Welcome to the
Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum

This is a community where people come in search of marriage related support, answers, or encouragement. Also, information about the Marriage Builders principles can be found in the books available for sale in the Marriage Builders® Bookstore.
If you would like to join our guidance forum, please read the Announcement Forum for instructions, rules, & guidelines.
The members of this community are peers and not professionals. Professional coaching is available by clicking on the link titled Coaching Center at the top of this page.
We trust that you will find the Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum to be a helpful resource for you. We look forward to your participation.
Once you have reviewed all the FAQ, tech support and announcement information, if you still have problems that are not addressed, please e-mail the administrators at mbrestored@gmail.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 4 of 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 15 16
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 790
Likes: 4
G
Member
Offline
Member
G
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 790
Likes: 4
I believe flexispy has a very good helpdesk. Why not ask for help?

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
He has an iphone 6+ with the most recent ios. All the spyware only works for older ios.

I just found one of the hotel receipts that shows a $150 charge for smoking. My husband has never smoked. frown

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by newtopia
He has an iphone 6+ with the most recent ios. All the spyware only works for older ios.

What is the ios version?



"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
9.3 or 9.2.1 ( 9.3 was new update yesterday an im not sure if he updated it yet or not. )

Last edited by newtopia; 03/22/16 06:51 PM.
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by newtopia
9.3 or 9.2.1 ( 9.3 was new update yesterday an im not sure if he updated it yet or not. )

Wondershare MrFone text retrieval works with all the ios 9's. Did you actually CALL flexispy and ask? I am sure there are many that do work on the latest updates, you just have to do the legwork.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
Right on the flexispy website it says ios 9.0 i tried to call, # doesnt work and sat on chat for a half hour waiting.
Ill have to try more tomorrow. Maybe by some miracle I can get some sleep.

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by newtopia
Right on the flexispy website it says ios 9.0 i tried to call, # doesnt work and sat on chat for a half hour waiting.
Ill have to try more tomorrow. Maybe by some miracle I can get some sleep.

No, the # does work. You need to try again. When I looked it said 9.2. So you need to call and stop giving up so easily. This is really ridiculous.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
ok here's what I got. Did the wondershare, it came up with a few of the texts. he was clearly at the bar. Talking to two women clearly. One text said from one woman said "if you give your D to everyone till it hurts you are gonna have a big problem"

After further snooping on his phone I found the moment app. Funny thing this was put on forever ago by both of us for no real reason. It shows where his phone was at and for how long. At the bar until 4am more than once(pretty sure they close at 2) and it looks like he may have stayed at her house overnight. AND that was the night before he came home! frown Funny thing he has her name in his phone as last name C and it is really S.(first name is correct) Both numbers are still in phone as unblocked. Neither have texted since the 17th. This, the texting log of 140 texts, smoking in his hotel room. Is this enough? I still just can't believe this.

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,473
Likes: 5
B
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,473
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by newtopia
ok here's what I got. Did the wondershare, it came up with a few of the texts. he was clearly at the bar. Talking to two women clearly. One text said from one woman said "if you give your D to everyone till it hurts you are gonna have a big problem"

After further snooping on his phone I found the moment app. Funny thing this was put on forever ago by both of us for no real reason. It shows where his phone was at and for how long. At the bar until 4am more than once(pretty sure they close at 2) and it looks like he may have stayed at her house overnight. AND that was the night before he came home! frown Funny thing he has her name in his phone as last name C and it is really S.(first name is correct) Both numbers are still in phone as unblocked. Neither have texted since the 17th. This, the texting log of 140 texts, smoking in his hotel room. Is this enough? I still just can't believe this.
So do know who these OW are? Are they married?


FWW/BW (me)
WH
2nd M for both
Blended Family with 7 kids between us
Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by newtopia
ok here's what I got. Did the wondershare, it came up with a few of the texts. he was clearly at the bar. Talking to two women clearly. One text said from one woman said "if you give your D to everyone till it hurts you are gonna have a big problem"

After further snooping on his phone I found the moment app. Funny thing this was put on forever ago by both of us for no real reason. It shows where his phone was at and for how long. At the bar until 4am more than once(pretty sure they close at 2) and it looks like he may have stayed at her house overnight. AND that was the night before he came home! frown Funny thing he has her name in his phone as last name C and it is really S.(first name is correct) Both numbers are still in phone as unblocked. Neither have texted since the 17th. This, the texting log of 140 texts, smoking in his hotel room. Is this enough? I still just can't believe this.

Ok, next step is to expose the affair. Go read my Exposure 101 thread and start exposing it.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
They are not to what I can see. One is around our same age(40) and the other is 24. Both single and have no signs of a boyfriend from what I can gather on fb. Spokeo says single too.

Last edited by newtopia; 03/23/16 06:34 AM. Reason: spelling
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Originally Posted by newtopia
ok here's what I got. Did the wondershare, it came up with a few of the texts. he was clearly at the bar. Talking to two women clearly. One text said from one woman said "if you give your D to everyone till it hurts you are gonna have a big problem"

After further snooping on his phone I found the moment app. Funny thing this was put on forever ago by both of us for no real reason. It shows where his phone was at and for how long. At the bar until 4am more than once(pretty sure they close at 2) and it looks like he may have stayed at her house overnight. AND that was the night before he came home! frown Funny thing he has her name in his phone as last name C and it is really S.(first name is correct) Both numbers are still in phone as unblocked. Neither have texted since the 17th. This, the texting log of 140 texts, smoking in his hotel room. Is this enough? I still just can't believe this.

Ok, next step is to expose the affair. Go read my Exposure 101 thread and start exposing it.

Would I talk to him first and see if he confesses? Or just tell everyone else first? I have read and read half the night and I feel confused on that part. Thanks.

