Oh, Sweetie, sometimes it just seems like too much, doesn't it?<P>Just wanted you to know that I'm here. Finally got on and got your e-mail and I'm answering it TODAY!<P>Hang in there.<P>Love,<P>Lori

Dylan<BR>So glad to hear from you!<P>I did the epileptic dog route with my Springer Spaniel. It was probably a brain tumor as well. I did some research at the time. If there's anything I can help you with please E-mail me - mmawilliams@hotmail.com.<P>Thinking of you!<BR>wassi

Dylan, I know how you feel. Sort of. <P>We have a cat with congestive heart failure, and we almost lost him in December. He was on 60mg daily of Diltiazem, and got sicker and sicker and sicker. The morning of his euthanasia appointment (!) I didn't give him the Dilt. When my H arrived home in the afternoon, the cat was leaping around, eating like a horse, and fine.<P>45 minutes before his "last ride", we called the vet to cancel.<P>Six months later, he's still with us, and doing OK on half the dose of the Dilt.<P>I know we're on borrowed time with him, just as you are with your dog. But now you have a reprieve. Whether days, weeks, or months, just enjoy him and give him a lot of love until HE tells you he's ready.

When I first got married I had a Yorkie (my baby) that came along with me in the marriage. After a few years we noticed that she was sleeping alot and wasn't very peppy....she was 15 years old. Took her to the vet and they told me her kidneys were failing and her heart was bad. The very next day.....I found her dragging her legs behind her.<P>I made an appointment that day to have her put to sleep. I made my stbx do it....I couldn't. I remember him coming home with tears in his eyes. It was so sad.<P>Now I have 3 yorkies and am now done breeding. We have went through 6 litters of puppies and have seen many die. It is heartwrenching and it hurts each and every time.<P>That is why I am done breeding...I have had enough sorrow to last a life time.<P>Nancy

Soulloss,<P>I just want you to know that I know exactly how you feel.<P>Both my W and I came into the marriage w/dogs. Hers was a purebred Siberian Huskey, a beautiful girl, Sasha, our little sweety. Unfortunately, she was epileptic, since 6 months old, also on meds, along w/a special diet to try to control her seizures. <P>For the last two and a half years it has been my job to sleep downstairs on the couch whenever she was having seizures so that I could hold her to keep her from banging into the furniture or the floor and hurting herself. I did this every two to three months for usually four nights. During her peak night she would have three or four seizures at a time roughly two to three hours apart. Not much time for sleep<P>Sasha had been to the vet numerous times when she was young to have all kinds of neurological tests to try to determine the cause of her seizures without any luck. The vet told my W that except for the epilepsy, Sasha was fine and would probably live a normal lifespan.<P>Tuesday, April 25 was my night to have our S. Sasha had started this particular episode Sunday night which meant that Tuesday would be a busy night. At 9:00pm She had two quick seizures and then lay on the floor recovering. I went back upstairs to use the computer, came down about an hour later to go to bed. I gave our other dog his nightly treat and as Sasha appeared to be asleep, I left her alone and went to sleep on the couch.<P>About 2:30am my S (almost 2) woke up for his nightly bottle and while I was upstairs, I realized that it had been five hours since Sasha's last seizure. Back downstairs I discovered, of course, that her heart had given out, and that she had probably already been gone when I went to bed as she was already stiff.<P>At 2:30 in the morning I had to call my W and tell her that her dog had died.<P>The next day we buried her in my W's parents' back yard.<P>My neighbor's S (9 days younger than mine), when asked where Sasha is, will point up into the sky.<P>Just remember that "All Dogs Go to Heaven", and when yours does, you will have the best guardian angel ever.<P>Sorry for the length, must go as I can't see the screen.<P>Steve<P>

soulloss,<BR> I'm so sorry about your dog. What IS her name? What kind of dog? Tell me about her. <P> I know that pain. I cried for my dog Bullet ALL night. She was a great dog (she came with the name??) People will tell you that you can just get another dog. WE know differently don't we. They become part of the family. Part of our memories and us. You ALMOST lost a little part of YOU today. It wasn't your fault. <BR> I'm a little weird but, I always picture when I get to Heaven that the dogs I've lost will be running to the pearly gate to meet me. It just wouldn't be Heaven without them.<BR> <BR>FRANK<P>MY UPDATE!! I DIDN'T READ YOUR UPDATE BEFORE I POSTED THIS!! Hey, that is great news. I'll pray she pulls through!! If not try and find the poem "A Dog's Prayer" It is pretty easy to find. I'd send you a copy but, of course my W has it!!! It will make you feel a little better. ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE A COPY???<P> GOOD LUCK & PRAYERS FRANK<p>[This message has been edited by PLEASE HELP (edited May 23, 2000).]

