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I know he's male because I've met him and he has been over at my house when I was there and I spoke to my H's sister today and found out that she has had dinner with him twice this week.
I have the support of his mom and his aunt to move back into our home. And his mom also printed some information on some marriage sessions that she just took with my FIL (Father-in-Law) in July of this year. And they've been married for 30 years. I'm not sure how to present this info to my H yet.
I have made arrangements to see him tomorrow due to the fact that he had agreed to look at the brakes of our truck, which is my daily driver, and since he wants to keep our kids safe, he told me to bring it tomorrow.
I am not planning on staying tomorrow night at my sisters. I WILL be moved back in tomorrow!!!
Thanks again to everyone for the wonderful advice. In regards to the spy software on his phone. I don't have access YET, but when I do get access, what's your recommendation?
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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Get spectropro? ML has the proper link i cant remember it for the life of me right now ... www.desktopshark.com also has phone spyware you can install awell as PC spyware that you can monitor from any PC with a simple login on their website or have it send you emails now (new feature).. MNG
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I am not planning on staying tomorrow night at my sisters. I WILL be moved back in tomorrow!!! WOOTS! ... I think your are the world record here for getting back into the marital home on our suggestions. Keep up the good work!
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I know he's male because I've met him and he has been over at my house when I was there and I spoke to my H's sister today and found out that she has had dinner with him twice this week. Are you certain that the calls/texts you are seeing are actually to him though? Is his name set up under someone elses # in your H's phone? I have the support of his mom and his aunt to move back into our home. And his mom also printed some information on some marriage sessions that she just took with my FIL (Father-in-Law) in July of this year. And they've been married for 30 years. I'm not sure how to present this info to my H yet. ] Did you tell them that your husband is having an affair? I would also caution you about going to just any marriage counselor when your husband is in an affair. Marriage counselors are destructive to marriages, but a DISASTER when there is an affair. Very few understand the dynamics of the fog and will often make things worse by validating foggy, destructive notions of the wayward. Did you notice how Dr Harley immediately knew your husband is in an affair? That is very rare that a MC would ever detect that. Thanks again to everyone for the wonderful advice. In regards to the spy software on his phone. I don't have access YET, but when I do get access, what's your recommendation? For his phone, try eblaster at spectorpro.com. You do know you can't TELL him about this right? Did you expose the affair to everyone?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Thanks ML .. i was not sure how to spell that link.
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I know he's male because I've met him and he has been over at my house when I was there and I spoke to my H's sister today and found out that she has had dinner with him twice this week. Are you certain that the calls/texts you are seeing are actually to him though? Is his name set up under someone elses # in your H's phone? I am the one that set his name and hers up on our phones records online. So I know the difference. Plus her number is in a different city. So when her number first started showing up, I knew exactly who it belonged to. I have the support of his mom and his aunt to move back into our home. And his mom also printed some information on some marriage sessions that she just took with my FIL (Father-in-Law) in July of this year. And they've been married for 30 years. I'm not sure how to present this info to my H yet. ] Did you tell them that your husband is having an affair? I would also caution you about going to just any marriage counselor when your husband is in an affair. Marriage counselors are destructive to marriages, but a DISASTER when there is an affair. Very few understand the dynamics of the fog and will often make things worse by validating foggy, destructive notions of the wayward. I told them what I thought and of course my MIL (Mother-in-Law) doesn't want to believe that her son could do that. I'm not sure if I want to believe it in my heart, but all evidence points to the contrary. I think I will get a PI to see if I can collect some hard evidence to expose them once and for all. Did you notice how Dr Harley immediately knew your husband is in an affair? That is very rare that a MC would ever detect that. Thanks again to everyone for the wonderful advice. In regards to the spy software on his phone. I don't have access YET, but when I do get access, what's your recommendation? For his phone, try eblaster at spectorpro.com. You do know you can't TELL him about this right? I know, how do I hide the spyware on his phone after I download it? Did you expose the affair to everyone? Not yet, but I will be in my neighborhood tomorrow, so I will be talking to the neighbors.
