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I thought this might be a useful thread...I've seen many people suggest deposing their wayward spouse and the WS's affair partner. I was wondering what type of questions are being asked. Thanks

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The truth about your life...

Develop a list of Who, what, where, when and why questions relevant to the facts in your situation.

There are also tons of websites out there that will help you.

For example, I google "deposition questions" and got this:

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So here they are � the Top 10 Killer Deposition Questions:

�Have you ever been arrested?� (And the follow-up: �Have you ever been convicted?�) Opposing counsel may go ballistic on this one, but it is a proper question. Remember, felony convictions and any convictions for fraud, dishonesty or moral turpitude are generally admissible for impeachment.
�Have you ever been deposed before?� I ask this at the beginning of the deposition, as part of the standard admonition, when it sounds like an innocent inquiry related to the ground rules for the depo. But if the answer is �yes,� I always follow up later with questions about the prior deposition(s). I also ask the related questions, �Have you ever testified in court?� and �Have you ever been a plaintiff or a defendant in another lawsuit?� Prior testimony and lawsuits can be a treasure trove of accusations and impeachment.
�Have you ever seen the [plaintiff/defendant/employee] before the events related to this lawsuit?� This question may uncover connections between a supposedly independent witness and the other side.
�Did you meet with the other side�s counsel before this deposition?� Pin down the number of meetings, where they occurred and how long they lasted. This information can help dismantle the claim of independence.
�Have you signed any written statements/made any recorded statements/spoken to any reporters about the events related to this lawsuit?� To this list, you might add: �Have you posted any statements about these events on any internet site?� Of course, you will have conducted a search engine and, perhaps, database query on the witness as part of your preparation for the deposition, so you�ll know if he or she is lying.
�Did you read any witness statements or depositions, listen to any recorded statements, look at any diagrams or photographs, or did somebody else read you any statements before the deposition?� Okay, this is more than one question, but I had to combined them here to meet the 10-question quota imposed by the title of this article.
�Tell me everything you did to get ready for this deposition.� The answer can lead you to what the witness or opponent perceives as his or her weak spots, including areas of which you were unaware. After all, it is only natural to prepare for the hardest questions or topics. Remember to find out the specific documents reviewed, places visited and persons met with by the witness.
�Was anyone else present when you met with your lawyer?� If a third-party was present during the meeting, the witness may have waived the attorney-client privilege.
�How did you find your attorney [doctor/chiropractor/therapist/expert]?� This can lead to interesting prior legal issues, lawsuits or self-interest/improper involvement on the part of opposing counsel.
�Do you have your driver�s license with you?� If so, ask to see it. Take down the personal information and, if appropriate, read it into the record. see: The Top ten killer deposition questions link

Good luck,
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"agree to disagree" = Used when one wants to reject the objective reality of the situation and hopefully replace it with their own.
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abc, my deposition was related to my petition for temporary spousal support and child support. I was questioned a lot about my monthly expenditures--I had to support the estimated monthly living expenses I had put down.

I was questioned specifically about how I arrived at each estimated expense. If you've had to do this or are doing this, do it thoughtfully. For example, my monthly estimated expenses for my car included not only fuel, but also 2 oil changes, 2 tire rotations, a brake job--anything I could think of that would occur during the normal maintenance for the coming year.

I also went back over my monthly expense sheet the day before the deposition so that everything was fresh in my mind. This is critical--don't refer to notes. Rehearse your explanations so that you don't have to search your brain for an answer.

Lawyers also supposedly like to ask you if you have discussed your testimony with your attorney before the deposition. Of course you have--this is why you have an attorney. If you're questioned about what your attorney told you to say, just say, "He told me to tell the truth."

When my WH is deposed, I believe he'll be questioned about the details of the affair--number of affairs (just the one, to my knowledge but we may as well pin him down), who, when, how long, how much has he spent on her, etc. He'll also may be questioned about his relationship with his children since he moved out of our home. I live in a fault state, so we're trying to paint him as the adulterer he is.

I think the questions for his OW will be similar but might also go into her past--has she had an affair before? Why did she pursue a married man? Where does her daughter stay when her married lover is visiting? ETC.

This is based on my limited experience. I hope it helps. smile


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What kind of things would opposing counsel object to? For example If one wanted to get a detailed account of their sexual escapades would that be allowed?

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Originally Posted by abc098
I thought this might be a useful thread...I've seen many people suggest deposing their wayward spouse and the WS's affair partner. I was wondering what type of questions are being asked. Thanks

abc, typically, you would want details of the affair, such as when it started, where it took place, money spent, etc. Your attorney should be able to put together a list of questions that will serve to build up your own case. And I would also throw in some very uncomfortable questions designed to make that worm squirm on the stand. grin


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In some cases, the attorney will subpoena all emails and cell phone records ["discovery"] of the affairees. Has your attorney done that?


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Originally Posted by abc098
What kind of things would opposing counsel object to? For example If one wanted to get a detailed account of their sexual escapades would that be allowed?

Opposing counsel will try to object based on relevance, especially if you life in a no fault state. The bottomline is that the courts view the disintegration of a marriage equally and are really only concerned with the "best interests of the children" as the standard. That actually translates to: Your marriage is over. Divide up your assets and lets setup a parenting plan and visitation schedule that will be best for the kids and keeps you guys out of the courthouse.

That's the bottomline. The courts generally don't care about adultery. Short of proving that she's a bad mom, a deposition is a bit of a waste of money unless you can somehow establish that she's interfering with the relationship with your kids.

