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Thought about posting up poems... but I can't write without my mind going to dark places... so instead I'll share the poetry of others; music.

Music is a HUGE part of my life. I played trumpet, baritone, and suzaphone/bass recorder up until high school. Heck, DD14 even followed suit and picked up the trumpet (thought it's difficult with braces!).

My tastes range all over the place, so be prepared.



For starters, Say You'll Haunt Me by Stone Sour. I love the energy of the song. It lifts the lyrics and lends them a drive. As if the singer is down and broken, but refuses to stay down, refuses to accept his fate - or he's a stalker! O_o

Little supernovas in my head
Little soft pulses in my dead
Little souvenirs and secrets shared
Little off guard and unprepared

I was never good enough to find
I was never bad enough to mind
In the middle I will do my best
Take me in your arms and leave the rest

I will give you anything to

Say you want to stay, you want me to
Say you'll never die, you'll always haunt me
I want to know I belong to you
Say you'll haunt me

Together, together we'll be together, together forever

Little variations on my page
Little doors open on my cage
Little time has come and gone so far
Little by little who you are

I can see the patterns on your face
I can see the miracles I trace
Symmetry in shadows I can't hide
I JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT BY YOUR SIDE

I will give you everything to

Say you want to stay you want me too
Say you'll never die, you'll always haunt me
I want to know I belong to you
Say you'll haunt me
(2x)

Together, together we'll be together, together forever
I BELONG TO YOU
(2x)

Little supernovas in my head
Little soft pulses in my dead
Little souvenirs and secrets shared
Little off guard and unprepared

I will give you anything to
I will give you everything to

Say you want to stay you want me too
Say you'll never die you'll always haunt me
I want to know I belong to you
Say you'll haunt me
(2x)

Together, together we'll be together, together forever
I BELONG TO YOU


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"An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." - Niels Bohr

"Smart people believe weird things because they are skilled at defending beliefs they arrived at for non-smart reasons." - Michael Shermer

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Nothing to add, this song stands on it's own;



lightning crashes, a new mother cries
her placenta falls to the floor
the angel opens her eyes
the confusion sets in
before the doctor can even close the door

lightning crashes, an old mother dies
her intentions fall to the floor
the angel closes her eyes
the confusion that was hers
belongs now, to the baby down the hall

oh now feel it comin' back again
like a rollin' thunder chasing the wind
forces pullin' from the center of the earth again
I can feel it.

lightning crashes, a new mother cries
this moment she's been waiting for
the angel opens her eyes
pale blue colored iris,
presents the circle
and puts the glory out to hide, hide


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LIKE this song!!!


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Blended Family with 7 kids between us
Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



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I don't know why, but this song snapped me out of my initial pity party... and I was just overwhelmed with a sense that I would personally thrive no matter what.



Bury all your secrets in my skin
Come away with innocence, and leave me with my sins
The air around me still feels like a cage
And love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...

So if you love me, let me go.
And run away before I know.
My heart is just too dark to care.
I can't destroy what isn't there.
Deliver me into my fate -
If I'm alone I cannot hate
I don't deserve to have you...
My smile was taken long ago
If I can change I hope I never know

I still press your letters to my lips
And cherish them in parts of me that savor every kiss
I couldn't face a life without your light
But all of that was ripped apart...
when you refused to fight

So save your breath, I will not hear.
I think I made it very clear.
You couldn't hate enough to love.
Is that supposed to be enough?
I only wish you weren't my friend.
Then I could hurt you in the end.
I never claimed to be a saint...
My own was banished long ago
It took the death of hope to let you go

So break yourself against my stones
And spit your pity in my soul
You never needed any help
You sold me out to save yourself
And I won't listen to your shame
You ran away - you're all the same
Angels lie to keep control...
My love was punished long ago
If you still care, don't ever let me know
If you still care, don't ever let me know...



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Is it ok if I add a song in here?

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Doooooooooooooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!


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THanks... This song is my Wedding song .. However .. its a newer version of the song because it came out after my wedding. I wish this version of the song was out when i got married. It reflected the attitude of my wife and I in regards to how we viewed what everyone else though about us being together.(they didnt want us to be since we got together at 15 and 16 and greatly insisted we not date. But we showed them!) Its been our mantra ever since ... and it supports POJA! smile



So close no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters

Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words I don't just say
And nothing else matters

Trust I seek and I find in you
Every day for us something new
Open mind for a different view
And nothing else matters

Never cared for what they do
Never cared for what they know
But I know

So close no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters

Never cared for what they do
Never cared for what they know
But I know

I Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words I don't just say
And nothing else matters

Trust I seek and I find in you
Every day for us something new
Open mind for a different view
And nothing else matters

Never cared for what they say
Never cared for games they play
Never cared for what they do
Never cared for what they know
And I know, yeah!

