I'm printing this out in the next few seconds for my wife to read, and then I'm running to the grocery store!!! <P>cjack - you are right on the <B>$$$$</B>

I can't belive this thread is still going on.

Yeah! I'm with you Empty Shell,<P>This really SUCKS! Whoops ... <P>If the spouse tastes like what one has consumed of late then poor ole' OW, I cooked Cappino many many nights for H during 8 mos of Plan A. HE loved it (Italian boy), but OW kept leaving msgs that H smelled like FISH! Really pissed her off ... she made derogatory(sp) comments about me. Said I needed to go back to the Doctor, but not just for my cancer ... but for my FISH. <P>She has such a vulgar mouth.<P>So advice to the BS's that are cooking for WS, if you want to make the OP wonder what the h*ll your spouse is eating and WHY do they smell like "FISH", cook em' some Cappino. Causes guaranteed LB from the OP. Just ask Lora!<P>Recipes avail upon request.<P>JoJo<p>[This message has been edited by Resilient (edited July 23, 2000).]

OMIGOSH!!!<P> I read the title of this thread,and thought,"That can't be what they're talking about",and sure enough it is! <P> You're right,Butterfly,<BR> ShowerMassager is out,and ready to chase Lora,and Daisy all over WA state! <P> ~~Murph

I just have to respond.....<P>If you or your spouse has a wife that is good with this topic.....<P>COUNT YOUSELF AS LUCKY!!!!<P>Maybe my luck will change one day....<P>LOL!!!<P>Anyone have a book I can buy for my wife!<P>You all take care.....

I never knew that there were this many woman out there that hated it as much as I did but here is a <B>BIG HOWDY</B> to all of you.<P>I don't like it either and I can't imagine any concocktion {no punt intended} making it any better. <P>I just have a big problem with the thought of millions of little creatures swimming around in <B>mouth</B>. Nasty isn't it? But it is alot nastier to do it than it is to talk about it...lololol.<P>Anyway, I am not sure but I do know that the OW was a swallower and according to my H, it wasn 't that big of a turn on for him; but there is the distinct possibility that he is lying to me that is.<P>Doesn't matter though, because that is something that I refuse to do. YUCK YUCK YUCK<P>But thanks for all the laughs...lol<BR>Genie

Ha! Thanks for the laughs - loved the joke!<P>Delilah - Tell us more about the Altoids...like when, etc...<P>Thanks, A

OK, I've avoided replying to this thread. The reason being, it's been a pretty long time and I didn't want to sound to desperate or excited! (i.e...I'll do it!!)<P>But...it's really not that bad. Once you do it a few times, you get used to the taste! And that's all I'm gonna say!!!! LMAO<P>Mitzi

Okay, this may be really sad, but once I get past that first little gag, it's not that bad. And, it doesn't matter to me that much if I swallow or spit. I still end up with the taste in my mouth. It wouldn't be much better though if the taste ever went away, but I swear it lasts forever. And, I can never drink water afterwards that just makes it worse. I have to head straight for the Listerine. But then, I'm fine. But, hey, what is a little bit of bad taste compared to the great rush your H gets knowing that your willing to do this intimate deed? It's well worth it to me to know that I am filling one of his big ENs. I don't know if I could ever get him to try the shake.<P>Marie, do you think that the egg beaters would work? And honey, I bet that is interesting--and I love honey straight.

Okay, call me naive. When I first read the title to this thread, I thought it had something to do with pride!!(To swallow your PRIDE or not to swallow your PRIDE) <P>Getting past the initial shock, my H doesn't care - swallow/spit whatever - as long as he can get some "extra attention" occasionally. <P>My feeling, it tastes more like what I imagine Whale Oil would taste like.<P>On the upside, I have had a horrible sinus infection. I am able to breathe, but I have temporarily lost my sense of smell. Occasionally, I get depressed that I "don't have my sniffers." But my H loves it, because I am more willing to go south than normal if I can't smell - it also affects the taste, I think.<P>So what happens when my "sniffers" come back? Guess I'll put a clothes pin on my nose or go into the Shake business.

