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Hi Pepperband, I can't count how many different posts of yours I've read, but I've seen several in which you recommended a book to someone. You recommended Buyers, Renters & Freeloaders to me, and I love it, thanks. I saw an earlier post in this thread in which you mentioned Passionate Marriage and Wild At Heart, both of which I have but haven't read yet.

Not that I need more books to read right now, but if/when you have some time, would you mind posting a sort of "best of" from your library? I'd like to see what other books you recommend for learning about relationships. Thanks!

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I regret only that more of my testimony is on another thread elsewhere...

Not exactly something I care to revisit. Hope what is here is sufficient.


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Originally Posted by Kalahari
I deliberately do not name this SF because this is not fulfillment � fulfillment is the met of the physical and emotional need of SF. There is no way that this prostitute can fulfill the emotional need of SF.

And let be frank � the physical fulfillment last only a day or two but the emotional fulfillment of SF last a lifetime.

This inability to satisfy the emotional part of SF make them rotten lovers. Without the emotional part of SF this is nothing more than self satisfaction of visiting a prostitute. The outcome is the same. You are still left empty after such a visit.

This post from way back, speaks volumes...

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A good clip about porn.
Radio clip about porn
Segment #2


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Blended Family with 7 kids between us
Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



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Dr. Harley said something very similar to this today on Marriage Builders Radio. He says that porn makes men lazy lovers, and explains why!

Originally Posted by Pepperband
Men who go to prostitutes and/or view porn to get themselves off!

*No man learned how to give a real woman pleasure from a hooker/porn.

*Men who visit hookers/porn don't 'go there' intending to give a woman pleasure.

*Men who pay for sex have learned dishonesty during the sex act.

*Men who go to hookers/porn do not learn how to kiss properly.

*Hookers/porn do not require a man learn tender foreplay.

*Hookers/porn requires no intimacy.

*Men who go to hookers/porn are self-focused.

*Men who go to hookers/porn are all about the ending, not the process.

*Men who go to hookers/porn do not make love. They ejaculate.

*Men who go to hookers/porn do not know how to make soulful eye contact during lovemaking.

*Men who go to hookers/porn have unrealistic expectations that their wife should look like & perform as if she was a hooker/porn star.

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This, and much more, make them LOUSY in bed.

Men who go to hookers/porn learn to screw, not to make love.


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