(solo)

So close no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters

Edit: I still get shivers when i listen to it ... when they added the Orchistra to the song .. it added a new dynamic and more power to the song than it had previously with the original version. The song is very powerful and moving for both my wife and I.

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Long time, no post... on this thread.

Fitting. Least favorite stretch of the year.


Anger-bang time.



Atreyu - My Fork In The Road (My Back, Your Knife)

So here we are again
The same fork in the road
I hate you. You love me
This story's getting old
The day that I opened up
You shut me out for good
Forgive, forget, FiretrUCK you
You are a liar and a wh***

So take what you want and leave
You'll never get another part of...

I remember the day that
I thought I would be free
I poured out my soul to you
Exposed everything
I take it out,
My heart's broke
My hand is much the same
I did my best to drink you away


So take what you want and leave
You'll never get another part of...

You are poison on man's lips
Lured in by the curves of your hips
Come here boy, stand by me
Look my way, have another drink

I should have got up...
I should have got up and left you

And I will never ever be your lover again
As far as I'm concerned, we are not even friends
This may not seem to subtle to you
The point I'm trying to make is we are completely through

So take what you want and leave
You'll never get another part of...

You are poison on man's lips
Lured in by the curves of your hips
Come here boy, stand by me
Look my way, have another drink




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Originally Posted by Pepperband
You OK?

The day came and passed with me being buried in work.

I took an extra shift for that Saturday with my home health patient... spent the day playing Xbox w/ my patient (a 10-year old boy, who is elated to have at least one male nurse) and his 6-year old brother.


We went out to dinner and then had drinks with my coworkers after dinner.

Is it wierd that I prefer her being buddy-buddy with the women that I work with rather than anyone she works with?

I'm not buddy-buddy with my coworkers... but that's because they are mostly women.


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Originally Posted by HoldHerHand
Originally Posted by Pepperband
You OK?

The day came and passed with me being buried in work.

I took an extra shift for that Saturday with my home health patient... spent the day playing Xbox w/ my patient (a 10-year old boy, who is elated to have at least one male nurse) and his 6-year old brother.


We went out to dinner and then had drinks with my coworkers after dinner.

Is it wierd that I prefer her being buddy-buddy with the women that I work with rather than anyone she works with?

I'm not buddy-buddy with my coworkers... but that's because they are mostly women.
No it's not weird.


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Blended Family with 7 kids between us
Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



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Can anyone guess why I love this one?



I didn't hear what you were saying.
I live on raw emotion baby
I answer questions never maybe
And I'm not kind if you betray me.
So who the hell are you to say we
Never would have made it babe.

[Bridge]

If you needed love
Well then ask for love
Could have given love
Now I�m taking love
And it�s not my fault
Cause you both deserve
What is coming now
So don�t say a word

[Chorus]

Wake up call
Caught you in the morning with another one in my bed
Don't you care about me anymore?
Don�t you care about me? I don't think so.
Six foot tall
Came without a warning so I had to shoot him dead
He won't come around here anymore
Come around here? I don't think so.

[Breakdown]

Would have bled to make you happy
You didn't need to treat me that way
And now you beat me at my own game
And now I find you sleeping soundly
And your lovers screaming loudly
Hear a sound and hit the ground

[Bridge]

If you needed love
Well then ask for love
Could have given love
Now I�m taking love
And it�s not my fault
Cause you both deserve
What�s coming now

So don�t say a word

[Chorus]

Wake up call
Caught you in the morning with another one in my bed
Don't you care about me anymore?
Don�t you care about me? I don't think so.
Six foot tall
Came without a warning so I had to shoot him dead
He won't come around here anymore
Come around here?
I don�t feel so bad, I don�t feel so bad, I don�t feel so bad

[Breakdown]

I'm so sorry darling
Did I do the wrong thing?
Oh, what was I thinking?
Is his heart still beating?

Woah oh ohh

[Chorus]

Wake up call
Caught you in the morning with another one in my bed
Don't you care about me anymore?
Don�t you care about me? I don't think so.
Six foot tall
Came without a warning so I had to shoot him dead
He won't come around here anymore
Come around here anymore? I don�t feel so bad

Wake up call
Caught you in the morning with another one in my bed
Don�t you care about me anymore?
Don�t you care about me? I don�t think so.
Six foot tall
Came without a warning so I had to shoot him dead
He won�t come around here anymore
No, he won�t come around here. I don�t feel so bad

I don�t feel so bad (Wake up call)
I don�t feel so bad (Caught you in the morning with another one in my bed)
I don�t feel so bad (Don�t you care about me anymore?)
Care about me? I don�t feel so bad.
Wake up call
Caught you in the morning with another one in my bed
Don't you care about me anymore?


