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I would go broke if it fixed my marriage, but you're right, I don't think it's the time to call the coaching center.


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Dr. Harley has a great plan for dividing up chores. It's in HNHN, HNHNFP, and on this website.


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Chores is the easy part. Convincing her to come home is the hard part.


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Offer to help with her chores at the house and apartment as she needs.

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Originally Posted by reading
Offer to help with her chores at the house and apartment as she needs.
Doormat Alert! Careful with this one. You don't want to make it so cushy that she doesn't NEED to come home.


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Yeah, I don't think I'd be offering to clean her apartment as it somehow validates or makes it ok for her to have one to begin with.

GJM, no woman is going to fall in love with you for doing the dishes. Tackling the "I don't feel appreciated" angle may offer more bang-for-the-buck, but it's hard to do when she isn't in the home. As mentioned on the site, you want to go after those more important ENs.


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LOL. I didn't mean clean her apartment.
But show her you are willing to lend a hand and be a team mate on things like offering to take out her garbage while dropping by her place, maybe asking if she needs anything from the market as you are coming that way, take her a fresh pineapple or a simple bouquet of flowers to look at, etc.








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Originally Posted by reading
LOL. I didn't mean clean her apartment.
But show her you are willing to lend a hand and be a team mate on things like offering to take out her garbage while dropping by her place, maybe asking if she needs anything from the market as you are coming that way, take her a fresh pineapple or a simple bouquet of flowers to look at, etc.
That's confusing, then, because what you said sounded much different:
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Offer to help with her chores at the house and apartment as she needs.
She needs a realistic view of what her life will actually be like if she chooses life without GJM. He shouldn't be taking out her trash when he takes the kids over to visit.


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True. I was contradictory and it probably isn't a good idea to help out at the apartment. I have reconsidered my input.

Only offer to work on chores at the family home.







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Yeah I wasn't going to offer to help out at her apartment. My house is 2499 sqft and takes me a while just to clean it. I appreciate the thought though. I'm just trying to keep the distance at a minimum. That's what worries me the most.


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Hurting today. Maybe I'm just tired.


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It is up and down for a long while, just keep yourself busy being the best Dad and man you can be........
What do you have planned for the weekend?
Do you have any home improvements you could keep yourself busy with?
Patience is the hardest thing, we have to learn to be better at it........


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Originally Posted by GJM
Hurting today. Maybe I'm just tired.

Hang in there buddy. Make sure you get sleep. It is one of your greatest allies right now.


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Saturday I'm going to take the kids fishing. Then that evening DS11 has his football banquet. I'm going to try to get to church on Sunday. I also need to do some grocery shopping. Should be a busy weekend.

I'll try to rest as I can. I get nervous when WW doesn't have the kids. I know I shouldn't worry, but I feel like the distance grows when she doesn't have them. When she does, we spend a lot of time together.


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Originally Posted by GJM
Saturday I'm going to take the kids fishing. Then that evening DS11 has his football banquet. I'm going to try to get to church on Sunday. I also need to do some grocery shopping. Should be a busy weekend.

I'll try to rest as I can. I get nervous when WW doesn't have the kids. I know I shouldn't worry, but I feel like the distance grows when she doesn't have them. When she does, we spend a lot of time together.

Understandable. Don't let the weekend and what might happen trigger you. focus on the kids and you.


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I hate these ruts I get into. I'll try not to let triggers affect me.


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What specifically triggered you today?

Write it down. Then cross it out. Whatever poison it has today will be reduced tomorrow.

As I became a serious sports official, I decided my goal was to make every mistake ONCE. When I was struggling with triggers, I forced myself to let each trigger only hurt me ONCE. Eventually I stopped making mistakes; eventually I ran out of triggers.

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I don't know if you listen to loud screaming types of music, but I know that that type of thing helped me tremendously when I was in a downswing.

Staying as busy as you can is very helpful because it's those down times when you are able to think, and thinking can be the enemy right now.


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Originally Posted by NeverGuessed
What specifically triggered you today?

Write it down. Then cross it out. Whatever poison it has today will be reduced tomorrow.

As I became a serious sports official, I decided my goal was to make every mistake ONCE. When I was struggling with triggers, I forced myself to let each trigger only hurt me ONCE. Eventually I stopped making mistakes; eventually I ran out of triggers.

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Originally Posted by GJM
Hurting today. Maybe I'm just tired.

I know that for me at least, I get super reactive whenever I don't get enough rest. It is like every emotion gets amplified. I really need to check myself and keep things from spiraling. I don't know about you but sleep sometimes seems impossible. I will go to bed exhausted and then wake up 3 hours before my alarm, wide awake. Hang in there.

I have been actively following your thread by the way. I am seeing many similarities in my situation and yours. Best!


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