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Does anyone know about SIM card readers? They seem to be very cheap (less than $30).

My H has an iphone (not the latest) and a blackberry (which belongs to his company and has some specialist software on it). With both of them, all he has to do is delete emails or texts, and they are gone forever, as far as I know.

He has given me his passwords, and is OK with me looking through them, but without calling every number and checking that they are who they say they are, this does me little good.

With a sim card reader, could I see all deleted texts and emails?

Should I do this openly, with his POJA? Or should I snoop and try and look when he is out, and has left them at home? This would be easier with his blackberry but not impossible with his iphone.

My head says that he is not messing me about, but my stomped-on heart tells me not to believe a word he says...


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Originally Posted by BlueMum
Should I do this openly, with his POJA? Or should I snoop and try and look when he is out, and has left them at home? This would be easier with his blackberry but not impossible with his iphone.

My head says that he is not messing me about, but my stomped-on heart tells me not to believe a word he says...

Bluemum, I don't know about SIM card readers, but I have read some about flexispy and I think it would record all texts and emails depending on what version you got.

And absolutely you should not POJA snooping with him. EVER. He should never know about your snooping techniques, otherwise, he will just circumvent them if he had a notion.


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Thanks for that.

His BB belongs to his employer and has special software, so I can't install anything on it - but it is left in the house over the weekend.

His iphone is his, but obviously he tends to take it with him when he goes out.

I do struggle with the snooping, while demanding O&H from him - it's not in my nature not to be honest myself...


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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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This worked nicely for me. You'll need access to the computer where the iPhone is backed up, not necessarily the phone itself. Also, it's free.

http://riactant.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/iphone-sms-retriever-utility-for-windows/

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Great info...thanks!


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What is the easiest keylogger to download, use, and has customer support by phone. I installed one a while back that was a pay by the month subcription. I never could get it to work. I was shocked that I figured out how to cancel the subscription.
Also the target computer is the same one I use, so It can't show up on her side when she logs in.

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How about anyone eslse on a easy to use keylogger?

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I have checked out the key logger site and it seems pretty easy... my difficulty is going to be getting into a locked mac book undetected to put it on... any suggestions?


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I'm not an apple guy, but here is a link to apple's support article for changing the administrator password: here.

The problem is that it changes the password, it doesn't tell you what it is. That is fairly common behavior across platforms.

Unless you think you have a good shot at catching the macbook unlocked, your better bet would be to install the VAR and GPS in her car.


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Originally Posted by nxs450
What is the easiest keylogger to download, use, and has customer support by phone. I installed one a while back that was a pay by the month subcription. I never could get it to work. I was shocked that I figured out how to cancel the subscription.


nxs, the easiest one I know of is eblaster at spectorpro.com. It runs about $100 but you only have to get on the target computer once. It emails you hourly/daily reports.


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My WH bought a new phone and it arrived on my doorstep. Should I even bother to put a logger on it? I am in Plan D. Not plan B. Even though I know I am an idiot to not be in Plan B. Too many excuses on my part. Advice from a vet would be helpful here.

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DD EA Skank #3 3/11 (occurred in '08)not sure if it was PA
Plan A- presently 9/2/11
Plan D- filed 12/20/11, served 12/24/11, 9/2/11 on hold, 12/1/11 cancelled
1/5/2011 WH tells me he is not 100% sure his relationship with OW would work.
7/21/2011 WH moves back home
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D-Day #1 Aug/2007.
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Thanks I will check it out.

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I am a bit old fashioned, but for court appearances, you need positive proof (a photo) and putting them in compromising situiation with the op.

that is best achieved with a PI. I paid about 500 bucks, and all you need to supply is the 1)photo (a very recent one) of your ws 2)ws contact information (address of their work, their cell numbers, work numbers, list of favorite restaurants, or places they frequent, car (make, model, year, and tag number), any and all information on the op if possible (photo, type of car, their home address).

Within 8 hours I had them coming out of a hotel together (a PHOTOGRAPH...actually several), records from the hotel including the name he registered under (as though he was with me, his wife), photos of his car, her car, their car tags, and an hourly update showing (a photo each hour) time date stamped showing his vehicle and her vehicle were BOTH there all night at the hotel.

this stuff is critical if you're trying to prove without a shadow of a doubt they are cheating. You need the ws in the exact same place as the OP for a period of several hours.

The PI also obtained phone records too. That was about 150 more.

I was armed and loaded going on into court. GA is a fault state, so it was imparitive I had this kind of valid information. You can use the less expensive methods to help determine the WHO of the OP, but you need to prove it without a shadow of a doubt 1)the courts might need it if a D follows and 2)to show the WS you mean business, and to make sure they can't weasel their way out of any exposure and 3)for foggy family and friends who might say you're nuts and that the ema isn't happening.

It's a nice reality tool.


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Originally Posted by nxs450
What is the easiest keylogger to download, use, and has customer support by phone. I installed one a while back that was a pay by the month subcription. I never could get it to work. I was shocked that I figured out how to cancel the subscription.


nxs, the easiest one I know of is eblaster at spectorpro.com. It runs about $100 but you only have to get on the target computer once. It emails you hourly/daily reports.




Do you know if they can remove it using anti spyware programs?


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Juststopit, most don't pick it up but it is smart to run the spyware and anti-virus to make sure. If it does find it you can program it to ignore it.


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7. Am I allowed to install this software on somebody else's computer?

You may only install Spector Pro on a computer that you own. Before you install the software, you must agree to use it only on a computer you own.

8. Can I monitor my spouse with this software?

You should NOT attempt to monitor your spouse, significant other or adult children with any SpectorSoft product without the consent and knowledge of such persons. Doing so may violate local, state or federal laws and you could be subject to civil or criminal penalties.

9. Should I inform my employees or others that they are being monitored?

Yes. The SpectorSoft software license agreement requires that you inform anyone you may monitor with SpectorSoft products.

10. Can I use the information recorded with Spector Pro as evidence in a court of law?

SpectorSoft can not guarantee that you will be able to use the recordings in a court of law. A judge determines the admissibility of evidence on a case by case basis. You should assume that the information recorded would not be permitted as evidence.

Interesting...


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Originally Posted by FadingOut
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Interesting...

What do you find interesting about that, fadingout?


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