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Glad you guys are having so much fun with this.

I particularly enjoy the attention MrW seems to be giving me personally.

Love all the daytime soap scenarios thrown about here.

@markos; I didnt know what an affairage was and the MB forums treatment of it until much later in my process
@melody; ditto as above, though by the time I did find out I didn't have the impetus/means to inform you directly and I am truly sorry

P.S. I have paid for the advice so you can all rest easy now

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In all seriousness bx, you do need the Harleys. Affairages have much more complex issues than ordinary marriages. I hope you get the help you need.

However try to be more upfront in future. Fear of others reactions is no reason to be dishonest and as you can see you only end up wasting your own time.


What would you do if you were not afraid?

"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.

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Originally Posted by bxhubby
P.S. I have paid for the advice so you can all rest easy now

Does this mean that you are using the Marriage Builders Coaching Center now?


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Originally Posted by bitbucket
Originally Posted by Pepperband
So, if a couple lives overseas, say Saudi Arabia, they can get MB phone counseling???

Final answer from the MB counseling center:

Originally Posted by mail from bitbucket
Hello -

The question came up on the forums: is counseling available outside the US?

Originally Posted by MarriageBuilders counseling center
YES! Counseling is available to people living outside the US.

We have quite a few clients that are overseas. Those clients all either call in to Steve Harley during his coaching times in the mornings: (6:00 am CT, 7:00 am CT, 8:15 am CT, 9:30 am CT, 10:30 am CT and 12:30 pm CT), or Jennifer Harley-Chalmers calls her clients at the number they provide. Jennifer calls her clients because she is located in the Philippines 9 months out of the year, so she is on a totally different time zone schedule. It works out well for her to pick up those clients that can ONLY coach in the evenings since it is HER morning!

Thank you Bit !
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Originally Posted by bxhubby
@markos; I didnt know what an affairage was and the MB forums treatment of it until much later in my process

Somehow you instinctively knew to conceal the information, though.

Anyway, the interesting thing to me is how you feel justified, and your justification is based on a belief that you are entitled to have people help you, even if doing so would violate their convictions.

This entitlement is a character flaw.

One of the best things about Marriage Builders for me has been the uncovering of numerous character flaws in myself and the chance to actually do something about them.

This uncovering wasn't pleasant AT ALL. But I am thrilled with the results.

I learned that I tend to automatically react emotionally when something somebody says threatens to uncover one of my character flaws. I also learned that if I suppress that, control my emotions, keep my mouth shut, and think calmly about the subject for a few days, I get valuable insight into my own character and how to better it, which is slowly transforming me into a person I like much more.

Anyway, you might be feeling pretty emotional right now, but the fact is that you felt extremely entitled to get something at the expense of other people. You might live a happier life if you spend some time thinking about this entitlement issue. Talking with me about it probably won't be productive for you at all, though.

I am happy to hear that you are seeking help from Dr. Harley.


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