Losing a pet is one of the hardest things we have to go through. It doesn't matter how they leave us, it hurts. <P>I adopted a litle mutt from the ASPCA about 8 years before I met and married my husband. She and I were a team...I took her everywhere with me. I still swear she understood me when I talked to her. <P>Six months before I met my husband she developed a heart murmur. Over the next eighteen months she went steadily down hill to the point where I was giving her meds 4 times a day and even then she was not herself. The vet was amazed that she had lasted as long as she had. <P>A month before my wedding I took her to the vet and had her put down. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done and I sit here with tears in my eyes as I type. I know though that it was the right decision. <P>Something that I read around that time helped me get through it and I thought I would share it with you. It's pretty well know so I'm sure some of you will have read it. <P>Dylan, my heart goes out to you at this difficult time.<P>Rainbow Bridge<P>Just this side of Heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. <P>There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and<BR>sunshine and our friends are warm and comfortable. <P>All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing: they each miss someone very special, someone who was left behind. <P>They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; his eager body begins to quiver. Suddenly, he breaks from the group, flying over the green grass, faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into those trusting eyes, so long gone from your life, but never absent from your heart.<P>Then you cross the Rainbow Bridge together...<P>*Author Unknown*

JodiC,<P>That was beautiful.

AstrongerMe<P>Thank you for your kind thoughts…..I was a virtual recluse and unable to function for a good 2-3 months after discovery…I know whereof you speak…..still am at times….it comes and goes…..<P><BR> Mitzi<P>How's the job?…and the kids?….thanks for the hugs….I'm saving some of them for later….<P><BR> NoTrust<P>Hey there girlfriend……yeah, we often find ourselves in those twilight zone places of similarity…I wan't to find the new me..or rather, create the new me, because the old me is not what I want to be anymore..the old me is the me that H betrayed…..if he betrayed 'her' once, he could betray 'her' again…she was not what I want to be any longer….please don't cry…..I hate it when I make people cry…especially good friends….well, ok, cry..but let me join in, then we can hug, and get on with improving us!!<P>NSR<P>(((((((((((((((JIM)))))))))))))<BR>I know you love her, but I still say your wife is nuts….you are such a good, good man….thank you for missing me, (didn't know I was missed) but I feel that unless I have something positive to contribute, I'll just stay out of everyone's way…lol….<P>And I know I am loved…..and I am so very lucky and grateful for it…..<P> wasstubborn<P>((((((((((WASSI))))))))))))<BR>oh sweetie……you have had to live this pet nightmare too?…..jeez…..could we have been living in parallel universes all this time and never met? …it's like that star trek episode…..but you get to be spock cause you are so much more logical than me…LOL…<P>you are right though. I AM exhausted ….by everything… the seizures are hard to watch and endure…I know that the vet says she can't feel anything….but still….it's difficult to convey the images to those who have never experienced it….and the discombobulation that follows along with the period of blindness where she walks into things, falls down, froths at the mouth, etc…breaks down a little part of me each time… the frantic whining she does..it breaks my heart <P> \\I think sometimes we try to be strong and the crap festers inside\\<BR>honey then I need to drink a whole bottle of hydrogen peroxide…LOL…….<P><BR> hanora<P>I am so glad you didn't leave…..((((((((hanora)))))))….I have been walking…and you are right..it helps….. <P>MENTAL<P>With everything that the [censored] is pulling on you…you still have the time to respond to me..thank you…and yes, when it rains it pours..and then my roof usually leaks…….sigh…<P>At least you know that you are not worthless and not a pig and not a fat-[censored]….what a jerk he is….<BR>You take care of you and your girls…as you have been doing….I got your e-mail but have had no time to respond yet…if you need help with that 19 page report, just let me know..we'll figure out a way….<P><BR>(((((((((SHEBA))))))))<P>are you still breathing……???….how damaged is the punching bag??…did you put his photo on it..with 'ITS NOT MY GODDAMNED FAULT' in magic marker under the photo??<P>Is Chernobyl your fault too?…and didn't I see you tinkering with JKF Jr's plane before take-off?..and aren't you responsible for the movie Ishtar??….hey is that volcano your fault too??