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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Did you expose the affair to everyone? [
Not yet, but I will be in my neighborhood tomorrow, so I will be talking to the neighbors. Ok, but what about the KEY people in all this? The neighbors can wait. I am referring to exposure targets who are directly involved.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Did you expose the affair to everyone? [
Not yet, but I will be in my neighborhood tomorrow, so I will be talking to the neighbors. Ok, but what about the KEY people in all this? The neighbors can wait. I am referring to exposure targets who are directly involved. I need to figure out a way to track her husband down and then he will find out.
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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Did you discover her last name yet? You can usually join one of those sites for a few dollars a month. I know Spokeo is about $35.00 a year. When this one runs out, I am going to try another one.
BS Me 47,WH 49 DS's x3 17, 10, 7 Multiple D-Days No disclosure by WH. No EP's, no transparency, no guilt or remorse either. Plan C DOES NOT WORK!
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Hi Cn,
I am so very glad to see all of the support you are getting. I will be out of touch for 2 or 3 days as I am heading off for the weekend. The boards can be a bit quiet on the weekend so I hope you will be able to find the answers you need as you need them over the weekend. Just know that whatever the situation someone has experienced it,blogged it and received great advice about it right here on this forum.
Right here you have support materials for those times when noone else is really answering you: 1. Forum posts. E.g. follow the Amazing Scotland story (you can click on her signature in her post early in your thread.) ****Search for Pepperbrands post on interpreting wayward fogbabble*** 2. MB Radio - If you subscribe the value is amazing and you will have more than enough relevant material to keep you going. 3. Dr Harleys articles. Nuff said.
Know that you are the sane one in all of this. Your wayward hubby is pretty much a drug addict. And he is going to act like one too. Trust NOTHING he says. Believe the people here.
DO be aware that marriage counselling generally is chock full of the sucky advice and attitudes that cause these situations in the first place. Even when the info is good it DOES NOT APPLY to how to handle a wayward hubby who is in the fog. Truly.
Talk to you in a few days.
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On the monitoring the text and phone calls, remember that they can always get a pre-paid phone you dont know about. My husband did that and still "texted as friends" on his regular phone so I could see it was all it was. He told her to text his regular phone a few times a day about friend stuff so I would not catch on. "affair phones" are very common. Every wayward needs one!
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Yep they do. The OW bought several for my H. I kept finding them and breaking them!!!
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Hi Cn,
I am so very glad to see all of the support you are getting. I will be out of touch for 2 or 3 days as I am heading off for the weekend. The boards can be a bit quiet on the weekend so I hope you will be able to find the answers you need as you need them over the weekend. Just know that whatever the situation someone has experienced it,blogged it and received great advice about it right here on this forum.
Right here you have support materials for those times when noone else is really answering you: 1. Forum posts. E.g. follow the Amazing Scotland story (you can click on her signature in her post early in your thread.) ****Search for Pepperbrands post on interpreting wayward fogbabble*** 2. MB Radio - If you subscribe the value is amazing and you will have more than enough relevant material to keep you going. 3. Dr Harleys articles. Nuff said.
Know that you are the sane one in all of this. Your wayward hubby is pretty much a drug addict. And he is going to act like one too. Trust NOTHING he says. Believe the people here.
DO be aware that marriage counselling generally is chock full of the sucky advice and attitudes that cause these situations in the first place. Even when the info is good it DOES NOT APPLY to how to handle a wayward hubby who is in the fog. Truly.
Thank you so much, I thought that too.
Talk to you in a few days.
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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Hi Cn,
I am so very glad to see all of the support you are getting. I will be out of touch for 2 or 3 days as I am heading off for the weekend. The boards can be a bit quiet on the weekend so I hope you will be able to find the answers you need as you need them over the weekend. Just know that whatever the situation someone has experienced it,blogged it and received great advice about it right here on this forum.
Right here you have support materials for those times when noone else is really answering you: 1. Forum posts. E.g. follow the Amazing Scotland story (you can click on her signature in her post early in your thread.) ****Search for Pepperbrands post on interpreting wayward fogbabble*** 2. MB Radio - If you subscribe the value is amazing and you will have more than enough relevant material to keep you going. 3. Dr Harleys articles. Nuff said.
