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Rainy, what you are experiencing is the empowering nature of exposure. Exposure is JUSTICE!

When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers. Proverbs 21:15


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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I'm torn, rainy.

I love seeing you kick [censored], but you are veering into Plan FU.

The website is a great idea, but it can't replace the meaningful one on one contact when people don't know what to believe.

On the other hand she's such a skank,there are lots of people who need to know so I'm torn.

I just think exposure has been so long overdue that the power is now intoxicating. The site prob looks a bit sensationalist to others, so proceed with care.


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This is EXPOSURE. NOT Plan F/U. This is no different than the Harleys advice to take out a billboard or picket a place of business. This is exposure, folks; a GOOD thing.

Originally Posted by Dr Bill Harley
As you already know, I�m a strong advocate of honesty and openness in marriage. I call it transparency�letting your spouse know everything about you, especially your faults. But should that level of openness carry into the public arena? I believe that it should in cases of extreme irresponsibility, and that certainly includes infidelity. When you have done something very hurtful to someone else, others -- especially those who care for you the most -- should know about it. Such exposure helps prevent a recurrence of the offense. Your closest friends and relatives will be keeping an eye on you�holding you accountable.
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It is a collection of evidence. If there is anything wrong, it is with the TRUTH, not with the fact that Rainy posted it.

If she put up a website with his bowling trophies and awards there would be no objection. In other words, the issue is not with the website but with the AFFAIR.

Keep in mind that exposure is a GOOD THING, not a bad thing. This is GOOD for the affairees, their victims and everyone around them.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Thanks, Melody. People have still messaged me on Facebook, and I have responded to all of them, so they can reach me if they want to. Only one was scathing and horrible, which says more about her than me - she was a close friend of rodent's. A couple questioned a couple things or said sorry, but I don't want to be involved. I responded pleasantly to everyone - even the witch. 2 people initially told me I wasn't being Christian and asked me questions. After I responded, both apologized, and expressed remorse and support. One said his father had done this to their family, the other said his wife had done it to him - maybe it hit too close to home at first, but they both ended up giving me some good advice and encouragement.

The other messages (not a lot, but a few sent them) were kind, sweet, shocked, horrified, offered to help in any way, offered prayers and support, etc. Except her family, who all basically said, "Hit her harder. Don't you have any porn pictures lying around? Her children have suffered long enough. She is sick, and needs help."

This woman, and this affair, have thrived on a double life. I couldn't just send a sweet message out at this point. She is a gifted liar/deceiver/manipulator. Even with this, she tried to twist it to make me look like the horrible person, and her this poor, sweet victim.

I posted my exposure letter here for approval before I sent it.

I have clearly done more damage than I expected. pinoke called today, in spite of protective order. Didn't answer. He withheld CS again. (I'm sure he thought I'd go running to him for that today; I didn't). He told IM that if I take down the website, take back all my slanderous claims, remove the PO, and I can't remember what else, then he will keep the agreement he is already legally bound to keep. Seriously - publicly fix this for rodent? Renounce myself as a liar and stand up for her "honor?" rotflmao He's more delusional than I thought. Apparently he thought he would have all this bargaining power withholding CS. I'm sure he promised rodent he would have this all fixed right away.

I just have to stand up for myself. These 2 are control freak tyrants who have never had people stand up to them before. I won't keep the website up forever, but it's staying up for awhile.


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
This was an absolute stroke of BRILLIANCE! I am sooo impressed that you thought to do that. People are much more inclined to click a link than they would be to ask you for evidence. Bravo, bravo, bravo!! hurray

ITA.

My initial thought when hearing what rainy did was: "Why didn't anyone think of this sooner?" and "We should tell everyone exposing on FB to do this."

I think it makes exposure much more powerful and would kill more affairs.

I don't understand the Plan FU reference? If she was calling her WH a rat bast@rd on the site or something, I could. But she just posted evidence of the affair, unless I missed something...


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Originally Posted by indiegirl
The website is a great idea, but it can't replace the meaningful one on one contact when people don't know what to believe.

Anyone who sees this page would have to either be wayward or in serious denial to what is going on. The webpage is tastefully done. Care was exercised when it was created. Not sure why exposure is now being called Plan FU. The webpage is quite clever and effective.

I don't think any BS wants to go back and forth with one on one responses. Rainy has a lot on her plate and it made sense to give a person the option to click or not.



