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Originally Posted by jaded4now
It doesn't matter that we love each other. It doesn't matter if he is the perfect guy for me.

So, a "perfect guy" is one that doesnt give a rats azz about your H. (or anyone else for that matter) A "perfect guy" is one you have to hide and sneak around with. A "perfect guy" is one that has no problem dating a married woman.

And "Love" puke....what you experienced is not "love"

"perfect for each other" yes, you are both cheaters. What a great and wonderful life that will be! two cheaters together, married, always looking over their shoulder. Have you heard the saying " he cheated with me, he will cheat on me"

There is a great post here somewhere about a FWW that married her OW, and how much "fun" it really is.

I will try to find it. I'm not too comp savvy with that sort of thing, so if anyone else has it....






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Originally Posted by jaded4now
He works at a store I use to go to, however he is changing jobs. His new job will be computer programing so he will travel around to different store locations in a district.

Our main form of contact was texting and talking on the phone.

I have tried to break it off with him several times, but it has not lasted. It feels like torture tryin to stay away from him. I miss talking to him.I told him that I wanted to work on my marriage and he said he understands and doesn't want to be in the way. In the past when we have tried NC I am always the one that reached out. So he is not the one making the moves.. . . which is good. I told him yesterday that I love my H and that I will have NC with him. I removed his phone number from my phone.

Another thing in my favor is that we are getting ready to move an hour away from where he lives. We are in the process of selling our house. We are hoping to move within the next few weeks.

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This is not the one I was looking for, but it's good too.

I'm still looking....

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"Instant connection," huh??? ( puking smiley )

I thought my POSOM (piece of [censored] om)- an old HS boyfriend - was my "soulmate." That we were "connected." Puh-leeze. He was after one thing - the same thing your OM was after, coincidentally - to get laid.

You want to know what my life is like now? My H left me. I spend weekends alone in a huge empty house. Our daughters don't get to see their daddy every day. I miss curling up against my H every night. I miss his cooking. I miss his smile. My H sometimes can't even stand to look at me because of what I did. And I live with the knowledge that POSOM was nothing compared to my H, yet I threw it all away. For nothing.

And I have to look at myself in the mirror every morning.

Wulffpack_girl has a great story. Sad, but you may relate


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Originally Posted by jaded4now
I miss OM, I love him and he was there when my H was not due to drugs.


So during the time when your husband needed you the most this scumbag took advantage of the pain to con you into his bed.

What a stand up guy.



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Originally Posted by jaded4now
So here I am trying to make it through day 1. Can anyone share their story of getting through the fog? How long did it take? What helped to stay in NC?


I am at work right now. Can get back later.

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found it! I impress myself sometimes! now I just need to learn to do the link thing.

I know it's long, but it's worth the read. This womans OM was married, but he just like your OM thought it was ok to steal another mans wife.

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My perspective is from that of the OW who became the new wife. I hope this helps someone.

You will get to be responsible for destroying the life of another woman. You will get to be responsible for destroying the lives of all children involved. No, children are not resilient. They are sponges and take in everything around them whether they are capable of processing it or not. And when they are not able to process their world being shattered and all the conflicting messages about right and wrong, you will get to deal with all their issues and mistakes and anger as they grow up. You will have to know all the while that whatever is happening is a direct result of your selfishness. If the child fails at school, can�t control their anger, becomes promiscuous, falls into addictions, can�t maintain good relationships of their own you get to know in the back of your mind and deep in your soul that you are responsible for what molded that child. Whether you admit it or not, you WILL know. You will not be able to fix this; it will not work out, smooth over, or ever be okay. Even if you look like the Cleavers on the surface it is under there bubbling and will come out. Don�t think you are special and you will escape this result.

Maybe right now you are in a place where you are in deep denial about the children and you don�t give a crap about the BW. Let me appeal to your sense of selfishness then and tell you what you personally are going to suffer in the years to come�

You are marrying a cheater. Someone who didn�t like what they had at home so they went looking for something better. Or maybe you offered him something better? It doesn�t really matter who started it, who lied more, it doesn�t even really matter if you were tricked into a relationship not knowing he was married at first. Your consequences will be the same. You now have a spouse who gave up one family and chose you and yours. Feels great right? Think again. How long do you think it will take before you stop feeling like a prize?

The minute things go wrong, and face it, in all marriages there are these times, he is going to be looking at you and wondering if you were worth it. And you will feel it. Even if he doesn�t say it right out. He is going to realize that this marriage requires just as much work as the old one did and you are not nearly as perfect in real life as he thought you were and he is going to be angry for what he has sacrificed for you. Now you get to be insecure and feel like you are always fighting to be worth it to him.

