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Have you seen this?
Plan A Dr. Harley doesn't want us to perceive "the stick" part as punishment, but holding the WS accountable.

Also, this.
What are Plan A and Plan B?


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I read both of those. I have the one bookmarked. I am understanding Plan A much better.

Today I am going to go spend time with my daughter.


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Originally Posted by ChristianSamuari
Should this actually be in the recovery board since the affair is over or should I start the recovery board once she agrees? Because she hasn't agree completed I should assume the affair is going on. I do have access to the phone records.

The affair isn't over.

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I got caught snooping. I called one of the numbers on the call log from the phone records... I assume this a major love withdrawal. It was my wife's gay co-worker. She answered the phone with her at the party...oh boy.

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Originally Posted by ChristianSamuari
I got caught snooping. I called one of the numbers on the call log from the phone records... I assume this a major love withdrawal. It was my wife's gay co-worker. She answered the phone with her at the party...oh boy.
Your WW answered the phone?

Did you do a reverse phone look up before you called? Did you block your number when you called? Did you say anything when the phone was answered?


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My wife sitting right next to her and another call came in on another phone...it was my WW. I spoke.


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Originally Posted by ChristianSamuari
My wife sitting right next to her and another call came in on another phone...it was my WW. I spoke.
You say "I will do whatever it takes to protect my marriage".

So the person whose number you called is a female?


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My wife accused me of lying because I also created a Facebook page to apt on her and I friended men and women from school. I removed all women and deactivated the account.

She asked if I had any female friends on there and I only had some older lady like grandmother but i friended some later and asked some to be friends.... I see that was wrong and so I told her I was sorry and that was inconsiderate of me and I removed them and deleted the account. It appears now that she seems indifferent towards me because of this. She said this is a sign that you haven't changed and your still lying to me and I am do e with the lying stuff. I gave her the password to the account so she can see I am being transparent open and honest and I confessed I used it to just see what she was doing.


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Originally Posted by ChristianSamuari
My wife accused me of lying because I also created a Facebook page to apt on her and I friended men and women from school. I removed all women and deactivated the account.

She asked if I had any female friends on there and I only had some older lady like grandmother but i friended some later and asked some to be friends.... I see that was wrong and so I told her I was sorry and that was inconsiderate of me and I removed them and deleted the account. It appears now that she seems indifferent towards me because of this. She said this is a sign that you haven't changed and your still lying to me and I am do e with the lying stuff. I gave her the password to the account so she can see I am being transparent open and honest and I confessed I used it to just see what she was doing.
When did you make this account?


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I made this account years ago but I reactivated it to spy a few days ago.


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Listen, spying on your wife isn't bad.
I wouldn't worry about it too much.
The fact is, she has an ongoing 2 yr affair with a relative;
And office romances where she has confessed to having various sex acts with.

There are probably a lot more you dont know about.
In fact, its possible shes having an affair with this gay coworker.

Just keep plan A. Dont worry about being caught

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I am going to continue with Plan A. I might bump it up to a year though.


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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
Listen, spying on your wife isn't bad.
I wouldn't worry about it too much.
The fact is, she has an ongoing 2 yr affair with a relative;
And office romances where she has confessed to having various sex acts with.

There are probably a lot more you dont know about.
In fact, its possible shes having an affair with this gay coworker.

Just keep plan A. Dont worry about being caught

I hope my wife is not engage in lesbian activity...that might be too much.


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Originally Posted by ChristianSamuari
I am going to write my wife an email, stating the things from the Checklist of ending the affair. Is that good. I want to do PLAN A the best I can.


Should I do this, or no?


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This is the letter I drafted.
WW,
I know our marriage has had a lot of ups and downs and now we are in a situation that is just unbelievable. I know you are going through a tough time and have a lot on your mind. This whole situation has caused a lot of pain on our families, our church and most important our daughter. I know things do not look hopeful but I am open to working on this marriage and making it better and healthier than what it has been.


With that said, your affair(s) have caused me much pain. I reflect upon the good times that we did have and I have to question if those were real or not. The affair you said lasted two years but I go back to when the 1st time you told me and it is like it has not ended, so it felt like it lasted 3 years.

I still love you and I am willing to forgive rather you wish to be in the marriage or not but If you are willing to reconcile I am asking for the following if there is to be any reconciliation to improve this marriage.
�End all/any affair that is going on now
�No Contact Letter sent to OM and any other person
�Quit your current job and find a new job with different hours or stay home
�Transparency and accountability to all devices, phone, email, FaceBook
�You go to individual counseling and get a female mentor/advisor
�You stop associating with certain friends (named in letter).

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I wouldn't write a plan a letter.
It won't do any good as long as the affair is ongoing.
I would just continue plan a.

If you prefer you can email Dr Harley and ask him for his advice

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I will take your advice. I will save it for later. On to plan A.


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2 things.
1. I just HACKED OM's FACEBOOK ACCOUNT!!! Now what? Say's I have to wait 23 hours and 59 minutes.


  • What should I do if I find out my WW has still been contacting him through it?
  • What should I do with the account after I search through it?


2. December 16th was our 7th anniversary this year. I invited her over the house, she has been staying with her parents. I played some songs that we liked and danced with her, and gave her a ring and a card. We ended up having sex for an hour and half and then went out to eat.

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Dont do anything with it.

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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
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Dont do anything with it.


Ok. I will.


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