Yes .... it was on women.com which no longer exists .... it was bought out by ivillage.com .... don't even get me started ..... the board went from being honest and vibrant to muddy, politically correct , not worth a dime garbage.

There I go again, sugar-coating my opinion! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />

Jake posted THAT poem to me (only he and I knew it was to me) on ivillage .... and the censors immediately removed it for vulgar language!!! How stupid is that? They encourage the support for affairs .... as long as things are said very politely .... and with no substance.

I know one of the ivillage OW (she was briefly a forum moderator) has come to MB and posted a few times .... under the guise of a different name .... she cried "Oooooh, rude!" when she was given opinions she did not appreciate. The way things are expressed are far more important that the ideals behind the words (on ivillage)..... I just can't stomach that.

I agree.

Selfishly, I am glad it went "ka-poot" because I appreciate your frankness and honesty here. We all do.

You are missed when your MOJO is not working. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

I am not afraid of hearing what I don't want to hear. Otherwise how will we ever learn and grow?

<small>[ March 01, 2003, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Susan ]</small>

I haven't fixed my M yet either, so I also don't really know if it will be harder than raising my kids. What I meant is that even CHOICES come in different sizes. For me, being responsible for the nurturing of a non-adult was the most important job I've done. As adults, most of us can take care of ourselves, take responsibility for ourselves (although with varying degrees of success). Raising a child, wanting to set them on the right path for THEM requires knowing yourself, which is difficult, and knowing the child, too, which is even more difficult. For example, sometimes, especially with intelligent teenagers, the straight and narrow path isn't enough, doesn't teach enough about actions and consequences, and personal responsibility, so the questions about when to let go and when to hold on become crucial. As Bob Dylan wrote, "to live outside the law you must be honest". Don't get me wrong, neither of my kids got into trouble with the law, just pushed some boundaries sometimes.

If my M fails then I will have to live with it, it's important to me, yes, and also to my children and family, but I will survive. The 'kids' are grown, on their own, making their own CHOICES. If I failed as a parent, though, then another human being, one who was entrusted to my care, is harmed and to me that is harder to deal with.

OK, I gotta do some chores, it's hard to tear myself away from all this good stuff. Keep it coming!!!

Lablady