You may get some cathartic relief in giving them the 3rd degree with a lawyer, but my experience is that it really is a giant waste of money unless you can catch them lying or admitting to trying to keep you out of the kids lives in some way.

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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
In some cases, the attorney will subpoena all emails and cell phone records ["discovery"] of the affairees. Has your attorney done that?


I did awhile ago but nothing's been done yet..i'll ask him

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Originally Posted by abc098
What kind of things would opposing counsel object to? For example If one wanted to get a detailed account of their sexual escapades would that be allowed?

Opposing counsel will try to object based on relevance, especially if you life in a no fault state. The bottomline is that the courts view the disintegration of a marriage equally and are really only concerned with the "best interests of the children" as the standard. That actually translates to: Your marriage is over. Divide up your assets and lets setup a parenting plan and visitation schedule that will be best for the kids and keeps you guys out of the courthouse.

That's the bottomline. The courts generally don't care about adultery. Short of proving that she's a bad mom, a deposition is a bit of a waste of money unless you can somehow establish that she's interfering with the relationship with your kids.

You may get some cathartic relief in giving them the 3rd degree with a lawyer, but my experience is that it really is a giant waste of money unless you can catch them lying or admitting to trying to keep you out of the kids lives in some way.


I think the point of depositions besides kids and cathartic relief would be to try to gain leverage and possibly improve divorce settlement. I was trying to keep this thread general but more specific to my case I've also filed alienation of affection suit so would there be objections under that scenario? I guess I'm also trying to make it difficult so possibly some of the fog will wear off.

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So am I correct about how depositions work? My attorney would need to subpoena who I want and so he would have to go to a judge to get that subpoena. He would have to have a good reason to want to depose the person. After that a subpoena along with a time/date of the deposition would be sent out. Then if the respondent cannot make that deposition time some new date would be decided. Does my attorney have to do the deposition after the subpoena etc has been sent out? For example could I have him send out subpoenas to multiple people as a "scare" tactic without having to do the actual deposition and then hopefully the STBX would agree to some aspect in the divorce? Hope that made sense

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What is the proof of alienation of affection? Short of keeping you from court ordered visitation time, it's hard to prove. But you can establish it with the right line of questioning.

Focus your efforts more on getting custody. The adultery stuff is minor compared to getting custody and it will be more relevant.

As far as emails in discovery, it's not likely you'll get them but it's possible. I had things I requested in my interrogatories which were objected to with simply stating they it wasn't relevant to the case.


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HTLD --
Do you understand that Alienation of Affection is a different court case than the divorce proceedings?

An alienation of affection suit is brought against the OM/OW for enticing the wayward spouse away from the marriage/family.
Extremely powerful -- and very few states allow for this type of suit.

You are very fortunate ABC. It will definetly add more pressure.

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I got this off of a website

What type of questions may be asked at a deposition? Any questions may be asked at a deposition. Though the deponent�s attorney may object to various question, the deponent must still answer. The judge will later decide if the objection should be sustained and the deponent�s answer stricken from the record. If a deponent refuses to answer a question, then the deposing attorney may ask the judge to order the deponent to answer the question. If the judge so orders, and the deponent still refuses, the deponent may be held in contempt of court.

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abc, I think you are doing the right thing for the right reasons. We have had many court cases actually dropped when the OP was subpoaned along with his/her email and phone records. Even though Texas is a no fault state, adultery very much matters in the divorce settlement. The reason this is good is because it causes huge conflict in the affair and can't help but be a wake up call when the infidels have to sit in an open court giving sworn testimony about their sleazy affair.


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Even states that are no fault seem to have
misappropriation of joint assets
where you can name the other person
as someone that joint funds were spent on and you can ask your lawyer about this.
That way the name of the other person is stated in records for all eternity.

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Also how does it work if you don't know where someone lives but my spouse does..would my attorney just contact her attorney and ask for their addresses?

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My apologies. I was thinking of alienation in terms of the kids. By all means, continue with an AOA.

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ABC098,

Good luck on your court case. I recently found the box of court records where my roommate went through this with her ExWH and Skank Ho.

Their was intense regret on both sides that they did not reconcile, but neither side felt like they could due to the court case. I knew that my friend regreted her decisions before she passed, since her passing I've found reason to believe it was mutual that her ExWH regretted his decisions as well.

*edited to add - that the affair in the above situation didn't last very long after the court case, a few months at most.

I guess what I'm trying to convey, is make sure there's no chance for reconcilliation, because after the fact, no matter what anyone feels, there's no chance until icicles form in hell.

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Originally Posted by HopefulNC
I guess what I'm trying to convey, is make sure there's no chance for reconcilliation, because after the fact, no matter what anyone feels, there's no chance until icicles form in hell.

I absolutely disagree and can point to divorce cases that were dropped because of this tactic. There is always a chance for reconciliation even after the divorce is final. Reconcilation is more likely *IF* a BS plays hardball in court and causes as much conflict as possible in the affair. Injecting reality into the affair damages the affair and that is the job of the BS. The job of the BS is not to cooperate with a destructive spouse. Playing nice in the divorce only serves to enable the affair.

Reconciliation would only be off the table if the spouse were still fogged out and wayward because only a wayward would get allow that to prevent recovery.

If stomping on the affair in court would stop a wayward from reconciling, that is a clear indication the WS is still wayward and wouldn't qualify for reconciliation anyway. A BS is not going to choose to reconcile with a spouse who is still wayward.


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Originally Posted by HopefulNC
Their was intense regret on both sides that they did not reconcile, but neither side felt like they could due to the court case.

Yes, they could actually. And if they were serious, the court case would not have prevented it.


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