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Why do you feel the need to try to persuade us otherwise?
I am sorry you feel that way. As said: I am here to learn: I do this by stating my opinion, asking questions & being critical.

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Originally Posted by markos
2) Porn makes men into lazy lovers. If a man's sexual gratification comes only from his wife, then he had better make sure that their relationship is good and that he makes each sexual experience enjoyable for her, so that she will want to continue with him. But if he can get sexual gratification without any effort, he will learn habits that make sex unenjoyable for his wife. Pepperband has a great thread about this on this site.

Here it is .. check it out. It has lots of replies. Including my own reply.
http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2567688#Post2567688

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How can anyone think that the way to be a good lover is to ignore the cherished spouse in their arms?

By gawking at someone else on a screen?

Whether this is done independently trying to get a quick cheap fix, or as a couple, it's clearly unloving. Loving people look each other in the eyes!

There was a couple on here who had POJAd porn - and the wife said it was because her H was a terrible lover so she needed to pretend something else was going on.

Well porn creates terrible, neglectful lovers!

Doh!


What would you do if you were not afraid?

"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.

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Originally Posted by geroldmodel
But if 2 partners LIKE porn themselves & incorporate it in their relationship with POJA,
let's say as a start of foreplay for example,


I think this just backs up Pep's point on her thread that porn creates lazy lackadaisical lovers.

I cannot think of a lazier approach to foreplay than pushing a button and letting some actors do the job for you.

If its just one person who is that lazy, then you have one lazy person and one person being harmed by neglect and dismissiveness. If both people are this lazy, then they will soon get bored of each other and will free each other soon to either bore or harm others.

I would feel really special if a man started his motor due to some other lady's paid performance, rather than what I had to offer...

And if I was ever so bored by or unattracted to my other half that I needed such cheap, cheesy stimulus I would like to think I had enough energy and vitality in me to find a better solution to the cracks in our relationship. Maybe by focusing on each other to the exclusion of other people??? Stating the obvious there I know.


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What would you do if you were not afraid?

"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.

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A friend of mine is a radio talk show host.
He asks callers, "Would you watch your mother or sister strip dance?"
The same question can be asked of porn

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