…I just want to be clear on who to blame for what…..<P>Hey, at least we had our meltdowns at the same time….that must be your fault too..LOL<P>If you ever come up to Canada…I am waiting for those hugs in person…..<P>See, if you had been e-mailing me, you would have realized sooner how lagging behind we were….<P>Friends will understand..at least I'm hoping they will….sometimes retreating is best for the soul….I left the vodka alone…..tipsy alone is ok…tipsy with a seizing dog…very bad…as I always say to Nicole, big fruit drinks with umbrellas in 'em, made from hollowed out pineapples….I still have my 'crazy straws' !!!!!!!..LOL…I'm hanging on….you hang on too….<BR> <P> new_beginning<P>((((((((((Sheryl)))))))))))<P>you do understand..I know….I'm sending extra hugs to you…..<P>my quilt is apparently king-size by now..lol…..don't you EVER apologize for being 'busy' with your pain..you have endured and still endure so much….if you didn't realize the depth of my pain, it's because I never let on, sweetie….that martyr complex, you know..help others, fix them, and through that will come my self-healing…..well, I was wrong…I buried and hid in the cave….how could you know what I did not let you know??/…please don't add guilt to your overload of things you are dealing with…I love ya…and I am starting her shrine while she is still here with us….<P>(((((((((Peppermint)))))))<P>I was going to ask, hey, where the heck have you and firestorm been…but I won't, seeing the content of your response..I understand…<P>You are so right about even the smallest thing seeming insurmountable…and there are times where I shake my head, knowing that were it not for the 'headspace' I am in, I could deal with it all….but not anymore….<P>You are also so correct about nothing being the same anymore and it never will be again….and I am so affected by that..I know, something new will replace what once was, but I am still mourning the loss…I understand the anchor analogy…I feel more like I was tossed right off the friggen boat with out one of those lifesaving donut things…..and I can only dogpaddle…and those really bug waves keep hitting me in the face, so I can only breathe every so often…<P>Before the cave, I had a pit…and I too would keep sliding back in after hanging on by my fingernails…<P>Yes, I do love him, you are right about that too....if I didn't, it would not hurt like this, and frankly, I wouldn't be here….but then, neither would you..firestorm is lucky….very lucky….if your theory is correct, that the depth of the pain mirrors the depth of the love, then Deut is one of the most loved men on the planet….<P>If both Deut and I return here, you AND firestorm have to as well….so there…LOL…you again, are right..we were doing much better when we both posted, I found it gave me insight into what was going on in his mind, and when he stopped posting I felt almost like he was comfortable with where we were and no longer felt the need to help me….to him, being here was part of a penance..helping others and reading here to pay for his sins..<P><BR> Khyra<P>Hello there beautiful pregnant person !!! thank you for your kind words….you guys are in my heart…all of you….there is never a question in my mind about putting my heart into anything…I just do..you matter so much…and I meant it when I said to ease up on yourself….the guilt is not proactive..it cannot help you, therefore banish it..it keeps you stunted….you cannot let it eat you up and stop you from growing….<P> ((((((((((((((((((((((((( fallen_angel)))))))))))))))))))<P>I can't even find the words to express to you how I feel….I read your response and bawled my eyes out….Deut asked me what was going on, and I told him you responded to me and he gave me a big hug and said that you would probably want him to pass it on for you…<P>You have not been out of my thoughts for even a day……believe me….not one day…<P>The problem though is that the more I back away, the harder it is to move on after awhile…how easy it is to say …"well, I haven't written in x number of weeks, I can't just pick up where we left off'…and then you just don't …because of embarassment..no other reason…NO OTHER REASON…….<P>I think it will hurt until we are ready for it not to hurt anymore…they are both sorry….you know that…the healing is within us to do now…..I feel like I just need a 'lull' from all the chaos to really begin..there is ALWAYS too much going on…something more important or more urgent….<P>Again, my friend,…my apologies….i never wanted or meant to hurt your feelings….i wanted to bethere for you, but couldn't even be there for myself…I will not justify it..I backed away, and am humbly asking that if you can forgive me, I would love to be able to call you friend again….<P><BR>Dylan<BR><P>------------------<BR>"The journey into darkness has been long and cruel, and you have gone deep into it."<BR>~ A Course in Miracles