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Originally Posted by black_raven
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I don't think any BS wants to go back and forth with one on one responses. Rainy has a lot on her plate and it made sense to give a person the option to click or not.

I so agree. This is instant, irrefutable evidence. It adds instant credibility to her claims. This was a stroke of genius that I think others could benefit from.

Rainy, can you write a short paragraph about how you set up this webpage so I can add it to my exposure thread? I am in AWE of your creativity! hurray


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Originally Posted by rainysweet
I have clearly done more damage than I expected. pinoke called today, in spite of protective order. Didn't answer. He withheld CS again. (I'm sure he thought I'd go running to him for that today; I didn't). He told IM that if I take down the website, take back all my slanderous claims, remove the PO, and I can't remember what else, then he will keep the agreement he is already legally bound to keep. Seriously - publicly fix this for rodent? Renounce myself as a liar and stand up for her "honor?" He's more delusional than I thought. Apparently he thought he would have all this bargaining power withholding CS. I'm sure he promised rodent he would have this all fixed right away.

OHMY!! It does not get any dumber than that!! He is hoisting himself on his own petard in a HUGE WAY!! Any judge would be furious that he tried to blackmail you using CS!!

I am so happy he told that to blackraven because she is very savvy with legal issues! rotflmao That is great ammo against your husband.


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I used to think BR was a lawyer. You couldn't have a better person helping you.

Your WH is going to get a serious smackdown in court.


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Originally Posted by rainysweet
is a gifted liar/deceiver/manipulator. Even with this, she tried to twist it to make me look like the horrible person, and her this poor, sweet victim.

You have made my day, Madam! You struck a major blow against adultery today! hug


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Wow trying to use CS as a bargaining tool. Can we say manipulation?

You're documenting all this I'm sure, correct?

What a load of crap!!! Parents who use their duty to THEIR children against the other parent has to be low of the low. This is so wrong!!! Make sure you save that for the judge!! A good judge will jump his shyte.

"Excuse me Mr. Deadbeat but you can not use the children for your personal gain" mad

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INGENIOUS on the link! Bravo my dear hurray


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You should be recording everything he says in a journal. In ink.

Good, bad, etc. This will really help you in court, but then you've probably gotten that already.


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Okay, now that I have been made aware that this isn't a searchable website, but one where you are given a specific web address to, it's okay.

I wasn't saying that this particular web site is a part of Plan F/U, but as an observer, it seems that Rainy's attitude is getting close to that. I didn't realize she was "DONE DONE DONE", so Plan B with a bit of F/U? Go for it.

I was wondering, is this purely an exposure of OW, or is WH being exposed as well? Also, would any of this go against your ability to get the permanent PO?



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Originally Posted by rainysweet
take back all my slanderous claims

i love the irony of liars (and doubters) claiming slander. not only do they know nothing of the law, the truth does NOT equal slander!

good on ya, rainygirl. i'm so glad you finally got your back up!


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Originally Posted by Scotland
Okay, now that I have been made aware that this isn't a searchable website, but one where you are given a specific web address to, it's okay.

I wasn't saying that this particular web site is a part of Plan F/U, but as an observer, it seems that Rainy's attitude is getting close to that. I didn't realize she was "DONE DONE DONE", so Plan B with a bit of F/U? Go for it.

I was wondering, is this purely an exposure of OW, or is WH being exposed as well? Also, would any of this go against your ability to get the permanent PO?

I wish I had done it sooner when there was hope. Until I delved into this and got even more horrible information, there was. You're right, I did get a little tipsy with a bit of "F/U" attitude for a bit in there. Sorry. I know that isn't right. But I have tried so hard to save this marriage, Scotland. I have loved this man through the worst hell. I've let him manipulate me, threaten me, lie to me, cheat on me, use and abuse me - maybe I needed to work up a little "F/U" to get this done. And this woman has been traipsing all over me, my marriage, my life, my kids. Maybe a milder form. Plan B with a bit more bite. "Plan B-ite me?"

I don't want this tramp horrible woman anywhere in my children's lives. WH is a puppet who she runs. There really is nothing left of him. It's bizarre. This was never going down without exposing her for what she is.