You are going to be labeled as the [censored] for the entire rest of your life. No matter what changes or personal revelations you come to, you will be the [censored] that wrecked a home and stole a husband. There will be innumerable family conflicts over this. You are likely to have his kids hating your guts forever. This means that every holiday, school concert, soccer game, big family event like graduations and weddings, and grandkids (yes, it will last that far and long) will be sources of conflict instead of happy times.

You will probably not be invited to a lot of things that your spouse should be attending with his children. You may show up anyway, asserting your position as the new wife. But it will be a conflict. You spouse will have to over and over choose between you and his original family. He is going to resent you for this. You are going to get so tired of constantly being the center of conflict and so tired of all the hate directed at you and no one is going to sympathize with you. When you do impose yourself where the BW and her children and extended family and friends are you will feel the scarlet letter that you wear burning in your chest no matter how high you try to hold your head. I promise you, you will. You and your stolen spouse will fight over this more than you can imagine in the years to come.


And guess what?! When he starts to pull away from you and works late more, or isn�t insatiable in bed with you anymore, or cuts his hair a new way you are going to be terrified. You are going to be terrified because you know exactly what he might be doing next. You are going to be suspicious probably before he actually even does anything because you already know he is untrustworthy.


Chances are he is going to cheat again too. Except this time on you. Now, you get to feel the pain of being a BW doubled by the pain of realizing exactly what you did to someone else. The guilt and shame on top of your already devastating pain from being cheated on will be unbearable. Now listen to this closely NO ONE IS GOING TO CARE!! You are going to hear and know that you should have known better and have the old adages about cheaters thrown in your face over and over. You will not be able to come somewhere like these boards for support because they are going to crucify you! You will be all alone with your pain and your heartache with no one to blame but yourself.


Do not think you are special. DO NOT THINK IT WON�THAPPEN TO YOU!!!!!!!!!! The stats are overwhelmingly high. No one gets married thinking that their spouse will cheat. No one. I promise you are not different or better somehow.


Occasionally an affair partner will grow a conscience and want to be a good person and here is what happens�


Now, let�s say that you make changes in your heart and your life. Let say you find God or in whatever way it comes to you, you realize that you have done something horrendous. Okay, now you actually do care about those kids and that BW. Well too bad. You can�t fix it. Yes, God will forgive you if you repent. Not many others will. And you will have one heck of a time trying to forgive yourself. You will feel sick and ashamed all the time. You will cry many bitter tears.


You will not be able to look at your spouse and feel the same way you once did. All of your memories of when you first met, your first kiss, the early days of your relationship will be tainted. All of those memories that are supposed to be sweet will be sour. You will not be able to enjoy them because you know that whole time it was wrong, wrong, wrong! What are you left with? Not much.


You are going to try to offer apologies, you are going to try to figure out what you can possibly do to make amends and there are going to be no easy answers. You will be told by many that you can�t repent and stay married. You will be told by just as many that if God has forgiven you that another divorce would be just another sin. You will make yourself crazy over this because you want to do the right thing for once in your life and you have put yourself in a situation where it is impossible to know what that it.

Also, if you are one of the few who have this attack of conscience at some point down the road, you are still going to be dealing with all the same stuff above that the unremorseful affair partner is dealing with except it�s probably going to hurt you even more because you now genuinely care. Too bad no one will think you are sincere or trust your words. Why should they, remember what you did?? Of course you do, now go cry some more as if it will help.


There are no time machines people!! You are making a mess bigger than you can ever clean up!!


There is really a lot more I could say about how this is going to play out but this is already getting very long.


Like I said, this is from my perspective but just change the pronouns and it is the same for anyone entering into an adulterous relationship. Man or woman, whether you are the WW, WH, AP, it�s going to end in ruin.


You have been warned.


And if anyone out there is currently involved in waywardness and wants to ask me something, fire away! I will answer any and everything asked if it will get you to stop what you are doing and reconcile your family before it is too late.


Unfortunately if you are already married to your AP don�t bother asking me. I can�t help you because I cannot help myself. I live in the ruins of my own creation. You like me should have seen the light sooner. Sorry.


To the BS out there who may read this, I can only hope that knowing that your spouse is not going to be happy and their AP is not going to be happy helps you feel a little bit vindicated. I promise you that even if they look like the picture of happiness on the outside they are not. They have a cancer eating their souls. You can have a better life. They won�t.


NewCreation2011

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How does this apply to her first post and questions?

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Originally Posted by nesre
Hey Jaded

Welcome to MB's.

Really take time to sort this out since it appears some of the posters to you want to just jump on without reading.

Many are hurt betrayed.

I'm reading. And true, there are many BS's here.


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Look at the registration date and number of posts before deciding if the advice is pertanant.

Many with more experience than I will be along.

