Lori<P>tee hee I'm STILL cracking up !!!! It takes time to read all these posts, ya know, but ..... Pop Tarts and Bacon!!! <P>No wonder he looks so bad!!! Poor guy is malnourished! Gosh, I sure hope that kid of hers still eats jars of baby food!!! At least that is healthy and balanced!!<P>Tell husband to make sure there is a healthy supply!!!<P>I think it is time to start calling him once or twice a month.... And it is perfect! D isn't supposed to know "Sweetie" (oh, and I can just picture her toothless in about 10 years....) is the girlfriend.....<P>"Hi, Bimbo!!! Is my daddy there? My mom and I have a problem with our stove, and we thought he could fix it!!! I know how he loves Mom's cooking, and we just gotta have that stove fixed!!!"<P>D can start a riot over there!!! <P>Geez, if your daughter went for visitation, not only would you have to pack clothes - you'd have to pack McDonald Gift Certificates as well!!!!<P>Incredibly Hilarious!~!

Tendervittles - the holidays? One shutters!!! Love the treats for Santa. I hope the cloud is fading away. Sure is better news than I've been getting! Thanks! (Anchovies and Marshmallows???? You never know!)<P>Airheart - I don't know what I would have done w/out my in-laws, especially MIL and BIL - they've been lifesavers! And a great support system. I hope you're right about the good signs - I'm a little afraid to be hopeful these days.<P>Hey, at least she didn't say she had to defrost the Poptarts.<P>Ok, all you guys make me feel better. When I got off the phone I was beating myself up for being so catty about the Poptart and Bacon thing. But it was a great release for me. I haven't laughed this hard in months. But you should've heard my MIL!!!!!!! <P>thanks,<P>Lori

Lori - I'm thinking of a way for you to make some money out of all this pain and craziness. How about collecting her recipes and putting them all together to make "The Sweetie Pie Cookbook"? I'll bet it would sell like, well, pop-tarts. (I think SHE'S a "pop tart"!) Regards and blessings,<P>--Wex

TNT - glad you enjoyed this. I have to tell you, so did I after everyone got going. Felt so good to laugh and be just a little mean. Forgive me. I think you're right though. Hey, if he gives the the # and address and he tells me to use them, I ought to, huh? Whew!!<P>Wex - But what if that IS her entire book of recipes. 101 ways to serve Bacon and Poptarts! I like the new name - think I should change it from Sweetie to Pop tart???<P>Thanks.<P>Lori

Lori, I actually feel sorry for Sweetie. No don't send her to me.<P>Unfortunately, this only validates why your H has a problem leaving - she is helpless.<P>She doesn't need a husband she needs someone to care for her, to teach her independence. It seems like she has been abandoned by her family. Aren't there social workers who can help her or something. The relationship she thinks she has with your H is not what he thinks it is. He cares for her like a father. Please don't make fun of her to your H, but try to help him help her. Tell him you're proud of him for trying to help, but he shouldn't try to do it alone.<P>I made one suggestion on your other post, but now I think she needs more official help.<BR>Remember it's not about her but your husband, and then your marriage.

Thanks, Awoken. Getting out a few frustrations here. <P> You know, for a very long time, I felt sorry for her too. But she really hasn't been abandoned by her family. Her mother and stepfather live 3 blocks away. Helped her move, Supported her through the pregnancy, got her a job. Sweetie told H she adores her stepfather. She was very little when her own father left and SF married mom. And from what I understand, she's a pretty normal lady. The only difficulty they have is that she doesn't approve of the things that Sweetie does sometimes and doesn't hesitate to tell her. She sees her mom everyday and she babysits the little one whenever she is asked. BTW, when she and H decided she should move, she threw out her older brother who was living with her and wouldn't let him move in the new house with her. She does have another roommate, but she's gone a lot. Brother was taking the bulk of the expenses and stuff.<P>At first all of us (MIL included), bought the poor pitiful thing routine. A little snooping and catching her off guard showed that the bulk of it is an act. MIL was furious. <P>When she moved from the other house, she had all of her furnishings "taken to the dump" in anticipation of new things from H, because they "really weren't very nice". She also had a perfectly working car (not very new, but hey) and SOLD it to make herself more dependent on H. So for weeks he carted her around, before and after work. He repaired our Volvo and lent it to her to drive, but she wanted the car he was driving (mine) because she liked it better. That time he said no. No, I think that dependency and paternal instincts are the definite glue of this relationship, but I truly feel that a good part of it is simply fabrication on her part. Too many little things that show she is capable of a lot. But, that would mean she didn't need H.<P>The little one's paternal grandparents pay child support, are anxious to babysit whenever they can and have taken the little one on vaction, inviting Sweetie along. We found out (from Sweetie herself) that they helped w/ medical expenses and maternity clothes even before paternity was proven.<P><BR>I know this is about my marriage and H and I am very ashamed of myself (ok, just a little - I have been fairly gracious about my feelings toward her so far - she is very young.) I have never ever said one thing about her to him - actually never mentioned her until this past Tuesday and then I didn't say anything bad. I wouldn't. <P>But the more I find out about her, the more I think her vulnerability and helplessness are fake.<P>I'll check out your other post. Any suggestions would help. <P>Hey, and usually I'm not so mean, I just don't believe her anymore.<P>Thanks for the good advice. (And waking up my conscience again - it could use a good kick sometimes!!!)<P>Lori<BR><p>[This message has been edited by lostva (edited March 31, 2000).]

