Ridiculous.

He is really trying to do a number on you....To make you question yourself...That you are so easily persuaded by outside influences...yeah, really you should only listen to HIM! HA!

Did you consider a SIM card reader? Do you think you have the strength to look at their text history?

Her dad said she put on a show last night when he comforted her about the affair saying daddy its not true. He ask her what about the naked pics. Her eyes got big and said she sent them by mistake. Her father found out she was jumping fence n the back of their house and was meeting up with my WH at school. I will tell u guys more later

Oh Vivi, I have been reading your thread and you are doing great!

Keep it up, and listen to the good advice you are being given here. The vets know what they are talking about!

Stay strong!!

WOW. just WOW. She is very very messed up. Vivi, it is important that you address this situation with your H firmly. No more wasted time with denials. He has to commit to no contact for life and to a program of recovery and to getting out of there or this is hopeless. Set down conditions today.

AT school? As in when she was still in school? As in under age? What the heck!

What kind of job does your WH have? A teacher?

And you are 100% positive none of those children belong to your dh?

Are you SURE she didn't fake paternity testing and gas light you?

1st let me say thank you all for the wonderful advice. The school is just where they meet up. She just turned 21 and when we moved here in 2001 the child went to that school. My WH is now saying I cant believe you would acuse me of something low. You got her dad and family upset with her. She is crying her eyes out over this. I told him she should have thought about he actions at the time. I did nothing but help this girl since i have known her. My WH boss questioned him about the affair and he told hs boss that she was a friend of the family and that at one time stayed with us because her parents kicked her off when she was pregnant with her 3rd child. Totally false her dad never kicked her out. He lied big time to his boss saying she is like our daughter and the kids are like are grandbabies. At one time that was true. I am done with her and the kids

I know its going to take me awhile to get over the kids but it has to be done. My WH told to be fair I should give her time to find another babysitter. I dont owe her anything. He called me Heartless (can you guys believe this?) None of the kids are my WH I actually took her to get the paternity tests on all 3 and saw the paperwork. While I in CA visiting my mom she text him stated that everyone n our neighborhood is calling her a tramp. everyone has seen them around. If he is outside she will stop to talk or use so excuse like can you comb the little girl's hair she only wants you to do it. just dumb stuff. I went into the garage to look for something in his car and I found 2 bottle of Leivtra He gets like 6 pills per prescription I am like omg I ask him about it and he tells its for some other medical problem he has. Thats is not true that med is use for only one thing. I am so tired of all the lies

How do I get a SIM card reader? After the things I seen I could handle it with ease.

I am so PROUD of you, vivi, for taking a stand and establishing this attitude.

You are not going to be abused a second longer.

You will not accept irresponsible, harmful behavior from anyone.

Good for you!!!!!!!!!!

Man oh man. He must be starting to believe his own lies.

Good thing, vivi, that his lies are not going to affect how you handle this situation. Right?

You know the truth. That's what matters.

Stick to your guns. No contact is acceptable between OW and H or you. Period.

Have you thought more about moving? How far away would you move? Sounds like you have family in the area.

You silly person, Levitra can also be used to treat stiffness in the joints. How could you doubt him???

"Do you hear that, boy? She doesn't believe me. She thinks I take this important medication for ~that~ kind of problem, can you believe it? Well boy, you and I know the truth, don't we?"



You're exercising your power for good by not buying into his preposterous lies any more. It's good for you, and good for him, too.

That is Wayward-Speak for "Oh NO! I've lost my free babysitter!"

Viv, I would pick up the phone and call his boss and offer up the evidence. Let him know that there is a conflict of interest here with the OW's BF and your H that he should know about.

And you did the right thing in not agreeing to babysit her kids. The chutzpah of these adulterers is amazing!!

Keep the pressure up, Viv, and don't back down until he ends his affair, ends all contact and you move out of there!

So he admits he is still in contact with this ho? I am really concerned that this is going to continue until you get out of there, Viv. It is rare to see adutlerers this FLAGRANT. They are loud and proud and I predict this is not going away until you are GONE. You will have to MOVE AWAY where she can't find you. She has no shame.

Well done. This is great. Not only have you exposed but you are doing an excellent Plan A. You are looking good, treating him with respect (which is not the way he treated you) but you are also being firm, dignified and determined in your stand to protect yourself and your marriage.
I definitely would go to see WH boss and explain the situation to him. That young man deserves your support and you are right to stand up to injustice when you see it. You have a strong sense of justice.
I'm not sure what the MB stance is on how far you need to move away. Maybe moving to the other side of town would be OK if you have family and friends and don't want to move too far away from them but certainly living in the same street gives your marriage no hope whatsoever. It would also give you daily reminders of the hell you are going through instead to helping you to heal.

You are doing really well. Sorry about the kids but you honestly had no choice.

My feeling is you need to move far enough so WH and OW do not have easy access to each other. Every protection will need to be in place to make it hard to resume the A, even if it means leaving family and friends behind.

In-state or out-of-state just depends on where you are. For example, you can drive for 2 days and still be in Texas, but I can walk 500 feet from my house and be in another state. The lack of ready access is the key component.

If it's possible to accidentally "bump into each other", they will.

Yes It would be best if we moved. He is still textng this woman like crazy. Last he was texting and then went outside I went to the door and open and she was just getting to pull over till she swa me and took off. I looked at him and he said um she was just going to let me see the kids. I smiled and went back n the house hs ph was going crazy. I told him to tell her to stop texting you and calling you. I let her dad know what she did. I am not play this girl anymore. He is like why are you acting so mean to her what about the kids She cant afford daycare and her dad won't keep them all day. How is that my problem? Right now he is getting on my nerves saying I was wrong telling her dad. She said he can't look at her right now. This nice woman didnt do anything to you but help you and kids. Today I am really down.

vivi, I would consider filing a restraining order against her to keep her away. You are going to have to get out of there somehow and I want you to start thinking about moving somewhere now even if you have to leave that house. You will lose your mind if you are faced with the daily drama of an OW in your face.

She is loud and proud and in your face. This makes me wonder if she is not a sociopath. She seems to show no shame at all and is cruel enough to stay in your face.

You should move out and just wait for your H to follow you.

Also keep her dad and sister informed about what she is doing. Maybe they have some influence over her. They seem to see that she is wrong and are not brushing this under the carpet.
Just say to them
'I have been very clear about my request for her to stay away from me, my home and my husband. Last night she came again to my door and is communicating constantly with WH. Please help me.'
I can guarantee that innocent people would not behave as they are behaving and her dad can see that no matter what she says to him.