Aaaahhh……(((((((((((Bill)))))))))))<BR>My friend, I'm trying……we're holding on….and I still have to get that Url for you, you are one of those I have been remiss about as well…..I want Deut to read your response…I'll let you know what he says…..<P>(((((((((((((Nicole)))))))))<P>I know, I know….you are no longer posting here..but you may lurk from time to time and I still want to thank you..and to tell you that I am sorry that you feel you must leave here….and the reason for it…. It saddens me that they who are already cruel can even be more unthinking and heartless…. Be patient…..Karma will treat those in kind… <P> <BR> ((((((((((((((((HurtButCoping))))))))))))))<P>thank you….knowing you know how I feel does a lot for me…..I had no idea so many of us had 'pet problems'…..h and I are discussing what course of action to take, and I must admit that I am leaning towards putting her down…..she is not the same dog….the blindness after a seizure and her disorientation is almost more difficult to bear than the seizures themselves…..also compounding the problem is that our last dog was hit and killed by a car last year….this will severely affect the kids…the loss of 2 dogs and a cat (old age) in the past 2 years is going to get to them too…..I just so want this dog to be ok..see, if it were epilepsy, I might be able to deal with it…it is a condition, and medically treatable in most cases, but this is slowly watching my beloved pet die and suffer while waiting for it…<P>the hot fudge does sound like comfort food…but H got really excited…he did think it was for me….lol<P><BR> <BR> ((((((((((((((((( lostva)))))))))))))))<P>ah, my goddess of wisdom…..yes, sometimes, it does seem like too much, and I guess I can't handle as much as I used to while my head is clouded with all the festering crap that Wassi was talking about….I'll just have to learn how… ..do you give courses or seminars on plan-a-ing???…sign me up…<P><BR> <BR> ((((((((((Dazed and Confused))))))))))))<P>where have you been?!?!?!!?!?….oh, yeah, I was the one not around…never mind…it is so good to see you…..very good to see you…..are you doing ok??…<P>I'm taking your advice…..enjoying her every minute I can….and I hold her during her seizures….and it calms her down..not easy as she is a huge black lab/bernese mix…and only a year old….her last seizure the other night was a good one…while she was sleeping, and she went right on sleeping after….<P>Beerman2<P>((((((((((((Steve)))))))))))))<BR>Oh man, I am so very very very very sorry for your loss…..strange…april 25 was a very big seizure day for Char (Charmander..the kids named her after their fave pokemon)..maybe it was something in the air…a big hug to you and your W…..Thank you for sharing your story….thank you for your kind words as well…<P>Do you have any info on that special diet?..I am willing to try anything….even if it is a brain tumor….i have to feel like I am trying to help her somehow…..Deut (my H) sleeps on the couch with her as well at times….now we keep her in the room with us and close the door….I can jump right out of bed if she needs me….my biggest fear is that her heart will not give out, that she will not go peacefully, and that she will go into status….a never-ending seizure…I have an emergency syringe in case, but it is still my fear…. <P> <BR> PLEASE HELP<BR> ((((((((Frank)))))))))<BR>you have so much to deal with as well...those papers and all….you just keep doing what is best is for you….you too, like Jim are a good man…..I can't believe you took the time to respond to my post….thank you so very much….<P>As I described above, Char is a very large, happy, rambunctious puppy…black as night and about a year old….we took her in when she was found abandoned by the side of the highway (she was hiding behind a dumpster for 7 days)..she had been abused and was so very trusting and happy to be part of our family…when our first dog was hit and killed by a car, that pain was so huge, I swore no more dogs….Char looked at me, and I caved…..this is killing me…..she thinks she is one of those lap dogs….but she weighs 100 pounds and sits on you anyway and licks your face until you need a towel…she jumps up and her paws reach my shoulders, and she does a pretty mean rhumba…<P>Frank, I understand..i can't see 'just getting another dog'….<P> <P><BR> (((((((((((((( JodiC)))))))))<P>thank you…I'll print that up and make it part of her eventual shrine….thank you Jodi…..<P><BR>Dylan<P><BR><P>------------------<BR>"The journey into darkness has been long and cruel, and you have gone deep into it."<BR>~ A Course in Miracles

a special thank you to cat.... <P>------------------<BR>"The journey into darkness has been long and cruel, and you have gone deep into it."<BR>~ A Course in Miracles

just a note, i did not read the whole thread, but my SIL was planning to stick out her "horrible" marriage until her kids were out of school, but then the dog died, and as soon as that happened, she was out of there.<BR>i think pets really do tie a family together, sometimes.<BR>im sorry for your loss,<BR>julie

Dylan<BR>Please don't forget to take care of yourself.<BR>Please!!!!!!!!<P>Now I didn't read all the info cause I'm in between soccer fields.<P>Are there any pre-seizures signs? They are very subtle but much like the disorientation that comes after.<BR>My Kelly used to look at her reflection in the oven door and bark. She usually had a seizure within half an hour. If I caught it and cuddled with her, the seizures seemed milder. Maybe my imagination but I think it helped both of us.<P>Thinking of you. I can just feel the heartbreak of this. <P>How much phenobarb is she on? Close to max?<P>Hang in girl, my prayers are with you.

