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3 weeks ago I believed my marriage was ok not great but not bad. 2 1/2 weeks ago I had the sudden feeling something wasn't right I asked my wife if we were ok and she said No, I'm ready to move out and there is someone else. but they were just talking and she thinks he is her soul mate. Of coarse im crushed and start to look at my life trying to figure out what i had done. Iv found its what I hadn't done. I pretty much was a lazy selfish bitter man. I have failed all of my wife's emotional needs. once i discovered this Iv set out to be a better man. I truly believed my wife would never leave me. I now know different and Im doing everything in my power to be a better man for god,me and her and the kids. fast forward to a week ago Iv tried very hard to understanding of her and the emotional affair she is having. but I comto the conclusion I cant deal with her talking to him and ignoring me so I told her 4 days ago that I cant do it and I wont do it and it is unfair for her to keep doing to me. so she agreed and vowed to stop communicating with him. So far i believe that she has done that. but she is so mad at me for making her stop. Iv tried to talk to her,and console her.I have tried to show affection, domestic support, admiration, but she is just not having it. I know she is in withdraw and misses her feel good drug, but how do i get her to start receiving the love I'm tiring to show. thanks for the help
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Hi Repentingman, welcome to Marriage Builders. I would go read the introduction to the Surviving an Affair forum. If you want to have a chance to save your marriage, you are going to have to kill the affair. All that has happened is that your wife is just hiding it better.
Do you know the other man is? Is he married? Are you spying on your wife?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Read this thread: here You should be in Plan A: The Carrot and the Stick of Plan A The carrot of Plan A Meeting your wandering spouse's emotional needs. Making "home" a warm and inviting place to be. Placing emphasis on what has worked in the marriage. Showing consistent self improvement in areas where previously lacking. Stop lovebusting behaviors. Communicating with a calm reassuring voice and relaxed body language, even in the center of a verbal storm created by the infidel. Becoming the person any reasonable spouse would want to come home to. Remaining open to the possibility of recovery. Offering forgiveness and understanding. The stick of Plan A Exposing adultery where it matters most. Exposure that takes the form of a swift and sudden unexpected tsunami of truth. Not apologizing for exposure or speaking the truth in a kind yet direct way. Directly communicating the hurt and devastation that the affair has caused. Not accepting blame for the infidel's choice to become adulterous. Let the consequences of adultery and infidelity fall freely upon the heads of the adulterous. Establishing boundaries that disallow the affair to effect children of the marriage, financal security of the marriage, and otherwise ruin innocent bystanders. Standing up to infidelity as a beast that must be slayed for the good of the family. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Plan A is both a *carrot* and a *stick*.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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so she agreed and vowed to stop communicating with him. So far i believe that she has done that. but she is so mad at me for making her stop. Are you spying on her to make sure? Who is this OM? Is he married? Where did she meet him? How long have you been married? Any children?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Iv done some investagating to discover who he is. I confronted her and told her I know who he is and where he lives the name of his children and of his exwife. This is all I have done I have not spoken to him or threatened him in any way. the wife does not want me to confront him either.
Am i spyin on her No Not really Im suspicious. but have know grounds to think she is still contacting him.
we have been married 10 years we have on child together (9) and two older step children(hers from previous marriage).
Im trying so hard but feel like a fool. Iv gone through a whole host of emotions. she says "shes just not feeling it" love between us that is. Im gonna back and read over the plan A again and Love busters to make sure im not missing anything. She has asked me to stop doing all those things for her and even runs to do thing just so I cant do them. she said it makes her feel guilty. what are some good moves to make her take notice and drop the firewall she has put up.