Know that you are the sane one in all of this. Your wayward hubby is pretty much a drug addict. And he is going to act like one too. Trust NOTHING he says. Believe the people here.
DO be aware that marriage counselling generally is chock full of the sucky advice and attitudes that cause these situations in the first place. Even when the info is good it DOES NOT APPLY to how to handle a wayward hubby who is in the fog. Truly.
I thought that too
Talk to you in a few days.
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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FWW/BW (me) WH 2nd M for both Blended Family with 7 kids between us Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.
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That's great to see, but how long did the affair to on and did they actually get divorced?? I don't want to go through that. I am hoping that me getting a lawyer and kicking him out of the house, will snap him out of all this selfish behavior. And hopefully read these hooks with me and save our marriage and our family. I moved my stuff back into the house today without his knowledge. I'm not planning on leaving because my sister has gotten on my last nerve.
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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[ That's great to see, but how long did the affair to on and did they actually get divorced?? I don't want to go through that. I am hoping that me getting a lawyer and kicking him out of the house, will snap him out of all this selfish behavior. And hopefully read these hooks with me and save our marriage and our family.
I moved my stuff back into the house today without his knowledge. I'm not planning on leaving because my sister has gotten on my last nerve. Good job! The next step is to expose the affair. Are you on track to expose the affair? Do plan on telling your husband you are not going anywhere? The more effective and immediate your exposure, the more likely you can avoid actually getting divorced. Exposure is your best weapon and I am starting to get very worried about your progress there. Did you read the thread about exposure that is linked in my signature?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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[ That's great to see, but how long did the affair to on and did they actually get divorced?? I don't want to go through that. I am hoping that me getting a lawyer and kicking him out of the house, will snap him out of all this selfish behavior. And hopefully read these hooks with me and save our marriage and our family.
I moved my stuff back into the house today without his knowledge. I'm not planning on leaving because my sister has gotten on my last nerve. Good job! The next step is to expose the affair. Are you on track to expose the affair? Do plan on telling your husband you are not going anywhere? The more effective and immediate your exposure, the more likely you can avoid actually getting divorced. Exposure is your best weapon and I am starting to get very worried about your progress there. Did you read the thread about exposure that is linked in my signature? I did tell my family and I told his Mom, which in turn will tell his Dad. She went straight to him about it. Now he of course denied it and she of course believes him. I did tell my H that I'm not leaving. We of course are in separate bedrooms, but I was able to hug/hold him before we went into separate rooms. I have a meeting with a priest on Wednesday. But since we are not active in our church, I'm not sure what good it'll do, except for the added prayers that are very much needed at this point. Our neighbors were pretty vacant today, but tomorrow is Saturday, so we will see about our neighbors then. I'm still digging to find the OW husband's number. I have their address, so if I can't get the number by Wednesday, I will drive to their house, which is 1hr 45min to get there, but I won't have the kids with me on Wednesday.
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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[ I did tell my family and I told his Mom, which in turn will tell his Dad. She went straight to him about it. Now he of course denied it and she of course believes him. I did tell my H that I'm not leaving. We of course are in separate bedrooms, but I was able to hug/hold him before we went into separate rooms. 4 Please go read the thread in my signature and plan a more effective exposure. Does the OW have a facebook account? Are you sleeping in your own bedroom?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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[ I did tell my family and I told his Mom, which in turn will tell his Dad. She went straight to him about it. Now he of course denied it and she of course believes him. I did tell my H that I'm not leaving. We of course are in separate bedrooms, but I was able to hug/hold him before we went into separate rooms. 4 Please go read the thread in my signature and plan a more effective exposure. Does the OW have a facebook account? No Facebook under her name or her husband's. Are you sleeping in your own bedroom? I'm in our room and he is in the downstairs spare room.
Me: BS (35) DH: WS (37) Two S: 10 and 3 Married: 17 years ILYBNILWY: 9/29/12 Asked me to "go on vacation with the boys" on 10/7/12 Went to my sister's house with the boys Moved back in 10/12/12 Partially Exposed EA: 10/20/12 Exposed EA to everyone: 12/1/12 Stuck in Limbo:1/1/13 Plan B: 1/27/13 Start of Recovery: 3/4/13
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