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Did your W have children from her first marriage? Dr Harley has written to anoher BH in an affair-marraige before. I will clip out the part he included about blended families unless you come back and tell me she does have other children.


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Dr Harley (clip) to the OM-husband who was posting here for help on his affairage:

Originally Posted by Dr. Harley
I've read through your original question and the responses you've received, and almost to a responder, they are warning you about what happens to relationship that originated as an affair. I have counseled hundreds of these couples and am presently counseling couples that married after an affair, and I can tell you from first-hand experience, and their own unsolicited comments, that if they had put the same effort into their marriages, they would be happily married to their original spouses today.

While it's true that there are happy marriages that start as affairs, they are in the minority. Only about 5% of all affairs end in marriage, and only about 1/3 of those marriages survive the first five years. You probably have one chance in 100 of turning this marriage into a successful relationship, and you're off to a terrible start in spite of your love and commitment.

I have a theory about why marriage after an affair is so unsuccessful, but the fact that they're unsuccessful is well documented. My main contention is that for whatever reasons, those who have affairs tend not to follow one of my cardinal principles for marriage: The Policy of Joint Agreement (never do anything without an enthusiastic agreement between you and your spouse). They tend to do what they please without considering each other's feelings. While that may not apply to both members of the relationship, it almost always applies to at least one of them. Your friend's affair with another man in the beginning your your relationship is evidence that she's not thinking about your interests.

I try very hard to keep these marriages together, in spite of the fact that there is such a low probability of success. If I thought I would fail, I wouldn't be wasting my time. And yet, I have had very little success. I keep thinking that I will eventually find a way to succeed.

There are so many obsticles to overcome. In addition to failure to follow the POJA, there is also a marked failure to follow the Policy of Radical Honesty. They tend to be incredibly dishonest, in spite of the fact that they start out thinking they can look right into each other's very souls.

http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2000767&page=2


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So you see...even if you are able to get her to implement ironclad EP (which it sounds like basic ones are already being rejected) to prevent another affair, you have a bigger problem on your hands. One or both of you are going to reject POJA and have issues with dishonesty = unhappy marriage.

I have heard Dr Harley say that he has counseled couples before in troubled marriages and "nothing works" and he is scratching his head and finally they later reveal that they are in an affair marriage.

Sorry to be harsh, but you need to see what an uphill battle you face.

This forum isn't going to be able to help you. Like others suggested, you are going to get Dr Harley's help.


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Susie, my wife has only one child, our son.

We spoke with Dr. Harley today, I am very hopeful again. My assignment is to avoid all of the love-busting behaviors and criticisms - no matter what. I know that I can be the husband that she needs and deserves.

Things were good before, as far as I knew, and now that I know, they're going to be that much better. The road ahead will be very difficult, I know, but I'm going to take it anyways.

Thank you for everyone's input. If you guys feel this thread should be closed, don't hesitate.

Thanks again!




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Originally Posted by Fate
Susie, my wife has only one child, our son.

We spoke with Dr. Harley today, I am very hopeful again. My assignment is to avoid all of the love-busting behaviors and criticisms - no matter what. I know that I can be the husband that she needs and deserves.

Things were good before, as far as I knew, and now that I know, they're going to be that much better. The road ahead will be very difficult, I know, but I'm going to take it anyways.

Thank you for everyone's input. If you guys feel this thread should be closed, don't hesitate.

Thanks again!

And I know that I can be the wife that truly deserves you.

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Originally Posted by Fate
We spoke with Dr. Harley today

On the radio?


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Originally Posted by BrainHurts
Originally Posted by Fate
We spoke with Dr. Harley today

On the radio?

Yes on Mbradio

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Originally Posted by Fate
Originally Posted by BrainHurts
Originally Posted by Fate
We spoke with Dr. Harley today

On the radio?

Yes on Mbradio
I haven't had a chance to listen to the show yet.

What did Dr. Harley say?


FWW/BW (me)
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Blended Family with 7 kids between us
Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



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As this couple is getting help directly from Dr. Harley, this thread is now locked.


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