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Am i spyin on her No Not really Im suspicious. but have know grounds to think she is still contacting him. I would start off by confronting the OM. If he is married, you should inform his wife of the affair. Expose the affair to your children and the rest of your family and close friends. Everyone should know of the affair. You should be spying on her to make sure all contact has ended. Ask her to write that rat a no contact letter that could be delivered by you. If you know where he lives, you can take it to him yourself. My advice is to write a final letter in a way that the victimized spouse would agree to send it. It should begin with a statement of how selfish it was to cause those they loved so much pain, and while marital reconciliation cannot completely repay the offense, it's the right thing to do. A statement should be made about how much the unfaithful spouse cares about his spouse and family, and for their protection, has decided to completely end the relationship with the lover. He or she has promised never to see or communicate with the lover again in life, and asks the lover to respect that promise. Nothing should be said about how much the lover will be missed. After the letter is written, the victimized spouse should read and approve it before it is sent. here [from SAA, pg 58] OW, I want you to know that out of respect and love for my wife and children, I have come to realize that I must never see or talk to you again. My relationship with you was a cruel indulgence that BS did not deserve. While I cannot completely repay BS for the pain I caused her, I will do my best to become the husband she has been missing. I care a great deal for my family and I would not want to do anything to risk their happiness. I will not make any further contact with you and I do not want you to make any contact with me. Please respect my desire to end our relationship.
Sincerely, XXXXXOnce you are sure the affair has been killed, you should follow the plan for recovery in Surviving an Affair. Do you have the book, Surviving an Affair? You can get it in most bookstores or download it on kindle. If you don't have a kindle, you can download kindle for windows for free.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Here are the steps for recovery outlined by Dr Harley: The plan I recommend for recovery after an affair is very specific. That's because I've found that even small deviations from that plan are usually disastrous. But when it's followed, it always works. The plan has two parts that must be implemented sequentially. The first part of the plan is for the unfaithful spouse to completely separate from the lover and eliminate the conditions that made the affair possible. The second part is for the couple to create a romantic relationship, using my Basic Concepts as a guide. I'll describe these two parts to you in a little more detail. The first step, complete separation from the lover and eliminating the conditions that made the affair possible, requires a complete understanding of the affair. All information regarding the affair must be revealed to the betrayed spouse, including the name of the lover, the conditions that made the affair possible (travel, internet, etc.), the details of what took place during the affair, all correspondence, and anything else that would shed light on the tragedy. This information is important for two reasons: (1) it creates accountability and transparency, making it essentially impossible for the unfaithful spouse to continue the affair or begin a new one unnoticed, and (2) it creates trust for the betrayed spouse, providing evidence that the affair is over and a new one is unlikely to take its place. The nightmares you experience are likely to continue until you have the facts that will lead to your assurance that your husband can be trusted. An analysis of the wayward spouse's childhood or emotional state of mind in an effort to discover why he or she would have an affair is distracting and unnecessary. It takes precious time away from finding the real solutions. I know why people have affairs: We are all wired for it. Given certain conditions, we would all do it. Given other conditions, however, none of us would do it. So the goal of the first step is to discover the conditions that made the affair possible and eliminate them. After the first step is completed, the second step is to create a romantic relationship between you and your husband using my 10 Basic Concepts here as your guide. While your relationship may be improving, it won't lead to a romantic relationship because you are not being transparent toward each other. Unspoken issues in a marital relationship lead to a superficiality that ruins romance. <snip> Infidelity is not something that can be swept under the rug. While those who have affairs want to forget about it and move on, those who are betrayed must take very specific steps before they can fully recover. In your case, those steps have not been taken, and as a result, your fear persists. I will send you a complimentary copy of my book, "Surviving an Affair," if you send me your address. It will describe these two steps to you and provide you with a roadmap toward full recovery. But the path will require full disclosure of all details.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Iv done some investagating to discover who he is. I confronted her and told her I know who he is and where he lives the name of his children and of his exwife. How did you find out this info? Are you sure he is divorced? the wife does not want me to confront him either. They never do. Ignore what your WW wants. Her 'wants' are what have gotten you to this point. I think you can right this ship, but you're going to have to follow our steps carefully. Again: how do you know they are divorced?
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FWW/BW (me) WH 2nd M for both Blended Family with 7 kids between us Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.
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the wife and him first got together 13 years ago she was dating him the same time she was dating me.( unaware at the time) but I asked why she choose me over him and she said he was married at the time and just had a baby and she thought he should work it out with her. I dont know for sure he isn't still married but my wife said he was divorced.
funny thing im not sure what to make of it. just a few minutes ago i asked my wife how she was doing. she said depressed I asked why she said she misses her friend. I asked why? she sai because they talk. I asked about what> everything. I said you can talk to me. and thats where she left it. help me understand that.
