I just wanted to add my thanks to this thread, as well...<P>The <B>ONLY</B> thing I disagree with is the 'demand' I have made that David get some counseling. Please don't put his mental health on my shoulders. He needs help from a professional. I don't write everything he does on this forum, and believe me, he could hurt himself while depressed - <B>this is clinical depression</B>...<P>He won't see this post because, as he's said, he doesn't have access to a PC for 5 days... I won't tell his secrets here either, but I do mean this: <B>counseling is a must</B> if we are to succeed. <P>I will bow to the suggestions to love without question, have no lovebusters (try anyway ), do unto him as I would have done unto me (great sex ???), and try to stop defending myself on this board - <B>except</B> for this <B>one</B> issue... he MUST GET SOME HELP!<P><P>------------------<BR>~Sheryl<BR>Broken heart, broken promises, broken spirit... let me rest!

Dear Sheryl,<P>Nope. Can't DEMAND. Must encourage. Encourage and nudge with love. <P>I think you are correct in being concerned for David. He does sound very depressed, and it can be helped so easily with medication, etc.... <P>But don't demand, because that could keep him from getting the help he needs. It seems there is this "flight" reaction going on to your behavior. You want him to get help so don't chase him away with demands, but lure him in with love and encouragement.<P>We need to soften you up. Let me be the blunt one and you be the nice guy, okay?<P>love ya<BR>tnt

Okay <B>Connie</B>, I'll play good cop/bad cop...or is it good wife/bad friend?? <P>I'll give this a shot...<P>Pray for me...<P>------------------<BR>~Sheryl<P>Nobody knows what you want except you, and nobody will be as sorry as you if you don't get it. ~Barry Manilow

David,<P>I AM praying for you daily...by nmae, and Sheryl too.<P>Everyone here cares about the two fo yo so much.<P>OK, you are moved and you and Sheryl NEED this break right now, so use this time wisely friend. The score is 100 to 0 that you could benefit from counselling. Your FRIENDS here are telling you something that could BENEFIT YOU!!!! <P>David, you know that when you pray, God ALWAYS gives us the resources we need to overcome adversity. So, I think that god brought you here to post and have a zillion people tellyou the same thing...please listen and searchyour own heart...God is telling you something and trying to influence your life for the better right now!!!!<P>Wishing you the best...<P>Roll Me Away<P><P>------------------<BR>"Life is made up, not of great sacrifices or duties, but of little things in which smiles and kindnesses and small obligations, given habitually, are what win and preserve the heart and secure comfort."<P>Sir Humphry Davy<BR>