<BR>Semen is mainly composed of sugar. Drink something extremely sweet immediately before & immediately after doing the deed (e.g., try regular Pepsi). The sweet drink beforehand will deaden your taste sensation of the less-sweet glucose in semen, much like a flashlight shone in the eyes will ruin night vision for a period of time. And the sweet drink afterwards will easily overpower the less-sweet taste of semen.<P>On the dietary side, reduce caffeine & red meat consumption, and increase the intake of zinc.<P>Bystander<BR>

Cjack and F A<P>I think you may be partially right. But I think it might have more to do with a feeling of rejection than an instinct of repoduction. <P>To spit--I kind of liken it to somebody going "ptooey!" and scrubbing their mouth after you've kissed them.<P>I'm sure alot of us women here feel the same way in the "reverse situation".<P>Who wants some aspect of their body to be thought of as repulsive? Especially one aspect that proves you're a "manly man"?<P>I think that's why for some, it's an EN. And I think OW may instinctively know this and meet it with gusto. <P>For those of you who feel this thread brings you pain, I'm sorry--but if the title of it didn't sound any alarms, you would've had ample warning from the first sentence in! <P>But do you think we should we have a warning label on our topics? What would you suggest?<P>Marie--tried the honey before, among other condiments. Yummy but always a qualified mess. Maybe an instruction should be added<BR>to attempt this only on the kitchen table. <P>Anne, (correct me if wrong, Delilah) the mints are supposed to be chewed or sucked on right before any fun starts--nothing as unromantic as having to do the hiemlick manuever during intimacy!<P>There's a joke that goes with that but I will refrain. <P><BR>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lapeine:<BR><B><BR>Marie, do you think that the egg beaters would work? And honey, I bet that is interesting--and I love honey straight.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>YES! Eggbeaters will definitely work---JUST DON'T COOK THEM!!!!---keep them in liquid "form".<P>Here's the conversion:<BR>3 TBSP of thawed frozen egg product (ie: Egg beaters) is equivalent to 1 whole egg. Or, check the carton...may vary according to product !<P>~Marie<BR>

Ann and Leilana, <P>An Altoid is so tiny, that I eat about half of it before, and then tuck away the last little bit to melt away during the fun.<P>This is funny to be talking about here, but since I'm on the subject, a menthol cough drop consumed directly before, can be *lots* of fun for both parties. The Kama-Sutra, oil of love potion, is also pretty special for a sweet flavor, and a serious kind of tastebud numbing tingle. <P>Delilah

I too wondered when I saw the title if it was literal, and yes.<P>Ok, I have a question, I'm just dying to know.<P>Do some men still want oral even if sex is great?? Is it just different?? Should I worry if he seems happy as a clam without it?

Dear Schizzo:<P>Quote: <BR>"Bad and oral sex don't occur in the same sentence." ~unknown male<P>Is there such a thing as a man who doesn't like it???? <P>BTW, more info on dietary issues:<P>After eating foods such as melon, kiwi, pineapples, celery, or strawberries, men's semen will have a lighter, sweeter taste.<P>After eating red meat, semen will be slightly thicker/gummier. Beer and hard liquor also tend to produce a bitter, unpleasant taste...as will smoking of ANY SORT. Additionally, medications/vitamins can sometimes change the taste/consistency of semen.<P>Semen contains the simple sugar fructose, and one ejaculation probably contains about 6 calories.<P>Source: "How to be a Great Lover" ~Lou Paget<P>~Marie

Ok, gotta jump back in here on the Altoid mint thing.... (a tip for all you guys out there!)....<P>It works both ways! Women enjoy that sensation too!!!! <P>*SIGH* Someday..... maybe..... *SIGH <P>Flutterby

