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Hi MM,
I've heard a lot about you and I'm hoping to have the same success story as you some day. Some people have told me my situation is similar to what you went through. I'm a Marine and a ton of things are going on at the same time, but you've given me hope even though we don't know each other. Hey, its weird that we just posted to each other's posts at the same time! Yes, from what I have read, you are very close to what I have been through. Kinda deja vu for me! I'll keep up with your thread to see where you are at and headed. Thank you, your timing is perfect. Sorry about the deja vu. No worries.
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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Good to see you, my friend.
Is the 19 y/o riding a baseball scholarship?
Mr. W
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Mortarman, welcome back to Marriage Builders! I have read some of your old posts. Right now I'm looking at your new ones, and I just saw this: Lastly, stop giving away the store. You want what God wants? Then NO sex before marriage. And no living together before marriage. If he is the right one, he will want the same. Yay! Thank you! Need more people around here saying this! I have a link to an interesting radio show where Dr. Harley discusses premarital sex, specifically as a way of meeting emotional needs. A lot of people seem to jump straight from "SF is a typical man's #1 need" to "in order to fall in love together while dating, there should be lots of SF." But Dr. Harley says that's a wrong conclusion: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/radio_program/play_segment.cfm?sid=940He tells a single girl to stop putting out, that won't make her boyfriend fall in love with her!
If you are serious about saving your marriage, you can't get it all on this forum. You've got to listen to the Marriage Builders Radio show, every day. Install the app! Married to my radiant trophy wife, Prisca, 19 years. Father of 8. Attended Marriage Builders weekend in May 2010 If your wife is not on board with MB, some of my posts to other men might help you.
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Good to see you, my friend.
Is the 19 y/o riding a baseball scholarship?
Mr. W Hey, thanks for the text. I will be in touch shortly with you (offline!). And yes, he is a sophomore down in Tennessee. We have current interest from the NY Mets, Washington Nationals, Red Sox, and Blue Jays already. He also will be pitching in Cape Cod this summer. So, he is making a great run so far! Oh, and my 14 year old is even better than his older brother at 14. Almost at 80 mph on his fastball at 14~
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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Mortarman, welcome back to Marriage Builders! I have read some of your old posts. Right now I'm looking at your new ones, and I just saw this: Lastly, stop giving away the store. You want what God wants? Then NO sex before marriage. And no living together before marriage. If he is the right one, he will want the same. Yay! Thank you! Need more people around here saying this! I have a link to an interesting radio show where Dr. Harley discusses premarital sex, specifically as a way of meeting emotional needs. A lot of people seem to jump straight from "SF is a typical man's #1 need" to "in order to fall in love together while dating, there should be lots of SF." But Dr. Harley says that's a wrong conclusion: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/radio_program/play_segment.cfm?sid=940He tells a single girl to stop putting out, that won't make her boyfriend fall in love with her! All true, Markos. I actually think all the pre-marital stuff makes things harder later...and much easier for affairs.
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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Good to see you, my friend.
Is the 19 y/o riding a baseball scholarship?
Mr. W Hey, thanks for the text. I will be in touch shortly with you (offline!). And yes, he is a sophomore down in Tennessee. We have current interest from the NY Mets, Washington Nationals, Red Sox, and Blue Jays already. He also will be pitching in Cape Cod this summer. So, he is making a great run so far! Oh, and my 14 year old is even better than his older brother at 14. Almost at 80 mph on his fastball at 14~ No matter where life takes you...if any one of your kids EVER pitchs or plays at Comerica Park in Detroit I've got 3rd row partial season tickets right behind home plate....WE are going to that game. Heck...if they play minor league ball I'll make the 1 hour trip to Toledo to see them play the AAA Mud Hens anytime. Mr. Wondering
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Its a date, Mr. Wondering!!
A lot of people have said "hey, Dad...if he makes it, you should get a great stipend for helping him get there."
My response? "None of the money he gets is mine. He earned it. Dad has his own money! But, as Dad and for all of the years of hauling his butt around...I demand one thing. And that is two tickets to ANY game I want to come to. And they had better be good seats!"
Anyway, a buddy of his that went to high school with him just got drafted by the Tigers this last Spring (he is two years older than my son). So, who knows???
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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He isn't before my time. I guess that makes me old. 