You don't have to respond to Bull S that is just thrown at you.

Bull S?? I aplogize, I thought it was the truth. Just trying to shine a little light into the fog.

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Maybe the POSTERS could respond to the original question in your ORIGINAL post.

nESRE

I thought we were doing that.

We, BS's DO have a different outlook on the sit than a WS. If you would like responses from ONLY FWS's just say so. I have no problem with that. Though you will get a "one sided" view.

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She has been given an answer to the question in the OP. Stop defending the OM and see him for who he really is. That will go a long way in successfully navigating out of the fog.

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she made the comment they were "perfect for each other" and "so in love"

So did the WW in the post.

If she has any fantasy of taking it further..

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Originally Posted by nesre
Hey Jaded

Welcome to MB's.

Really take time to sort this out since it appears some of the posters to you want to just jump on without reading.

Many are hurt betrayed.

Look at the registration date and number of posts before deciding if the advice is pertanant.

Many with more experience than I will be along.

You don't have to respond to Bull S that is just thrown at you.

Maybe the POSTERS could respond to the original question in your ORIGINAL post.

nESRE


If you have problems with what others are posted take it to the moderators.

All you are doing here is giving the fogged out OP more reasons to hold on to her false idea her AP is a "good guy" and "loved" her.

Reality is what she needs.



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How do you get through the withdrawal? It's simple, but takes mental stamina. 1) do not talk to him. The no contact letter would make it clear to you, OM, and your husband that the affair is dead. 2) do not look him up on the net. No momentos should be kept. 3) every time you think of OM- STOP! Think of something else. 4) transparency with your husband: where you are, what you are doing. 5) extraordinary precautions - tell your work place you need a new number. Make the decision, stick to it, and stick it out. Every time you feel you want to reach out to OM, don't. Just don't. If you stick to it, you'll be better in a month. Then, if you feel like reaching out to OM after a month, don't. It's just a new habit to practice, and pretty soon it'll be effortless to not break NC. During this time, start doing your UA time with your husband.


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Thank you all for your posts. There is a saying in Naranon "Take what you want and leave the rest" I think that applies well i all areas of life.

I don't feel that talking about the OM is really beneficial to me. It only makes me think of him more and that is NOT what I am trying to do here. I don't feel that it really matters what I feel about OM.

What I feel and what I feel that matters is my marriage and how to get it back!

Thank you lifetimelearner! This is what I was looking for. Real solid ways that I can apply to my situation. When i am feeling weak and I am thinking about OM it helps to come here and read and reread these posts.


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Jaded4now

A couple of questions

How old are you and your H?

You said you were M'd and then D'd when your H left for OW. How about H? Is this his first M?

Is he actively working a program of recovery for his drug addiction?

Is he on board with MB's in any way?

Do you have children together?

Do you have any of Dr H's books?

Can you explain how it felt to you when you were a BS?

Edited to add:

Have you read back through all your previous posts here since 2005?

nESRE

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Some posters may come across as harsh. No one here wants your marriage to fail, on the contrary we are happy that you have sought out help and are trying to recover. Recovery can be done. MB has a great plan, that can work if you follow it.

On another note, and I speak strictly for myself as a BS. The words you say regarding how great the OM is, strikes a nerve. Those words may do the same for other BS's as well, so don't be surprised. Don't bail out becuase it's difficult to hear the truth. Your words are as we say here "fog talk". You asked for help getting out of the fog. We want to help.

I think it's unfair to judge a persons post based on their "number of posts" Us lower ranking posters may not be as eloquent in our advice, but I do believe we have something to offer. if the post follows the MB plan please consider it. The vets here are awesome, I learn from them daily. They will guide you right, and make any corrections needed.

I wish you the best!


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Lgtex, I think that's a really good post from a NewCreation, but I don't think it applies here.

Good job finding it, though! smile


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Go it, thanks MB. My thought process does not always go in the same directionas most...

Have a great Holdiday!

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To All

I apologize for the post I wrote yesterday concerning looking at the registration date and number of posts.

The post was disrespectful to other members and I apologize.

In my experience here I have seen excellant posts from many regardless of the registration date / # of posts information.

I went back and removed the post.

This was a case of me breaking my own rule I have for myself concerning my posting.

Again I apologize for offending any of the posters.

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Originally Posted by jaded4now
I don't feel that talking about the OM is really beneficial to me. It only makes me think of him more and that is NOT what I am trying to do here. I don't feel that it really matters what I feel about OM.

Jaded,
It most certainly does matter.

In the fog you will continue to pine away for this "lover" of yours.

One of the biggest steps of recovery is reality. Reality in seeing that your AP was a scumbag, sexual predator who took advantage of you to meet his sexual desires.


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