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I dont know for sure he isn't still married but my wife said he was divorced. You really need to expose the affair to his wife and everyone else. Your wife is enmeshed in a fantasy. If you expose the affair, you burst the fantasy. And if he is married, his wife will help you keep them apart. Is she still talking to the OM?
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I have confronted everyone in the family about the affair. she was not happy about that. anyway I mentioned to everyone because everyone has been so bad to her. Her oldest son Is a butthole to her completely disrespectfull and swears at her constantly. our daugetr will not show her any love what so ever in fact she goes out of her way to give it to me just for spite. Her sister has quite talking to her for the past 6 months and her parents were starting to alienate her. So i took it upon myself to confront each one of these people and explain what is happening to her and to be more Conscience of what they are all doing to her. Iv made my mistakes with her but everybody is down on her and she has no friends or family she can turn too. I think that that is the main reason we are where we are. if it were just me. I can fix me But what about everybody else raining on her parade!
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I dont know for sure he isn't still married but my wife said he was divorced. You really need to expose the affair to his wife and everyone else. Your wife is enmeshed in a fantasy. If you expose the affair, you burst the fantasy. And if he is married, his wife will help you keep them apart. Is she still talking to the OM? I have exsposed the affair. she told me about it and then I found out who he is. I told her I can not go on with her still making contact with him, and the next day she confronted him and ended it. she said she ended it because her therapist said to not me. but she feels termendious guilt over it. as far as her still making contact with him, I dont know for sure but I dont think so.
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I dont know for sure he isn't still married but my wife said he was divorced. You really need to expose the affair to his wife and everyone else. Your wife is enmeshed in a fantasy. If you expose the affair, you burst the fantasy. And if he is married, his wife will help you keep them apart. Is she still talking to the OM? I have exsposed the affair. she told me about it and then I found out who he is. I told her I can not go on with her still making contact with him, and the next day she confronted him and ended it. she said she ended it because her therapist said to not me. but she feels termendious guilt over it. as far as her still making contact with him, I dont know for sure but I dont think so. Who did you expose to on OM's side? Did you find out for sure if he was divorced? He could be lying to your WW to get her into bed with him.
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I have confronted everyone in the family about the affair. she was not happy about that. anyway I mentioned to everyone because everyone has been so bad to her. Her oldest son Is a butthole to her completely disrespectfull and swears at her constantly. our daugetr will not show her any love what so ever in fact she goes out of her way to give it to me just for spite. Her sister has quite talking to her for the past 6 months and her parents were starting to alienate her. So i took it upon myself to confront each one of these people and explain what is happening to her and to be more Conscience of what they are all doing to her. Iv made my mistakes with her but everybody is down on her and she has no friends or family she can turn too. I think that that is the main reason we are where we are. if it were just me. I can fix me But what about everybody else raining on her parade! Are they behaving like this because of her having an affair? She is paying the consequences of her choices. You should not enable her, but let her deal with the consequences of her choices. She should be the one whom apologizes to them.
FWW/BW (me) WH 2nd M for both Blended Family with 7 kids between us Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.
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no I havnt done anythng on the OM side.
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Are they behaving like this because of her having an affair? She is paying the consequences of her choices. You should not enable her, but let her deal with the consequences of her choices. She should be the one whom apologizes to them. no the kids and family have been doing this for years
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no I havnt done anythng on the OM side. Why not? You need to contact his BW or possible XBW (they may not even be divorced). Does he have a Facebook page?
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no facebook page. i dont see the point of confronting him. she contacted him first. she says she ended it. i dont see any evidence she hasnt stopped. it just seam counter productive to confront him and make my wife even more distant.
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i dont see the point of confronting him.
Do you have any language-arts difficulties?
CONFRONT - would imply a discussion with the POSOM
EXPOSE - would implky telling everyone in his world what a low-life, bottom-feeding, scum-sucking excuse for a human being he is.
We are urging EXPOSURE, not CONFRONTATION.
And as far as your being able to "see" the point, well, keeping one's eyes closed to avoid taking action of which one is afraid will prevent a great deal of "seeing".
Your wife's affair is still going on, in her heart. You need to root it out, cut out the putrefaction that has taken hold. This might mean more pain, and possibly an unfortunate end. But the alternative will be a crippled, emotionally-disease-ridden sham of a marital existence.
That is what we experts can "see".
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