Dylan,<P>I don't know how much of this helped Sasha, but here is everything we tried.<P>She was not allowed to have any wheat in her diet. Appearantly, many dogs have an allergic reaction to it. You will find this will severely limit your choice of dog food and treats. Also, her protein intake was limited, we gave her the Nutro for older dogs. For treats she could have the Nutro cookies, rawhide, and Pup-er-oni jerky treats. You will also find that all of this is more expensive than regular dog food. No more bargain bin stuff for her. I am not sure what effect (if any) this had. The vet said that he had seen dogs with severe epilepsy fully recover with just a change in diet.<P>As far as medication, she was on Primidone. We gave her 375mg daily, evenly split between her morning and evening meals. Also, we gave her Gaba-Plus by Twinlab. This is one of those memory improvement things. We started this after driving home one night and Sasha having violent seizures starting the next day. The vet thought that perhaps she was becoming disoriented with all the reflections from the light at night and by speeding up her synapses maybe she would improve. Again, hard to tell if this worked or not since we never drove with her at night again.<P>A couple of other meds we tried were antibiotics and doggie valium, both only while she was having seizures. The antibiotics were because we thought perhaps she was getting an infection that was triggering her episodes, didn't seem to make a difference so we stopped. The valium was to lessen the severity of her seizures and to prevent cramping. Mostly what it did was make her extremely sluggish, and when she was done having seizures at the end of four nights she was even more hyper and crazy than normal. We stopped this mostly because I couldn't stand to see her so slow.<P>Beyond that we didn't use regular flea shampoo because she always seemed to have an adverse reaction to it. We put both dogs on Advantage and washed them with regular shampoo. The Advantage I highly recommend, since we started using it we haven't seen a single flea.<P>Occasionaly, people would ask us why we didn't put her out of her misery. The short answer was because we couldn't. But, it was also because when she wasn't having seizures she was a picture of health and happiness. Her quality of life, outside of her epilepsy, was excellent, my W spoiled her rotten :-). We were told that she wasn't in any pain and that she would live a normal lifespan. She was six.<P>As much as we miss her, we have so many good memories that I wouldn't trade it for anything. I'm sure you will treasure the time you have left, you won't be disappointed.<P>Here is a little poem for the dog owners out there:<P>A Dog Owner's Prayer<P>O Lord don't let me once forget<BR>How I love my trusty pet-<BR>Help me learn to disregard<BR>Canine craters in my yard,<BR>Show me how to be a buddy<BR>Even when my sofa's muddy,<BR>Don't allow my pooch to munch<BR>Postal carriers for lunch,<BR>Shield my neighbor's cat from view,<BR>Guide my steps around the doo,<BR>Train me not to curse and scowl<BR>When it's puppy's night to howl,<BR>Grant I shan't awake in fear<BR>With a cold nose in my ear,<BR>Give me patience without end-<BR>Help me be "A Dog's Best Friend."<P>Steve

DYLAN,<BR> I found that "Dog's Prayer" (You can find ANYTHING on the net huh?) I hope you enjoy it and it helps (IF) LOve & Prayers Frank<P><BR>A DOG'S PRAYER <BR>By<BR>Beth Norman Harris <P><BR>Treat me kindly, my beloved master, for no heart in all the world is more grateful for kindness than the loving heart of me. <P>Do not break my spirit with a stick, for though I should lick your hand between the blows, your patience and understanding will more quickly teach me the things you would have me do. <P>Speak to me often, for your voice is the world's sweetest music, as you must know by the fierce wagging of my tail when your footstep falls upon my waiting ear. <P>When it is cold and wet, please take me inside...for I am now a domesticated animal, no longer used to bitter elements..and I ask no greater glory than the privilege of sittng at your feet beside the hearth...though had you no home, I would rather follow you through ice and snow than rest upon the softest pillow in the warmest home in all the land...for you are my god...and I am your devoted worshipper. <P>Keep my pan filled with fresh water, for although I should not reproach you were it dry, I cannot tell you when I suffer thirst. Feed me clean food, that I may stay well, to romp and play and do your bidding, to walk by your side, and stand ready, willing and able to protect you with my life, should your life be in danger. <P>And, beloved master, should the Great Master see fit to deprive me of my health or sight, do not turn me away from you. Rather hold me gently in your arms as skilled hands grant me the merciful boon of eternal rest...and I will leave you knowing with the last breath I drew, my fate was ever safest in your hands. <P> Yeah, this always gets me!!

