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I've been married one year with dh five years. Until two months ago I felt my marriage was good. I found out that my Dh had been having an emotional affair with a woman at work. He hid her number in his phone under a guys name. I found out and immediately confronted him. I found out for months he had been calling this woman every free moment he had. I was devastated and felt betrayed and unappreciated as two months earlier I had given birth to our second child. He denies sexual contact says hes sorry and this will never happen again. After a couple weeks after me finding out my Dh quit his job.he denies the "friendship" was anything but I have phone records that prove otherwise. I'm hurt and confused about what to do. Now I'm very resentful against my Dh husband as things have been very difficult financially since he quit his job. How ironic he did the Dirt now me and my children pay the price. I feel I will be miserable if I stay in this marriage.

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Does he want to recover the marriage? Did you ask him to quit his job? What prompted him to quit?

Is the OW married?


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He states he does want to be with me. Doesn't admit to having any issues in our marriage which kind of makes it harder because I don't understand why this happened. I did not ask him to quit but did haggle him when he was on his way to work or came home about contact with OW. She is married but her husband lives in another country.

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Who is this woman? Is she married? Have you considered asking him to take a polygraph test?

I am assuming the two of you lived together before marriage. Please understand that your union began under a shaky foundation because of that. You had a child out of wedlock, correct? Your husband is still acting as a single man, emotionally - that is a hazard of living together without the benefit of marriage.

Tell us, please - did you acutally have a marriage ceremony?


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Originally Posted by Nic2012
He states he does want to be with me. Doesn't admit to having any issues in our marriage which kind of makes it harder because I don't understand why this happened. I did not ask him to quit but did haggle him when he was on his way to work or came home about contact with OW. She is married but her husband lives in another country.

Do you know for a FACT that her husband lives in another country?

I would go to him with a plan of recovery and if he won't get on board, make plans to separate. Unless he does take steps to affair proof the marriage and commit to a plan of recovery, you are looking at a life of hell that will likely be filled with more affairs.

Here is what has to happen in order to recover:

Originally Posted by Dr Bill Harley
The plan I recommend for recovery after an affair is very specific. That's because I've found that even small deviations from that plan are usually disastrous. But when it's followed, it always works. The plan has two parts that must be implemented sequentially. The first part of the plan is for the unfaithful spouse to completely separate from the lover and eliminate the conditions that made the affair possible. The second part is for the couple to create a romantic relationship, using my Basic Concepts as a guide.

I'll describe these two parts to you in a little more detail.

The first step, complete separation from the lover and eliminating the conditions that made the affair possible, requires a complete understanding of the affair. All information regarding the affair must be revealed to the betrayed spouse, including the name of the lover, the conditions that made the affair possible (travel, internet, etc.), the details of what took place during the affair, all correspondence, and anything else that would shed light on the tragedy.

This information is important for two reasons: (1) it creates accountability and transparency, making it essentially impossible for the unfaithful spouse to continue the affair or begin a new one unnoticed, and (2) it creates trust for the betrayed spouse, providing evidence that the affair is over and a new one is unlikely to take its place. The nightmares you experience are likely to continue until you have the facts that
will lead to your assurance that your husband can be trusted.

An analysis of the wayward spouse's childhood or emotional state of mind in an effort to discover why he or she would have an affair is distracting and unnecessary. It takes precious time away from finding the real solutions. I know why people have affairs: We are all wired for it. Given certain conditions, we would all do it. Given other conditions, however, none of us would do it. So the goal of the first step is to discover the conditions that made the affair possible and eliminate them.

After the first step is completed, the second step is to create a romantic relationship between you and your husband using my 10 Basic Concepts here
as your guide. While your relationship may be improving, it won't lead to a romantic relationship because you are not being transparent toward each other. Unspoken issues in a marital relationship lead to a superficiality that ruins romance.

