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Originally Posted by Enlightened_Ex
I've simply said that WHEN they do, it's far less likely that the marriage will recover because of the reasons I've cited before.
I agree


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Yes, it does seem that that is true...


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Originally Posted by Gack1
Originally Posted by Enlightened_Ex
I'm not sure 5% is the number, but it wouldn't shock me given what Dr H says about BW being very reluctant to choose divorce.
I'm not sure the exact number, I was really just griping that there is a misconception that BW's far outnumber BH's to the point that most BW's assume all affairs are WH's because that is the BW's perception due to personal experience. When in reality the number of BS's on both sides are almost equal, and the trend is for WW's to eclipse WH's in the near future.

My personal experience would lead me to believe that 95% of all affairs are between married women and single men. This is because out of all the BS's I personally know of, the number of BH's is 95% of the total..
But, I know my perception is off due to my own experience.

I'm just griping, thats all.


I was just referring to this part, I am just saying that I dont assume that all affairs are by the husband because I am a BW, it was even before that...I assume it because I am a woman,I think. And that my personal experience is far different than this...


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Originally Posted by Gack1
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Because as a mother It is just hard for me to fathom that a mother could do this to her family.....
Almost all of the WW's I have personally known are mothers.

The sole exception being my wife, who became a mother due to her affair.

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Do you think men always assume its the husband that cheats or is it just woman that do that?...
Before I became a BS I assumed it was about 50/50. Now due to my experience and paying attention to those of people around me I instinctively believe ALL woman have, will, or are cheating.

And so are some men.

But, I know that is due to my personnel experience tainting my perception of reality and not actually true.

See men assume one way, woman another....


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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
See men assume one way, woman another....
You missunderstand.

Before I was a BS I figured cheating was for the most part 50/50.

I still know that overall it is 50/50, but my perception of my own life experiance tends to try and "Trick me" into beliving it's mostley women cheating.


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Oh, whereas my perception is because I am a woman and I just cant believe that another woman would leave her family.....Yeah, different.

Well I have been thinking and when I was a teen and early twenties I was very attractive....I had a lot of propositions from MM, maybe that tainted me to think that all men cheat....There will always be someone younger and prettier and men will alway go after them if they can....I know thats a misconception, but I think that is what tainted me.


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and then it happened to me...


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Originally Posted by Gack1
Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Because as a mother It is just hard for me to fathom that a mother could do this to her family.....
Almost all of the WW's I have personally known are mothers.

The sole exception being my wife, who became a mother due to her affair.

Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Do you think men always assume its the husband that cheats or is it just woman that do that?...
Before I became a BS I assumed it was about 50/50. Now due to my experience and paying attention to those of people around me I instinctively believe ALL woman have, will, or are cheating.

And so are some men.

But, I know that is due to my personnel experience tainting my perception of reality and not actually true.

Well i certainly have believed it was more the man than the women and not because i am a BW or a woman but because in my experience that is what i have seen. I know one WW and that was my brother's wife. I know of several WH's however, mine, my dad, my other brother, and two of my fellow co-workers husbands just off the top of my head.

And i certainly have never cheated and have no plan on cheating. I have VERY EXTREME EP's and it would very unlikely that i would ever be alone with a member of the opposite sex, so it makes it rather difficult to meet my ENs if i won't even talk to you. Not saying it couldn't happen, it is just very unlikely to happen.

And i think that women do not divorce their husbands over infidelity because it has been happening for so long that no one even thinks anything about it. I mean how many remember the old saying "now, boys will be boys". And it is still that way today, men gawk at attractive women all the time. They fall all over themselves for an attractive women, it is sometimes amusing to watch.

And typically a man has a higher sex drive than a woman and thinks about sex something like once every 7 seconds i do believe is what i have heard. He also wants to cake eat so he would never file for divorce, the wife is the one that usually does because she gets tired of him running around.

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ITA, Still... but the boys are gonna be ma-ad grin


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I know they will smile ..........

But i will just tell mom on them wink ........

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I guess i better run......

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I am not for feared of them (too much anyway grin ).......

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I am not for feared of them (too much anyway grin ).......

Teeheehee..I am.


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Okay, well my thinking is 50/50.

Out of the 5 marriages in my immediate family and WH's, we would get this. BIL and SIL BOTH had an affair. My MIL and FIL both had AFFAIRS. My BIL had an affair on my sister. My Mom had an affair. And my WH is having an affair. These happened in the last 5 years. Even if you go back to my grandparents. My maternal grandfather was the adulterer. My paternal grandmother was the adulterer which resulted in a 32 year affairage.

50/50 in my life experience.

The thing is, I tend to believe that when you INCLUDE EAs(which A LOT of people DON'T) that there are probably A LOT more Women having EAs ALONE than Men. I may be wrong. But that's what I see.

I also never realized how many affair happen where the APs are BOTH married. That is an interesting stat that I didn't know before.


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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Originally Posted by Still_Crazy
I am not for feared of them (too much anyway grin ).......

Teeheehee..I am.

It's okay, i may not be a Texan but i will protect us (or run really fast)........

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"or run really fast" you only have to be faster than Still. Oh GEEZ there are 2 Stills talking to eachother. Hmmmmm that can't be GOOD. wink


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Emotional Affairs, of course...I forgot about those...Most people (outside of us smart MBers) dont even count those as Affairs.....


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Originally Posted by Scotland
Okay, well my thinking is 50/50.

Out of the 5 marriages in my immediate family and WH's, we would get this. BIL and SIL BOTH had an affair. My MIL and FIL both had AFFAIRS. My BIL had an affair on my sister. My Mom had an affair. And my WH is having an affair. These happened in the last 5 years. Even if you go back to my grandparents. My maternal grandfather was the adulterer. My paternal grandmother was the adulterer which resulted in a 32 year affairage.

50/50 in my life experience.

The thing is, I tend to believe that when you INCLUDE EAs(which A LOT of people DON'T) that there are probably A LOT more Women having EAs ALONE than Men. I may be wrong. But that's what I see.

I also never realized how many affair happen where the APs are BOTH married. That is an interesting stat that I didn't know before.

Wow Scottie, that is alot of Affairs going on there whew, how can you keep up?

As you and i both know though those single OP are a lot harder to get rid of because they have no one at home trying to bring them back......

And i don't know about a lot of women having EA's either, at least not in my experience. Most of the women i know feel the same way i do and are uncomfortable around men who are not their husband. None of them go to lunch with men or have men friends.

But as i say that is just my experience

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