SKM,<BR>I'm so suprised nobody jumped on your "whale oil" analogy. What, nobody has any "sperm whale" or "Moby [censored]" jokes?!<P>Delilah,<BR>My H is 6'2" with VERY big feet. There's no ROOM in there for a even a "tiny piece of altoid" ! <P>Genie 29,<BR> My H says OW was a master at oral sex and a swallower to boot. The vaginal sex was unsatisfying, kind of loose and shallow--his words! No cracks about her personality, please!! He maintains that "regular" sex with me is and always has been better than any sex with her, oral or otherwise.<P>Before the A I had offered to swallow--but when I gagged he said I no longer had to try--it was o.k. And I'm sure it was but I feel I was a bit handicapped in this area as well as the other EN's I wasn't meeting that OW was.<P>My point, and I do have one, is that men in general probably enjoy vaginal sex more but there is a very geisha/harem maiden/sex-slavish component to oral sex. It's fantasy/play stuff. It's very visual. It's pampering. It's giving. I think that's why OW love to do it so much. It makes men ( I assume) feel like a samurai/arab sheik/god. Or at least very adored. (When my H does this for me, I feel worshipped!) If it's a man's EN, swallowing is probably a multiplication factor for the love units deposited! <P>Oral sex vs. vaginal: Your H probably would enjoy, say, steak and lobster for dinner. But serve it every nite and after a while he might yearn for a good old PBJ!<P>As a woman, I'm not always in the mood for this "menu item"--but just the fact that he wants to enough to offer makes me feel loved.<P> If my H was repulsed/turned off by it, I think I would tell him it didn't matter to me as well--and mean it. There ARE alot of alternatives. <P>But then be prepared to plug your ears and runaway screaming if an OM comes up to you and says you are so beautiful and you must please let him do this for you or he will just die!! <P>Somebody asked for a book here for their W...I used to have several but they've gotten dusty (I was a 15 yr old virgin when I met my H--I had to do alot of self-learning over the years!). "How to Drive Your Man Wild in Bed" by Graham Masterson, I believe, is one. Warning: Not for those with sensitive sensibilities or faint of heart! He also wrote one for driving your WOMAN wild in bed--I'd get that one first, Dude--or if you're a woman who doesn't know what to ask for! "101 Wild Nites" is another. Oh, there are thousands out there in the self help/sexuality section of your local bookstore or library. Or online, I'm sure--if that's easier for you.<P>Well, I'm off to the store for eggbeaters, a fruit basket and a case of pepsi! <P>Thanx for the great tips, guys. Ooh, everything has a connotation now!!<BR> <p>[This message has been edited by Leilana (edited July 24, 2000).]

My H is 6'2" with VERY big feet. There's no ROOM for a "tiny piece of altoid!" <P>Pretty funny, maybe I just have a big mouth. - though I always heard that thumb size was the greater indicator of "thangs". (big toe, thumb - what's the difference, anyway!) <P>I agree, that there is more an element of excitement and fantasy going on in affairs - more sex in general, probably. Affairs aren't real life feeling, (very few become that), and I think the feelings of high romance, being swept away sexually, lend itself to the variation. Sex in marriage can become too "everyday, ho hum, can we do that tomorrow instead?!!" Too much taking for granted going on - at least there was in my marriage.<P>BTW, I have both of those books by G. Masterson, and think that reading (good) erotica before "bed" can be wonderful foreplay. <P>Delilah<P>

I must be dense, I just always enjoyed giving pleasure to my H, no matter how. I guess my main complaint is that I don't think he likes reciprocating to me! I find that it turns me on to see him get so worked up. My problem is that I don't think he enjoys returning the favor....<BR>Anyhow, the OW never would do that with him. He told me she was kinda like one of those blow up dolls, she would just lay there and smile at him. He said he likes how "active" I am at making love with him.<BR>I just wish I could get him to loosen up a little in this arena, he's so uptight about talking to me about it and we are both kind of shy (believe it or not, I am, it's taken me 10 years of living with him to get to this point!) Shouldn't there be a manual out there with hints on how to handle this????? <BR><P>------------------<BR>Chick's <BR>Bren<P>You won't see things until your ready to not be blind!