You have a lot of nerve. Marcos nor any other poster is responsible for educating your lazy husband or can make him care. You were advised to separate long ago and YOU choose to stay. That is on you and not anyone else...even your H.

Get a divorce.

My husband abused me as well, lonely4years. Severely.

And Marcos I have read your entire thread. I begged my husband to study it or read it or talk about it with me. You are NOTHING like my husband. You are so, so much better.

So so much.

You all simply have no clue.

I really admired your desire to FIGURE THIS OUT Marcos.

My husband has a GIANT EGO and is so
Self absorbed he can't even see past his face.

He broke our vows and had orgasm after orgasm
To women's genitalia night after night when I needed him.

No, unfortunatly he isn't anything like you. I truly wish he was with all my heart.

Black raven, yup. I've got nerve.

Sure as hell do and am proud if it.

You wanna call me a whore? BRING IT

ROTFLOL.

Tell that to the woman who cowered in the corner, bruised and in fear for her life.

Where did anyone call you a whore?

You are creating drama. If you are sick of your H, leave today and file for divorce on Monday. Do you have family you can call to help you get out?

LOL no need to repeat it...once was enough.

Good luck to you

Didn't quit, thanks for making an effort.

Dr Harley has been lied to so even he has NO CLUE what has really gone on.

My husband is a master manipulator, everyone including dr H is confused.

I don't have a "short attention span at all" (wtf?) and I am
An introverted homebody who hates excitement.

Unfortunately we tried emailing dr Harley and Guess what, my husband would just lie. I'm exhausted from being the only person thing the truth!!!

I can't defend myself any longer.

Call me a whore if you all want I I QUITE LITERALLY do not give a [censored].

There's nothing special about your case. There's nothing different.

The abused becomes the abuser. It happens all the time.

You do not get a "special pass" just because your husband was abusive. You should have gotten a divorce, then you would have been free to make out with whomever you wished.

So you are leaving today, lonely?

Really?

I spent quite a lot of time posting to him. I'm sorry you think I was no help.

Good grief. What does that say about you? You object to being called a whore, but what are you calling yourself?

So do I. I know how she's feeling right now.

I only wish you'd thought of her before you went back to her husband's hotel room and made out with him. It's too late for you to feel bad for her now. Feeling bad for her now does not make your crime towards her go away.

Far from having made her marriage better, you've ruined her life. Congratulations.

And now your other man's wife can spend her nights crying over the image of her husband doing the same thing with you.

There's no problem so bad that an angry outburst can't make it worse.

Prisca wrote to you a lot on your thread. She tried to advise you to calm down, and she warned you against having an affair.

You were so angry at her advice. And now look what's happened; you abandoned your thread because you were being "abused", you didn't calm down, you behaved impulsively just like Dr H implied you would do, and you had an affair.

You had the opportunity to post your side about what was happening in your marriage, so if MtnMan was lying, we would have known. How could we have known once you decided to stop posting?

You could have told Dr Harley, but there are very few posts from you on the private forum to him. If he was fooled by your husband, how was he to know when you refused to participate in the online course any more? You had Dr Harley and a coach to listen to your side. Look how the programme helped Prisca. They listened to her when markos was on the public forum posting about how hard he was trying, and they knocked sense into her abusive husband's head. Look at markos and Prisca's marriage today.

And now you're here saying nobody wanted to help your marriage .

That thread was over a year long, and many people posted to you, trying to help you.

Good.

Isn't that better than being in one? From the names you call yourself, you must think so too.

Please stop being so offensive though. You are not the only one to have experienced pain and you talk about encouraging this man to fix his marriage. Think of all the people here in agony before you speak.

Do you know how painful that is for BWs to hear? Every OW since the dawn of time has 'helped with the marriage'. She thinks herself better than the BW and can do her work, support her man better than his rightful wife.

Helping? Like going into a sick neighbours home and taking a fancy to her jewellery.

This is "How affairs begin 101".

We always try to warn posters against this, especially when they are BSs and their love banks are low, and they desperately need love and kindness. Usually they spit at us for saying that. That's exactly what you did...and then had the affair anyway.

How grateful his BW must be that you stole his friendship, respect and heart from her - but refrained from actual sex.

She gets to take care of that does she while you lap up the romance?

lonely4years,

You are making a terrible mistake by having an affair.