Lostva: My apologies for saying this, but after reading "her sweetness"(sarcastically said) version of supper and the replies from the other folks, I could not help myself. I was short of rolling on the floor. I needed a good laugh. Thank you. If he ever gets his act back together and gains confidence in himself, he will realize where he truly gains his strength and support and LOVE from. From you. Even though, I thought I could do it alone and maybe under different circumstances, I could, I realized after making a big fool out of myself, my strength and support was in my other half. I know it will take years before we can be healed and sometimes it is very hard for me, but listening to the goofball antics ms. sweetie pie does tickles me. She should take her show on the road. Don't worry he will wake up and hopefully will get the help that he needs. Poptarts and bacon. Her and Martha Stewart outta get along real well. HaHa! You know what sounds good right now? (coming from a bulimic, another sarcastic remark) BLT sandwich with a bowl of veggie soup, cream soda with crushed ice, in front of the TV watching "home for the holidays." Take care of yourself and have a great weekend! My love to you

Come on folks, this is serious. Imagine what those poptarts and bacon are doing to that poor guys system. Keep that up and there won't be much to take back when the time comes. Next time you see him slip him a can or two of beanie weenies. Now that has substance.<P>Flip

Thanks, Sobeit. Glad it got a chuckle out of you. Keep hoping the good hopes for us.<P>Flip - Stocking up on Beanie Weanies for the next time around!!!

OK - I think that I can attempt a response to this...this.....whatever!!!<P>LOLOLOLOLOL!! (stop it, sheba!)<P>Ahem....Now I have been known to fancy a pop tart or two in my day!! Actually, I find the Chocolate Fudge ones very fulfilling around the "once a month" time...(sorry gents!)...they can satisfy a craving like nothing else!!<P>I have also let my palette succomb to the wonderfully delicious, but ever so fattening, bacon strips .... especially when accompanied by some perfectly browned french toast!!<P>I will admit....with shame....that I have had these two very different - yet satisfying - taste sensations in my mouth at the same time.....in the form of CHOCOLATE MILK!!!! Yes, I have chocolate milk with french toast and bacon.....I am humbled!!! lollollol!!<P>However, I have been pondering the complexities of just how poptarts and bacon (teeheeteehee!!) are presented to titillate the recipient's eye as well as their pallette!!<P>I have come to the conclusion that - the bacon is placed - ever so symmetrically - on top of one poptart and then the second poptart is gently placed over the bacon "filling" to form a perfect "sandwich" like meal!! <P>I am afraid, and embarassed, to admit that my preparation skills are lacking....for I am mystified as to whether the frosted sides face inward - thus, trapping the bacon within it's delicate sweetness : or would the absorbative cookie like sides need to blanket the bacon to capture the drippings? Hmmm? <P>Perhaps they are both placed with frosting facing upwards thereby accomplishing both functions at once!!! <BR>AHA!!!! I think I am onto something here!! <P>I find it ingenious that the poptart people foresaw this creation and conveniently placed TWO Poptarts in each of the stay fresh packs within a box!!!! <P>Now to get marketing for this creation so that the defrosting of bacon (which is: oh so time consuming and inconvenient) is eliminated.....one perplexing dilemma remains however.....<P>What do you serve to quench one's thirst and enhance the savory goodness of this creation's every bite? <P>Perhaps we can explore the world of "sweetie" and bask in what wisdom she can offer.......<P>HAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!<P>LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!<P>oh-oh - I have to come back again!!<P>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!<BR>LOLOLOLOLOLOLololololololol......<BR> <p>[This message has been edited by Sheba (edited November 05, 1999).]