Your nightmares are only the tip of the iceberg. They are but a small reflection of the suffering you experienced when you discovered your husband's affair, and the fear you have that the suffering will be repeated. You have no assurance that the affair is over because you don't even know who the other woman is. You are being asked to trust your husband, who has already proven to be untrustworthy. For all you know, he could be working with her, or you could be going to the same church, or she could be
your neighbor. And since he won't discuss the details of how the affair took place, you have no assurance that another affair will not take its place.

Infidelity is not something that can be swept under the rug. While those who have affairs want to forget about it and move on, those who are betrayed must take very specific steps before they can fully recover. In your case, those steps have not been taken, and as a result, your fear persists. I will send you a complimentary copy of my book, "Surviving an Affair," if you send me your address. It will describe these two steps to you and provide you with a roadmap toward full recovery. But the path will require full disclosure of all details.
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Thanks for ur input.. And yes we did have a ceremony a very nice destination wedding!

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Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Nic2012
Thanks for ur input.. And yes we did have a ceremony a very nice destination wedding!
Okay, so you're married. The whole 'destination wedding' thingy is something I won't waste time on. You're married. That's all we need to know. Now. How have you determined OW's location? Please tell us you're not taking your lying husband's word for that?


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That's ur opinion my wedding ceremony was amazing! And yes I'm married I stated that in my original post!

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If your going to waste time on my post being condescending I would appreciate no more comments from you. Thank you!

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Wow, 8 posts and you're already trying to get rid of an excellent poster. Are you here to get offended, or are you here to try and save your marriage?


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If I didn't want help I would not have posted? The commenter was more interested in whether or not I had a ceremony than anything else! Yes I can take advice just read my post before you comment!

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Folks, let's get back to helping this poster! Keep your posts helpful and productive or please refrain from posting.

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Thank you.

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I am reading through material thank you.

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Nic,

It's important that you not take the word of your husband that the OW's husband is in another country. That may be true, it may not. There's a thread on here entitled, "Never Trust the Word of a Wayward" that you should check out.

When a person is in the wayward fog zone, they will lie about ANYTHING and everything! Until both of your feet - and your H's - are planted firmly in a recovery plan, you can't take his word to be true. It would be hard for me to believe, for instance, that his affair never became physical. It's possible - but with those many texts flying - seems unlikely. Sounds like the PEA chemicals were pretty darn high.

As you read through the material here you will discover how affairs are likened to addictions. The AP is the spouse's drug of choice. They will do anything to keep that drug of choice in their life unless you expose the affair to everyone who can help hold them accountable. This always start with the AP's spouse, if there is one.

Even if the OW's H is out of the country, I bet you can still find him on facebook or some other way to contact him. He really needs to know!

How high is your desire to recover your marriage? It sounds like you are unsure if you want to. Just know that finding out about your H's affair, whether it be EA or both EA and PA, made HUGE withdrawals from his love bank account. (If you've read the material, you'll know all about the love bank and the process of falling in love and staying in love.) It IS possible to fall back in love with each other, but you must follow the plan to do so.

The first thing, after exposing the affair, is to get your husband to send the OW a no contact letter that you approve of - in his handwriting - from the both of you. He must never contact her again. Further, he will need to become totally transparent so the conditions that made the affair possible no longer exist. This means you are privvy to everything in his life and can check up at any time. He should be happy to do this - wanting to prove to you his serious commitment of recovery.

If you check out the article on buyers, renters, and freeloaders on this site you will find the reasons why there was concern about whether or not your H is a buyer in your marriage. He MUST be one (as you must also be) if you are to work this out. I'm not as quick with links as some posters, but if you do a search you'll find it easy enough.

As Melody posted, in order for your marriage to survive your H's infidelity, the two of you must create a marriage that is better than your relationship has ever been! There is a way to do that, if you are both committed to doing so. It's not always easy, but it's the only way.


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Thank you sunny!!! Best post yet smile

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Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



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