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Pity-party antidote -



I've got a number on a napkin, a pounding in my head
It takes everything I've got to crawl out of bed
I lost a hell of a woman, freedom caught me on the chin
But I'm doing alright for the shape I'm in

The sun came up again this morning
I got a call from a long lost friend
Planned us a little road trip down in New Orleans
It ain't much, but it beats where I've been

Yeah, I'm doing alright,
I'm doing alright
I'm doing alright
for the shape I'm in, yeah

Well, I'm getting better at barely getting by
When I look at her picture, I don't break down and cry
And all this time on my hands, it's getting easier to spend 'Cause I'm doing alright for the shape I'm in

The sun came up again this morning
And I took my old fast back for a spin
Now when it rains, it ain't always pouring
And I'm learning how to live again
Yeah, I'm doing alright,
I'm doing alright
I'm doing alright for the shape I'm in

Yeah, I'm doing alright,
yes, I'm doing alright
Yeah, I'm doing alright
for the shape I'm in
Yes, I'm doing alright,
yeah, I'm doing alright
Yeah, I'm doing alright
for the shape I'm in


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I like the "I'm doing alright for the shape I'm in" . I like to think so. I don't like when people expect more.

Like Dr Harley says "You've been to hell and back", it takes awhile to expect anymore than "doing alright"

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Be warned - my be triggering and/or melodramatic. No indication of my personal mood, but I love the song.

Though, I am a tad saddened. DD15 lobbied hard to be allowed to have a "boyfriend" at 15... there were a couple shams, but she had a young summer love. A kid a grade behind her - actually, a very good young man. I admit, I liked the kid.

Well, he chose the other high school in town, and DD15 also decided to go back into band this year. After not seeing each other for 2-3 weeks, and knowing that they would be in separate schools, and that she would be busy (and is having a blast) with band, she decided to end it Friday. She's been hanging out w/ her auntie all weekend mourning her summer love.

I do feel a little sad for both kids.

Anyway... this is one our favorite bands, who we went to see in October;



A note by the door
Simply explains
It's all that remains
It's no wonder why
I have not slept in days
The dust on the floor
Piled up from the years
All those scars and souvenirs
Now that you're gone
It's easy to see
But so hard to believe

By the way
You left without saying
Goodbye to me
Now that you're gone away
All I can think about is
You and me
You and me

It's not like before
You left nothing here
It's all disappeared
It hurts me to see
That we've been a lie
Would it have hurt you to try?

By the way
You left without saying
Goodbye to me
Now that you're gone away

All I can think about is
You and me
You and me

It's sad to say that
This pain is killing me inside
But it's time to say
That this pain is keeping me alive
Twisting and turning
It rips through my heart
It's been tearing me apart

By the way
You left without saying
Goodbye to me
Now that you're gone away
All I can think about is
You and me
You and me

All i think about now
Is you and me
You and me
All i think about now
Is you and me
You and me

By the way
By the way
By the way


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NGB ran her car along a pole at lunch... shocked

She is fine, but the passenger rear door has a new custom yellow strip paint job.



Well I'll never forget the first time that I heard
That pretty mouth say that dirty word
And I can't even remember now what she backed my truck into
But she covered her mouth and her face got red
And she just looked so darn cute
That I couldn't even act like I was mad
Yeah I live for little moments like that

Well that's just like this last year on my birthday
She lost all track of time and burnt the cake
And every smoke detector in the house was goin' off
And she was just about to cry until I took her in my arms
And I tried not to let her see me laugh
Yeah I live for little moments like that

I know she's not perfect but she tries so hard for me
And I thank god that she isn't 'cause how boring would that be
It's the little imperfections it's the sudden change in plans
When she misreads the directions and we're lost but holdin' hands
Yeah I live for little moments like that

When she's layin' on my shoulder on the sofa in the dark
And about the time she falls asleep so does my right arm
And I want so bad to move it 'cause it's tinglin' and it's numb
But she looks so much like an angel that I don't wanna wake her up
Yeah I live for little moments
When she steals my heart again and doesn't even know it
Yeah I live for little moments like that


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Wow - glad she's all right! It sure beats running INTO the pole.

(I left a few custom yellow stripes in my day...)


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Oh no! Glad she's ok. I did that recently with my hunting truck going through a dairy queen drive through. My truck barely fit and when I turned the corner to go to the pay window the back end swung tighter than my front and I bounced my truck off a yellow metal pole taking the corner. Haha I too hve some new yellow paint on my brown truck.

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