone. For some reason I cannot find his exact phone on the morotola site when I know it's a motorola. Any suggestions on programs or what I can do to monitor this phone? I don't think the programs/sites that have been suggested already will work. Last edited by MargieLoll; 05/07/10 08:53 AM. Me 31 Him 26 Married 11/30/04 DD11 DD8 DS3 In a big ol mess...

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS hope_eternal #2369592 05/07/10 09:38 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 249 M MargieLoll Member
MargieLoll Member M Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 249	Can you install 2 different loggers on? Is there any hindrance or benefit of this? Me 31 Him 26 Married 11/30/04 DD11 DD8 DS3 In a big ol mess...

Re: Spying 102 - 2010 OPTIONS MargieLoll #2369655 05/07/10 10:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,042 D Drucilla Member
Drucilla Member D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,042	Not exactly High Tech, but one I liked was a BABY MONITOR. Have a WS who locks themselves in the garage or spare room to make calls? Plant a Baby Monitor in that room! You can even leave the house, park around the corner, and walk back to the outside of the house and listen in. You have to watch the volume in case they walk in and hear sounds from the other room, and you need to be w/i about 100 feet of the transmitter or you loose signal, but otherwise it's pretty fool proof.

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