A smooth sea never made a skilled mariner.
~ English proverb Neak's Story
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He isn't before my time. I guess that makes me old. Makes us both old! This whole thing made me much older also!
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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Hello MM. Nice to "meet" you.
I am so glad you are here to help guide some of these BHs. It's a hard road, and they need whatever guidance they can get.
Also, your posts about Plan B helped me, and I have been in it for 2+ years already. Thank you.
BW(Me)aka Scotty:37 DSx2: 10,12 DDAY2(PA)Nov27/09 Plan B Dec18/09 Personal R in works Scotty's THING  Newly Betrayed click herePraying for walls and doors. Thanx MM “Surviving is important. Thriving is elegant.” ? Maya Angelou PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION THANK YOU
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Hello MM. Nice to "meet" you.
I am so glad you are here to help guide some of these BHs. It's a hard road, and they need whatever guidance they can get.
Also, your posts about Plan B helped me, and I have been in it for 2+ years already. Thank you. Nice to meet you!!! I need to check out your story....
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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I need to check out your story. It's a LONG one, but feel free. 
BW(Me)aka Scotty:37 DSx2: 10,12 DDAY2(PA)Nov27/09 Plan B Dec18/09 Personal R in works Scotty's THING Newly Betrayed click herePraying for walls and doors. Thanx MM “Surviving is important. Thriving is elegant.” ? Maya Angelou PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION THANK YOU
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Hey Dude!
Just had to stop by and say hello!!!! You are a legend here! Good to see you back....
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Hey Dude!
Just had to stop by and say hello!!!! You are a legend here! Good to see you back....
BB So are you, BB! Good to see you are still hanging around. Hope things are well with you!
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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Mortarman, welcome back to the good fight; sadly, there is much to do. I just read your guidance to "ascending". Excellent stuff, sir!
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Mortarman, welcome back to the good fight; sadly, there is much to do. I just read your guidance to "ascending". Excellent stuff, sir! Thanks NG. I missed it, actually. And on the ascending issue, I have a huge motivation to strangle military members in adultery. I want to inflict pain on every one of them. They have no honor! As an IG, I dealt with countless of these. Too many... But, being in the position I was, I was able to make things right. It is the way all of our society should be.
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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Thanks NG. I missed it, actually. And on the ascending issue, I have a huge motivation to strangle military members in adultery. I want to inflict pain on every one of them. They have no honor!
As an IG, I dealt with countless of these. Too many...
But, being in the position I was, I was able to make things right. It is the way all of our society should be. I'll tell you, I wish I had known you 3.5 years ago. My wife was having an A with a Marine, and i did eventually expose, but it wasn't easy. his command made it hard. I actually threatened to put up a billboard if they didn't discipline him. It would've read: "does the USMC know justice? OM doesn't... This Marine has been sleeping with my wife" Seriously. Thankfully they gave him brig time and i didn't have to spend the money, but they sure made it hard on me. CV
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Mortarman, Dr Harley has been working with military chaplains on the subject of adultery and discusses it quite often on his radio show. He has contacted the military himself about a couple of affairs.
Can you do me a huge favor and make a post on my Exposure 101 thread [in my signature link] about how to expose an affair with a military person? I would be most grateful.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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It has been an interesting journey. In some ways, I continue to fight some of the same demons. In others, I am light years from where things were. It's great to have you back posting. I kind of anticipated just a drive by but to see you contributing again warms my heart. That being said, the little worrier in me worries that you're back and conflict avoiding something bigger that's nagging you about your relationship with Mrs. Mortarman. What are these "same demons" you speak of??? With all those kids are you still working the MB program...is your marriage a marriage of extraordinary care??? How's her health holding up???? You started a thread about multiple affairs....do you smell/suspect there could be another fox in the hen house???? Is she taking risks with her boundaries that are making you uncomfortable??? While you worry about everyone else, I worry about YOU...you've been through enough. Hope my worry is for naught. Mr. Wondering
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Great questions. And thanks for looking out for me.
I will have the first Mortarman update up later tonight. Will be a long one, since I was offline for so long.
Standing in His PresenceFBS (me) (48) FWW (41) Married April 1993... 4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B)) Blessed by God more than I deserve "If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"Link: The Roles of Husbands and Wives
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