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Originally Posted by Fred_in_VA
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But I have tasted what friends claimed were good, high-quality (imported) beers, and I couldn't for the life of me tell the difference between them and the cheap domestic ones. They were all equally awful.
The problem is that even imported beers must meet American standards for what passes as "beer." When alcohol content goes to 7% or higher (or thereabouts), Americans no longer consider it "beer" and are forced to classify it as a wine, aperitif, or some such. And import regulations are differentl

Therefore, "import" beers are watered down weak cousins of their continental parents. The only beer I know that even remotely tastes like its European counterpart is Heineken.

Well, I would be more than happy to accept a free trip to Europe so that I can sample all the lovely beers the world has to offer. smile


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Originally Posted by kilted_thrower
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But I have tasted what friends claimed were good, high-quality (imported) beers, and I couldn't for the life of me tell the difference between them and the cheap domestic ones. They were all equally awful.

This is purely for scientific research...
Go get a Guinness, a Dundee's Honeybrown, a Chimay, and ohhhhh...a Fat Tire.

I guarrantee you will absolutely notice a COMPLETELY different taste, feel, and aroma to the beer. And if you don't like em. Welllll....I'll recycle them for you.

Then for fun, you can test those above against a Bud Light and a Millwakees Best.

Sorry, no can do. I have 2 teenaged boys in the house, so I've found that it generally isn't a good idea to keep alcohol around. Besides, I'm poor, and I can definitely think of better things to spend my money on.


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I have visited Andechs, had that beer often and agree it is among the best. German beer = liquid bread. I don't often drink American beer. A good starter drink might be a "radler", beer and lemonade. In the summer, in Germany, we would ride bikes along the river, stop along the way for a "radler" and a streudel. Fun times.

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Originally Posted by Fred_in_VA
I went to college in Europe, where I gained a huge affinity for beer (and wine). Too much so, in fact. But I digress...

European beers make American beers seem what I believe the pee from diabetic cows tastes like. Americans have no appreciation for fine brews. In fact, Germany had a law, the Rhineheitsgebot which was the German "beer purity law" which stated the only ingredients that could be used in the production of beer were water, barley, and hops (yeast has now become the "fourth ingredient").

South of Munich is a monastery, the Cloister Andechs that brews some of the most phenomenal beer in the world. During the Turkish siege of the 1500s, the inhabitants of the surrounding villages took refuge behind its walls and survived by drinking the potent brews, which are loaded with protein, taste and character.

Properly brewed, a beer, lager, ale or pilsner is every bit as much an "adult beverage" as any of the "harder" drinks.

I mean, gin??? Who drinks gin, except alcoholics?

Fred, you have obviously never visited the Northwest where microbrews and wonderful beers are made in the 100's of varieties.

Try some Fat Tire or Drop Top Amber, or any of the Bridgeport beers (made in Portland, OREGON) or Widner beers, made in Washington State. Have a few good breweries here in Walla Walla, WA, wine country supreme, too. You couldn't pay my husband to drink a Bud, OR Coors.

Silly east coasters don't know what a good beer is unless they go to Europe.

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Oh, and I like me a good Tanguerey and tonic too! And I grow my very own Cuban mint for a real Mojito.

Only on rare occasions now though, as I have been released from the evil demon alcohol...

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I wanted to stick to fruity drinks because one or twice I've had a few drops of beer--like when a relative ordered a drink with a cherry in it, and gave me the cherry.

It tasted nasty and that has put me off beer. Hence my desire to mask the taste...stickout


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I don't like beer generally, but I love me some Modelo Negra.

If you don't like the taste of alcohol, don't drink it. I don't like the taste of sweet fruity beverages, so I don't drink them.


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Originally Posted by CWMI
I don't like beer generally, but I love me some Modelo Negra.

It's funny you mention that one. That is the only beer my wife really likes. It has to be in a frozen glass with a ton of salt around the rim and lime debris floating all over in it.


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Originally Posted by kilted_thrower
If I want something higher than 7%, I'll bust out the mead. Speaking of which...I think it's about time to bottle it up.

You make mead? You and I, we need to talk. I have two glass carboys that a friend and I purchased with the intention of making mead. He had made it several times and was going to show me how, but he passed before he could show me. I still have 8 bottles of a braggot he made 15 years ago; it's still good.

My friends from west Texas were very much into brewing beer and mead. I got a starter kit from my mother-in-law a few years ago but haven't had time to try it. One of my friends moved to Houston and would come to up help.

What part of Oklahoma are you in?


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Originally Posted by bitbucket
You make mead? You and I, we need to talk. I have two glass carboys that a friend and I purchased with the intention of making mead. He had made it several times and was going to show me how, but he passed before he could show me. I still have 8 bottles of a braggot he made 15 years ago; it's still good.

My friends from west Texas were very much into brewing beer and mead. I got a starter kit from my mother-in-law a few years ago but haven't had time to try it. One of my friends moved to Houston and would come to up help.

What part of Oklahoma are you in?

I'm in Oklahoma City. Shoot me an email. Anything I cna't help you with, I can get the info from my best friend. He's a throwing buddy and has been brewing mead for over 2 decades. He's so freakin fantastic at it. Tastes like nothing but honey when done right.


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