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,473
Likes: 5
B
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 20,473
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by newtopia
They are not to what I can see. One is around our same age(40) and the other is 24. Both single and have no signs of a boyfriend from what I can gather on fb. Spokeo says single too.
Have you copied their Facebook friend's list and saved it?


FWW/BW (me)
WH
2nd M for both
Blended Family with 7 kids between us
Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
I'm working on that today.

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by newtopia
[

Would I talk to him first and see if he confesses? Or just tell everyone else first? I have read and read half the night and I feel confused on that part. Thanks.

You would expose first. Actually you don't need his confession. You already know the truth. After you expose the affair wide and affair, I would DEMAND that he end his affair today and agree to never see this woman again. He would need to agree to implement the extraordinary precautions on this checklist. If he won't do that, then you should ask him to move out.

From Surviving an Affair, pg 66-67

The extraordinary precautions do more than end marriage-threatening affairs; they help a couple form the kind of relationship they always wanted.

These recommendations may seem rigid, unnecessarily confining, and even paranoid to those who have not been the victim of infidelity. But people like Sue and Jon, who have suffered unimaginable pain as a result of an affair that spun out of control, can easily see their value. For the inconvenience of following my advice, Sue would have spared herself and Jon the very worst experience of their lives.


Checklist for How Affairs Should End

_____The unfaithful spouse should reveal information about the affair to the betrayed spouse.

_____The unfaithful spouse should make a commitment to the betrayed spouse to never see or talk to the lover OP again.

_____The unfaithful spouse should write a letter to the lover OP ending the relationship and send it with the approval of the betrayed spouse.

_____The unfaithful spouse should take extraordinary precautions to guarantee total separation from the lover OP:

_____Block potential communication with the lover OP (change e-mail address and home and cell phone numbers, and close all social networking accounts; have voice messages and mail monitored by the betrayed spouse).

_____Account for time (betrayed spouse and wayward spouse give each other a twenty-four-hour daily schedule with locations and telephone numbers).

_____Account for money (betrayed spouse and wayward spouse give each other a complete account of all money spent).

_____Spend leisure time together.

_____Change jobs and relocate if necessary.

_____Avoid overnight separation.

_____Allow technical accountability.

_____ Expose affair to family members, clergy, and/or friends.



"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1
M
Member
Offline
Member
M
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 92,985
Likes: 1


Originally Posted by Dr Bill Harley
My advice is to write a final letter in a way that the victimized spouse would agree to send it. It should begin with a statement of how selfish it was to cause those they loved so much pain, and while marital reconciliation cannot completely repay the offense, it's the right thing to do. A statement should be made about how much the unfaithful spouse cares about his spouse and family, and for their protection, has decided to completely end the relationship with the lover. He or she has promised never to see or communicate with the lover again in life, and asks the lover to respect that promise. Nothing should be said about how much the lover will be missed. After the letter is written, the victimized spouse should read and approve it before it is sent.
here


[from SAA, pg 58]

OW, I want you to know that out of respect and love for my wife and children, I have come to realize that I must never see or talk to you again. My relationship with you was a cruel indulgence that BS did not deserve. While I cannot completely repay BS for the pain I caused her, I will do my best to become the husband she has been missing. I care a great deal for my family and I would not want to do anything to risk their happiness. I will not make any further contact with you and I do not want you to make any contact with me. Please respect my desire to end our relationship.

Sincerely, XXXXX



"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
thank you!

Also on the exposure, He can get leave work and get home within about 10 min. Thoughts on that?? I have no doubt he would leave, come home and try to stop me. And I feel it may take hours for the exposure. I thought about waiting until after bedtime. Then everyone will wake up to the same messages. Or I can try to leave. Of course my car is in the shop.

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
how is this??

Dear friends and family,

I am writing you this message because you are an important person in the lives of xxxxx and I. Two weeks ago xxxxx had told me that he wanted a separation and to move out which has shattered my heart. To my utter shock, I am saddened to have discovered that during this separation he has been carrying on an affair with two women named xyz and 1234. All the while telling me that he was working on our marriage. As our friends and family, I am asking that you use your influence with xxxxx to persuade him to end his affair and try to work on our marriage. Our marriage can be salvaged if he would only end the affair. Please support him in doing the right thing. Please support our marriage.

I would so appreciate your support and prayers.

Warmest regards,

xxx

Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,391
L
Member
Offline
Member
L
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,391
You could go to your Public Library and use a computer there to do all of the exposures and turn yourbcell phone off in case he tries to blow it up with angry messages.

Make sure you first have copied all of the Friends List contact information and save that as a Word Document prior to starting the exposures.

Do you have the two other women's nanes and Facebook listings to get their friends lists too?

LTL

Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
N
Member
OP Offline
Member
N
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 100
It is done! I am beyond relieved. It worked like magic. I cannot thank everyone on here enough. My husband has already sent a letter to them stating he wants nothing to do with them ever again. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.

Page 4 of 16 1 2 3 4 5 6 15 16

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Search
Who's Online Now
1 members (TALKINGNONSENSE), 493 guests, and 62 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
ScreamArt, BibleBeliever, JhocelinDeschamp, Elysia007, coursefpx
71,915 Registered Users
Latest Posts
Question for those who have done coaching
by Blackhawk - 12/12/24 11:08 PM
Newbie here. Advice appreciated. MLC??
by Dynamiq - 12/06/24 05:02 PM
Separation
by BrainHurts - 11/27/24 08:59 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics133,618
Posts2,323,473
Members71,916
Most Online3,185
Jan 27th, 2020
Building Marriages That Last A Lifetime
Copyright © 2024, Marriage Builders, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Site Navigation
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5