You are hanging on every word of a falling down drunk? Please stop posting fogbabble!

Okay, so to explain the living arrangements in THIS house. When me and my wife bought a new house, we planned on renting out this old house. Well we found out in our refinance contract for this house that we weren't allowed to rend it out for a year. So we have my cousin and his girlfriend living in it paying us about 1/2 of the mortgage. After they moved in, My wife separated from me, and this was the only place for her to go, so she came here. My cousin and his GF are staying in the master bedroom upstairs. My wife is staying downstairs. I also plan on staying downstairs, but in the main family room right outside of the room she is staying in. Unless you think I should be super assertive and try to infiltrate her little safe place she has made. That will REAAAALLLLY piss her off I am sure. She said she is going to be leaving - not sure when.

I understand Melody - I just think until I see the fog lifted, I will never have 100% faith that it is just fog. I keep thinking I hear her sniffling in her room.. she has the TV on so it's really hard to tell.

You have seen signs of the fog all along. Does your wife seem rational to you at all? Doesn't she say crazy things to you that make no sense whatsoever? You have been telling us all this time that she has changed.

She is not speaking any logical fallacies or anything, it's the things she says about me and our relationship that don't make sense.

I take that back.. I think there have been a few logical fallacies.

Hmm... If she *is* crying, is that a good or bad thing? Man I wish I knew.

She just walked out of her room, walked past me and said "oh, god..." And she is leaving in her car.

Oh man she HATES that I am here so bad.. I really think she was crying.

To me, crying spells "conflict", and that's what you want - conflict in her affair.

Oh, nevermind.. She is just taking the dog out.

Wish I could say something to her? Would it be okay if I ask her to talk? say I just want to know how you've been doing?

Of course she hates that you're in the house. That means that you care and are willing to fight for her, and right now what with the affair she wants to demonize you. Your showing otherwise means conflict like MB said and conflict is good.

OOOOMMMMGGGG. Okay I tried to talk to her. She is balling, freaking out. She is like "You're forcing me to move in with OM! That's not what I want to do! F*** you, f*** you!" I told her we're still married, and that this is our house, and I am moving back in. Then she said "Us being married is just a technicality. I thought you were a logical person! F*** you! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" I said I just wanted to talk to you and see how you were doing... I kept saying you're welcome to stay here, I would love for you to stay here.

good? She is SO upset.

I just reiterated again, that if she wants to leave, that's okay, but she is very welcome here, that I'd love for her to be here. That I'd love to have a friendly conversation with you, and I'm sorry you're upset.

She replied: What am I supposed to do?? I have work tomorrow! I got to find a place to go to right now?? I don't want to be near you, I don't want to talk to you, I don't want anything to do with you. And STOP APOLOGIZING TO ME FOR BEING UPSET.

Why am I enjoying this so much?

My voice has been calm and cool this whole time.

She is texting OM like crazy of course. I went upstairs into another room to get out of her way... I think I've done enough damage.

Don't talk to her.
Go make supper for yourself and leave extra if she wants some.

She is going to be freaking out because it is normal when your betrayed spouse moves back home while you are cheating and justifying it to freak out.

SImply do no Love Busting (read about them if you don't know what they are) and be polite to her and the upstair renters (who really, if you can afford it.......would be nice to get rid of since they may be part of the reason your marriage is a mess due to their presence in the house).

When wife hisses and spits at you and says she is moving out with OM......just look concerned but do not engage verbally and become busy in activity in the home (wiping down the counters, reading a newspaper or etc).

She may move out BUT she already said she isn't fond of that idea. She dreads it. If she goes, she may possibly come back. Bottom line= you can only control yourself.

Yes, good. Well done, OJ, for not allowing her to drag your into her manipulation! Her comments are more fogbabble - of COURSE you're not "forcing" her to move in with OM! Her plan was to use the house as a flophouse while she screwed around with OM. You've interfered with her plans. Good for you!

Here's the true story: for whatever reason, she CAN'T move in with OM, or she would have done so already.

Dang, son. Well done.

No she can't, because right now OM lives with his parents until later this week.