Guess you can tell only real strong men can admit wihen they make a mistake. If he is like most men that will go right over his head. Be sure and fix all of his favorite foods. You might even send a doggie bag with him just enough for one. That should make the spark fly. By the way how about PoP's Tart for a nickname?<P>------------------<BR>di<P>

Sheba is a <B>VERY, VERY BAD GIRL</B> and should not come out and play unless she can say something nice about the culinary efforts of said Pop's Tart (that one was GREAT SDS!). <P>Sheba, I think we'll give you 40 lashes with a limp piece of bacon... hahahaha<P>Oh Lori, did ya ever have ANY idea that we'd have so much fun with this??? Poor, poor sweetie... and I definately think her name should be changed to "Pop's Tart" - a CLASSIC! <P><P>------------------<BR>~Sheryl<P>Marriage: the most important contract you'll ever enter into, and the most sacred.<P><BR>

OMG!!!<P>After reading Sheba's post (Can't wait until she comes back ha ha)<P>I am absolutely laughing so loud and so hard, my grandson (who is one) thinks he is funny! He's walking back and forth laughing,<BR>I'm laughing - oh no I never had such a laugh!!!<P>Maybe we should send the recipe to Martha Stewart!!!!<P>OMG I can still picture Sweetie toothless in 10 years ha ha ha ha ha

What.... (whiney) I was nice!!<P>But NB, I left out the B&@#*! part!!!<P>LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!<BR>HAHAHAHAHAhhahahahaha!!

SSHHEEBBAA!!!!! If NB won't let you play, c'mon down here! I definitely think that you are thinking WAYYY too much these days though!!! don't worry - I remembered the b%#% part!!!<P>SDS - I think the new name is great!! PT for short, right? Tried the strong men thing. Missed it completely. <P>NB - remember you must DEFROST the bacon first - then it's perfectly limp!! No, I knew that MIL had a blast with it (actually, I was in awe for a while, but she'd had a couple of hours to get her wheels turning!!)<P>TNT - pull yourself off the floor!!! At least you're amusing your grandson! Before we send the recipe, we must find out the exact cooking time and preparation methods. Toothless - I do like that image!<P>You guys are great!!! (Naughty, but great!)<P>Lori

Hi Lori -<P>I've been waiting for you....<P>What happened about dinner tonight?<P>Hugs, <P>Sheba<P>PS - I can't help it if I have to amuse myself while I am waiting......

OMG, you are not going to believe this. I just turned the TV on to hear Daryl Hughley say "and we invented the Pop Tart with the "forbidden fruit" filling!! Started me up all over again!<P>H was a no show. Knew he would be. Obviously tempted by more savory culinary delights than our seafood dinner. <P>Had a nice time, though. Sent his b-day presents home. PT (I gotta try it a few times anyway!) will have a FIT when she reads the card!!! Mush city!!<P>BTW, did I tell you I found out she THREW AWAY my anni card from him. He told me, but mom confirmed, she admitted it!!<P>You had WAYY too much fun without me though. Don't stop now that I'm back.<P>Lori

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!<BR>HAHAHAhahahahahahahahahaha!<P>Forbidden Fruit Filling....!!!<P>hahahahahahalololololololhahahahaha!!!<P><BR>hahahahahahahah (oh, stop!!!) hahahaha!<P>lolololololololol!!!<P>Now I have to revise my recipe to include jelly!!!!!<P>lololololololololol!!!!!<P>hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!<P>I guess "Sweetie" really is too sweet!!!<P>lolololololololollollol!!! Gosh, I can't breath!!! ...........<P>hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!<P>

MY, my Sheba - what did that "smudging" do for you????<P>

Actually, I was calming down and then you had to go and talk about the commercial.....teehee!!!<P>So the little (bleep) ripped up your Anniversary card, eh? I knew she did something to it!!!!<P>Glad you now know for sure that it did exist.......<P>How did you "send" his present and card to their address.....through mail or person?<P>What is the story with H going to build the fence at your bro's place? Is that going to materialize ya think? I think that would be a great opportunity for H to get a breather and a change of scenery to wake up to!!!<P>H will be OK, Lori!!! He has to wade through this mess...I know that you worry (like I do about mine!) but you must also remember that he created it!<P>He will come out of this with (God Willing) a better understanding of himself and what exactly the true meaning of love is....which is surrounding him through you and his family......<P>If that happens....I won't minimize by saying it's worth it., but I will say that God knew you could handle it as well as you have.<P>HUGS,<P>Sheba