Pius,

I think semantics are intruding here. I know what you mean by using 'adore', but I think that term is best left to describe the relationship between each of us and our God. I'm guessing you meant love, admire and respect because she Is their mom and takes care of their needs at this point, as you said. However, what I think you're overlooking is that, as your w's aberrant behavior continues you're kids are going to lose their respect and admiration for her as they get a little older and fully realize what is going on (whether from you, or their own observations). At that point, altho they will always love (maybe a better term for love is value) their mom., I think that they could get to disrespect her enough for what she is doing to rebel and engage in some serious self-destructive behavior - same as what your W is doing.

A few more points Pius. I would consult with your pastor rather than a deacon. I work with most of the deacons at my parish, and while I am friends with them and respect their calling and what they do, they dimply don't have the knowledge and experience to handle the situation you have. Another point, I like you believe that marriage is forever. That is and should be the commitment. However, and Dr. Harley was right on this, WHEN a spouse threatens continuing pain and disruption of the family, as well as retracting her vows, LEGAL divorce IS permitted. This is another reason why you need to consult with your pastor and NOT a deacon. And finally, praying to Mary (Blessed Mother) is great, but it should only serve as a guide and encouragement, not as a solution. Mary and her Son are not going to carry any of us on their back - they're going to expect us to accept the help that is give us (i,e.MB) and move along.

So, here are my commendations:
1) stop trying to snow people here and disparage MB members who have been trying to help you for quite awhile,
2) I resect your faith, it is same as mine, but stop clubbing others with it as if it was the only valid faith
3) Consult with your pastor and bare all.
4) Expose your W to ALL of your kids and her family
5) Seek, find, and expose to current OM's pressure points, and
6) Totally out of the state

I would like to hear back,

Tom

Pius,

Well, I guess you have retreated to your bunker again. Am sure you'll surface again in a few months when you realize that your WW has slept with OM3 thru OM5. How you and your way beyond the pale WW can call yourselves a family is a mystery.

Tom

Tom,
Haha don't knock bunkers, they are pretty nice. I read your response, I just haven't had time to post again until now.

In all seriousness, I'm not snowing or disparaging anyone on here. However that doesn't mean that I will agree with them all the time either. I am taking the advice given here, as well as elsewhere, very seriously and am giving it due consideration. However ultimately the decision is mine and I will do what I feel is right.

Also, I'm not clubbing anyone with my faith. I am, however, proud to be a Catholic and I make no apologies for it.

I spoke with the deacon at my parish, and he is definitely the most appropriate person to have spoken to. He gave me some good advice.

I have exposed to several of WW's friends, and to my children. I told WW that if there is any future incident, I will expose to the rest of the family. I realize you think I should have done that already, but at this point I'm going to stick with my word to her. Based on our first experience with affair #1, she knew this was a possibility so I didn't "tip my hand" by revealing this as a possibility. Remember, we went through all of this before last summer. We even moved.

I am still trying to get in touch with OM's BS. She hasn't answered any of my attempts at contact so I am trying one more thing. Once I get in touch with her, I will attempt to contact OM myself directly. This was one of the things the deacon at Church advised.

Hi Pius,

If you are still reading, I wanted to bring something to your attention regarding your religious concerns should you divorce. You said your wife is Protestant...was she baptized? If she wasn't, you should look into the Favor of the Faith (aka Petrine Privilege). A valid marriage could still be invalidated by the Church if you meet the criteria. It is not an annulment. The Pope himself makes the decision to grant you 'favor.'

black_raven, thanks for the continued interest. My wife was indeed baptized as an infant so the Petrine Privilege would not be applicable.

This is a demand and threat.
You should have exposed to all family and friends.

Did you ever expose to OM's BW?