((((((((((wassi)))))))))<P>I don't hink I know HOW to take care of myself....too busy always taking care of everybody and everything else...LOL....maybe Lori gives seminars in that too?....but I will try....<P>yes, there are subtle signs...she gets 'wierd'..there is no other way to describe it..and no, it was not your imagination...it helps our pet companions when we are right there, holding them....when Char has a seizure and I am with her, I get down on the floor with her and stroke and hold her, talking all the while...she can hear me, according to the vet....and her seizures last half the time...only a minute or two....versus the 3-4 minutes and extreme aggitatedness of them when i did not do that....she was on 60 mg of pheno every 12 hours...since the 'incident'...she is on double that...120 mg every 12 hrs...and surprisingly, she should be a vegetable, but is as hyper as ever.....it is as if the pheno does nothing....even after a massive dose of valium, she is 'normal'....maybe she takes after me....valium does not work on me either......haven't you ever noticed???...LOL<P>((((((Julie))))))<BR>the ties that bind....I could see where your sis would just throw up her hands, and get the heck out.....when I thought the dog had died....I was almost gone...just from the sense of loss alone...that I could not 'take one more thing'....<BR>by the way, when OW had her couch in my livingroom, I told Deut to get it the he!! out of my house and we delivered it to her driveway....I would get movers in and get the goshdarned piano out....and place it in her own front yared .....darn the consequences...I know, I know, it would be a huge LB probably....but, hey!....or I would play the thing until it is so out of tune that it is useless except as firewood.... <P>Beerman2.....thank you again...that was wonderful....I am trying to cut out all 'crap' from her diet....msg supposedly can be a factor as well.....the vet thinks it is highly unlikely that it is epilepsy....as her seizures only started this april...and she is barely a year old.....again, my sympathies on the loss of Sasha......I don't think we will be as lucky to have Char with us for 6 years...I wish it WAS epilepsy....I realize except for the seizures, she would live a full, normal, happy life....but this is not the case.....she is rapidly becoming um....not to sound harsh, or unfeeling, but frankly, a moron....she has forgotten that she is housetrained, she walks into things, she falls down the stairs, she no longer responds to simple commands such as sit, um, it breaks my heart....the rapidness of her deterioration....<P>((((((((((Frank)))))))))<BR> I left you a thank you on the other thread.... .....again, thank you for spending the time to respond to me, and look up that Dog's Prayer....especially in the midst of your own pain....<P><BR>Dylan<P>------------------<BR>"The journey into darkness has been long and cruel, and you have gone deep into it."<BR>~ A Course in Miracles

Dylan <BR>I have to tell you to take care of yourself. I'm really good at telling people that. I don't know how to do for me either. But maybe if we tell you enough you'll learn for both of us. <P>Kelly was a 65 lb Springer and her max was 150 mg. daily if I remember correctly. On that dose she went a whole month at the end without a seizure. Ahhhhh that was heaven!<P>Now I want to tell you a miracle story.<BR>My Golden that I have now...was diagnosed with a very agressive cancer in her mouth. She was given "weeks" to live.....<BR>That was Sept. '97. <P>The only treatment she has had? Shark's cartilage. That was my idea.<P>Just thought you'd like to hear a smiley story. Miracles do happen. Just sometimes we only see the crap. I know one day soon I will have to put her to sleep. But I have had almost three years with her that I wasn't supposed to. <P>Thinking of you!!!!<P>Wassi.

Hi, sorry about your dog. It hurts. <P>Our friends' dog got old and they asked me to take him to be put to sleep. I wanted to hold him because he was my special friend (yes, I am a bit simple; I make friends with other people's dogs). He trusted me and I wanted the last face he saw to be one who never forgot to go to the yard and pet him, even if there was a new baby in the house or if he was dirty and smelly. (The baby was much loved and I loved her too, but she made ven less time for a critter who was already being ignored.)<P>Sorry. I kept his dog tags, They are still in my jewelry box. He was a German Shepherd.