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Agreed. Not done at all.

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OW requires your involvement to add fuel to their drama. It's no fun anymore if the wife removes herself! Now they can only feed off each other, and their passion is burning out. WH is probably becoming needy or demanding, because you are not there meeting his needs.
Stay away from OW....do not help her by adding more drama and confrontations! She's probably hoping you will yell at him, then he will contact her again, repeat repeat repeat....

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I'm so glad you are all here and listening to me! It helps so much! My BFF read the email exchange and could not understand that I could keep my composure like that under all that stress. It's like I'm develloping a liar radar. Plan B is my rescue and road to recovery.

Yes, OW 1 admitted WH was not returning her calls etc anymore, so I ever so politely responded to her it was because he was on a weekend trip with OW2. She replied she had already emailed OW2 with all the details of their 'relationship' earlier that day. Must have been a great weekend for her, though I can not confirm he did spent time with OW2.

I'm just working on putting my life on track, I'm not caring about anything they do.

WH tried to call the kids, we are in a cottage, so he has to call the reception of the resort and get put through. He texted me that he they kept on hanging up on him. Like I care. You either keep on trying or give up. Not my problem.

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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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I don't know if he was with OW2, just to clarify that.

Today for the first time WH asked my daughter where the horses were. She and I are both avid riders and she has the cutesy pony. I had somebody pick them up the day we left. I'm sure he noticed.

He was probably hoping for a nice conversation with his daughter, and she was nice, but he did not get to hear what he wanted. She asked whether he could sent her birthday present to the cottage, the next thing I heard her say was I don't think we are coming back. Great start of the work week for him.


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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We have the horses at our house btw.


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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It seems that every afternoon I hit a low, a point where I just want to sit and cry, but because of the girls I can't. I cried once and it upset D5 so much, that I want to protect her from all this.

Afternoons just suck! Mornings I'm fine, evenings I'm ok, afternoons not so much.

Unfortunately, I may have to file for divorce to protect my girls and get the custody settled and have them with me.

I want no part of this wayward person, but I don't know if he'll ever be the man he was. If it will ever be resolved frown


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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O how childish, he's grown me off Skype! So now he can't Skype with his kids anymore!


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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What you should do is find some way to distract yourself. Personally, I try reading AND writing, but you have young children so probably couldn't do much of either.

Try writing, it's very therapeutic and you can always get a career out of it if you work hard enough.


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

I will not spend my life this way.
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Writing this here as I probably should not sent any of the sorts to WH or OW2.

I just finished reading our pre- nuptial. Boy is my mother a wise woman and has she done me favors by insisting on this.

Ok, so WH bought OW2 a $2500 bracelet from Tiffany & co for her birthday. Per our prenuptial he bought that from the money that is jointly ours, plus it says specifically that purchases over $1000 need to be jointly agreed upon, obviously, I was not involved! So since the bracelet was purchased from at least partly my money, and per our prenuptial he had no right to give it to her, I think this is another case of stolen goods. I think I should report this to the authorities, and direct them to where they can find it.

Seems to be a recurring theme here, me reporting stolen jewelry.

Part of me wants to write them this cute little note.

Dear WH, the Tiffany bracelet you purchased for shank ho #2 was technically purchased from assets partly belonging to me. As I've never received the bracelet, upon returning to the US I will report said bracelet as stolen and direct the authorities to the person it inadvertedly was sent.
Your ever loving wife,

Dear shank ho,
The beautiful Tiffany bracelet you received for your birthday was purchased from assets belonging to me, and thus rightfully the bracelet belongs to me. As it is not in my possession i will report in stolen upon my return to the US. Think fondly of me when you look at the bracelet while handing it over to the authorities,
Peace

I'm debating whether it is wise to stir the pot a little more or not.


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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Never warn a wayward of action. That notification may be gratifying but the feeling better be worth $2500, otherwise, you are not wise to indulge in any threats, or promises, until executed. After you have retrieved your property, then you can notify.


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The ? that made recovery possible: "Which lovebuster do I do the most that hurts the worst"?

The statement that signaled my personal recovery and the turning point in our marriage recovery: "I don't need to be married that badly!"

If you're interested in saving your relationship, you'll work on it when it's convenient. If you're committed, you'll accept no excuses.
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You are absolutely right.

And I love your signature line about 'I don't need to be married that badly'. Reading my prenuptial gave me exactly that feeling. I have options!

I want to be with the right man.

Now watch me crumble again tomorrow afternoon!


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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Prenuptial or not, I don't think you have any legal grounds for the police to come and take the necklace and cart OW off to jail.

The best you can probably do is to document all of these expenditures and claim them in the divorce settlement. Money spent on the OW or to advance an affair is still marital property, and you can recoup it in divorce court, even in a no-fault state like mine.

Having a prenupt will certainly strengthen that claim.

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Thanks schtoop! The better informed I am, the more it will benefit me and the girls. I think WH is soooooo wayward, I don't think there is a point of return anymore.

He is and always will be the love of my life.


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

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Sure enough, the afternoon misery has started frown

I miss him so much at these times. And at other times im just fine.

The rollercoaster.

Right now i can just think of any reason for me to return


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

Men must be honest with themselves before they can be honest with others. A man who is not honest with himself presents a hopeless case
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Originally Posted by schtoop
Prenuptial or not, I don't think you have any legal grounds for the police to come and take the necklace and cart OW off to jail.

The best you can probably do is to document all of these expenditures and claim them in the divorce settlement. Money spent on the OW or to advance an affair is still marital property, and you can recoup it in divorce court, even in a no-fault state like mine.

Having a prenupt will certainly strengthen that claim.

schtoop is right.

violation of a pre-nup is a civil matter...NOT a criminal matter.

In divorce...you MAY be able to get it back to the extent you can claim other marital assets to offset expenditures he made in furtherance of an adulterous relationship.

depends on the state and the judge too

Mr. W


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Some thoughts.

I'm really glad I exposed. After the whole email exchange on Friday with OW1, I forwarded it all to WHs mother. OW1 texted me again yesterday that WH had called her angrily to stop contacting me and to never call, text or email him again. My guess is that all the love bank deposits for OW1 are well in the negative. So, my guess is that that is a success.

However, that did not deal with OW2 yet. OW1 also mentioned she had emailed OW2 the complete details of their relationship. So now the wait is for those deposits to evaporate. That relationship has to now self-destruct.

In the mean time I'm enjoying my time at the cottage.


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A man who abandons his wife and children because of his infidelity is no price. I can do better then that, I deserve better then that.

The difficulties and struggles of today are but the price we must pay for the accomplishments and victories of tomorrow

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hold the course
full steam ahead

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