WH's friends and family have known for a long time. I did try to access his fb page to msg people, but couldn't. He blocked me long ago, andI don't know anyone well who has remained a "friend" with him that could get me his list - it's private. I don't think it matters much. Everyone at work knows too. Everyone has either told him what they think and bowed out of his life, accepted it or condoned it (the few lowlife friends he still has), or worst of all - taken the "I just want him to be happy" conflict avoidance stance.

I hope it won't affect the permanent PO. I will just have to tell the judge the truth - I have finally had it with what these 2 have done to my life, coming after my children and taking away CS was the last straw, I decided to stand up - and that means standing up to all of it. I'm done being trampled, threatened, manipulated, controlled, all of it.


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Use your strength and power you have gained.and.get things in order for plan b. Be methodical and organized. Do not delay.


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RS, I would seriously suggest changing your screen name to sunnysweet because it would appear you have seriously evolved. I am in awe of what you have done. It took you a little while to get out of the gate, but once you hit full stride there was no looking back and no mercy for the infidels.

I am literally shaking my head over the ingenuity of the private website for FB exposure. That is so incredible in it's simplicity and effectiveness I'm truly surprised it hasn't been done or thought of before. I would seriously take the time to add to ML's exposure thread what you did and how you did it when you have time. You can rest assured you have firmly entrenched your methods as a preferred course of action for FB exposure. Truly epic!!

Awesome!

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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Originally Posted by rainysweet
is a gifted liar/deceiver/manipulator. Even with this, she tried to twist it to make me look like the horrible person, and her this poor, sweet victim.

You have made my day, Madam! You struck a major blow against adultery today! hug

Thanks:)

I cannot claim genius for the web page - someone else gave me the idea. (It helps to work with a group of brilliant teachers who find the most amazing things. Most of us acquire a knack for tapping into amazing FREE things, as well:) I, honestly, am a bit technologically challenged. It took me probably 2 hours to set it up when all was said and done. Someone gifted at computers could probably do it much faster. It's very simple.


SETTING UP A WEB SITE:

*All you have to do is go to weebly.com. Enter name, email, set a password, and click "sign up." You might want to set up a new email to link to it, not use your regular one. People viewing your site do not have access to your email. It's mainly just for login, I think. But I set up a new one anyway, just for my own peace of mind.

It walks you through the steps. You name your site. You can do only 1 page, or add as many as you want. It's already formatted nicely, my friends thought it was a professional website that I had just posted to. You can enter text, and upload photos from your computer.

It gives an option to set up a blog. I would strongly advise against that. If you do a blog, other people can post comments, etc. You don't want this to turn into a mud-slinging or 10,000 questions site. You want the impact to be - here's the evidence, see what you need to see, have a nice day. You want to stay in control of it, not open it up to other people (supportive or unsupportive). I didn't put OW's name on the site at first, but people told me I needed to so it would be clear who she was.

I did include a couple of comments, but mostly I wanted the impact to be from the evidence, not me shooting off at the mouth. I also received feedback to include her maiden name, her whole name as it appears on Facebook, so high school friends would still recognize her. I scanned in a card from her to my husband with just a simple message, about love and forever:) in HER handwriting, and then a few pictures. Enough to get the point across. Be reasonably tasteful.

I can't find exactly where it is without going through all the steps again, but near the end there is an option to "set search engines." DON'T do that. You want it to be a private site that someone can't just look for - they have to have a direct link.

You can go back in and edit anytime - add or remove pages, photos, etc. If you leave it open and don't log out, it will appear as something like, "site maintenance underway, currently unavailable, check back." If you ever need to turn it off for a bit for some reason (in my case, I was trying to get a more incriminating photo) that makes it unavailable to people, but shows them they can come back.

Make sure you have a strong password, maybe reset it often - that's easy to do as well (and another reason for setting up a new email as your username, one that people do not know). It will show you the website link at the end.

I put a note at the bottom of my exposure letter that said, "I am not going to subject anyone to images they do not want to see. If you want to see proof of this affair you can go to: website." FB automatically posts it as a link.




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"Plan B-ite me."

I never heard of, nor thought of that. Very clever.

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Originally Posted by reading
"Plan B-ite me."

I never heard of, nor thought of that. Very clever.

lol

It is Plan B, no contact for my sanity, and with the hope that he will at some point pull out of this and be a decent person again, if not a decent father. Not with hope for the marriage. Sad for me. But I have to toughen up to get through this.


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