You guys are so funny!<P>I live in Lakewood, a lovely suburb of Denver. I have lived in Denver for 16 years, and I LOVE it here.<P>Jayhawk, what kind of job are you looking for? The Denver area is short of good, qualified people right now, so it's a job hunters dream. Name your price and name your job. Regarding your friends moving from Boulder to Westminster, yeah!! Boulder is a little to Birkenstock for my tastes. BTW, I am semi-native and I DO NOT ski. And I also do not think that missing sex is a Jewish thing. Not giving sex...not that is a J.A.P. thing (haha), but thankfully that is not my particular curse. My burden to bear is that I am usually the one who likes more of it more often. That's a wierd role reversal, huh?<P>Nick, your friends are guys, huh? How in the world are you supposed to just "get out there and get some relief"? I am chuckling at my desk. I wish it was that easy, sometimes. I have to concur with what you wrote about sex being more about the closeness and the total giving of oneself to another person. I think that's why I would never be a "go out and get relief" kind of chick (yes, I call myself a chick). To me sex has never meant just physical pleasure (although it is!!), it's always been about closeness and acceptance and being desired/wanted and feeling intimate. Like I can be so openly and fully myself and I am loved because of me. Boom, next thing I know, I want to show my feelings in a physical way. Okay, I better stop.<P>Last but not least, Java. One of the big mysteries of all time: "Does size really matter?" I am not Madonna or anything, so I have only been with a couple of men, but the men that I have been with have all varied in size and shape--some curve, some don't. But to be gruesomely honest, it has never mattered to me one bit. Each size and shape has its advantages and physical benefits, but each one is attached to someone I care about, I frankly didn't consider it. IMO, I have never "craved" a footlong or anything, like almost every man thinks women do, and when I did have a well-endowed man, actually it was kinda painful. I am speaking only for myself when I say, "Size really does not matter", and I personally prefer a circumference to an overall length.<P>Well, was that answer enough for you all?<P>I need a cold drink of water. Bye!!<P> CJ

It's a good thing there's no moderator here.<P>CJ, I used to live between Loveland and Estes Park. How can you not ski? I miss Colorado so bad.<P>Jayhawk, I like the learning part. I've always wondered about the smorgasboard <P>There I've gotten it out of my system <P>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain and makes the sun come out again<p>[This message has been edited by c00ker (edited October 20, 2000).]

CJ-<BR>I couldn't agree with you more!!!<P>As for the size thing... personal preference, bigger than a toothpick smaller than... I don't know. Haven't figured that part out yet.<P>As for the closeness... definatly! That is the one great thing that I miss. Giving myself over compleatly to the person that I care about. The feeling of being one with each other. Pleasing them and with them being fufilled it helped to please me as well. That's what it is all about though isn't it? I mean sure the rest of it is fun and the physical feeling is great and all, but isn't it more mental than physical most of the time? I think so.<P>JH93- as for your possible new found profession.... CJ did mention that Colorado is hard up for GOOD HARD WORKING people. You never know. But if you do decide to go that way, you will have to keep us all posted on your profit margin on it. <P>-Java<P>

Hi ya'll,<BR>As a woman who's taken a trip to the buffet line in my distant past (and who is now a vegetarian LOL), I can tell you two things...<P>I truly believe that different women have a different "range" of internal size, just as men have a "range" of external sizes. I think that many women can accomodate a fairly large range of circumference (those muscles do stretch--and contract), but I think that the main difference is the length that women can accomodate. As another poster said here, I frankly don't prefer what some men might consider the ideal "man" part. Too painful. I have only met one woman who has a stated preference for long ones. So...long story short (or vice-versa), I think it is all about finding a "good fit". I work around all men, and once or twice they've alluded to "the bottomless pit"--either they have a really short one, or indeed, the woman is quite "deep". Who knows? <P>Item number two: After going through a few different people I was not in love with (like I said, in my distant past), I can say this. They tend to look the same after awhile. Oh yea, a little bit different technique, a different body that might be interesting for a few weeks. However, sex without love gets very boring, very fast. These days, with all the risks due to STD's etc, it is just not worth it. At this point in my life, I'm very sure I would have nothing to do with a man who got divorced and decided to be a male slut for awhile. PASS!!!!!

I concur on the moderator comment. Whew!! Is it hot in here, or is it just me.<P>Nick, I live in Colorado and I don' ski because I don't like to ski. On the other hand, I LOVE the mountains, and the scenery and all that. I feel so much closer to God in the mountains. When I first moved to Colorado, when I got sad or lonely I would daytrip to Estes Park and hang out. That's when Estes Park was a mountain town and not a tourist trap. I personally like sitting by Lake Estes and being quiet. Now, I travel all over the state (literally) and LOVE Colorado. Have you ever been to Durango? That's another mountainy little town that I like a lot. BTW, Colorado misses you <P>Okay, the other folks are bored with our reminiscing. Java--ooooo. You are tricky, but I get it. Might as well work while he learns huh? BTW, is there a school for that? If so, I would be willing to help develop the curriculum. teehee. Does anyone here think they could be a teacher? Is there a financial aid plan, or is that what the GOOD HARD WORKING is for? <P> CJ<P>

You all are killing me here! I'm at work and will probably get fired because I keep checking this darn page.<P>TS, the 'male slut' comment is not a reality. I have never been, nor will I ever be a slut. Sex w/o love is not fun for long. I had (1) one night stand and didn't like it. Then I had (1) more about a year later just to remind myself what I didn't like about the first one Other than that, my sexual experiences have been during long term relationships of at least 2 years.<P>Cinderella, <B>5 years</B>??? My god you must have gone through some batteries!!! My heart is all a flutter for this evenings exploits. Please don't take it the wrong way for I am a shy guy and I don't put out on the first date. A good-night kiss is acceptable, but I'm still married so it wouldn't be tonight. I just wanted to get the ground rules set now so we don't have any problems later. <P>....And yes, you did impress me with your metaphore. BTW, are you posting a picture on Butterfly's page? Excuse me if you already have, but I haven't checked it recently.<P>CJ, I have the name of one headhunter in your next of the woods, but have not yet contacted her. Do you have an email that I can reach you at regarding a career move? You can get me at jhawk93@kc.rr.com I don't want to talk profession on a sex thread as I am not a professional! I have never accepted money for sex. Gifts maybe, but never money. <P>I also loved Estes Park and the RM National Forest. I have never been rained on, snowed on and sleeted on all at the same time. I got to experience this at the 12,500 sign in August!<P>cOOker, What do you think about tomorrow, 35-21 Hawks?<P>Java, Are you happy now. Look what this thread is turning into <P>It's going to be an eventful weekend all and I don't know how often I'll be in front of the PC. Will check in when I'm able. Don't take my silence for being chicken (Jane-Elise).<P>------------------<BR>JH93

Yes I am quite happy thank you!!!! <P>But if I recall correctly, you were the one complaining of the lack of sex topics in this area. I knew where to go to get it when I needed a smile.<P>Hope that you are satisfied with yourself!<P>This page today has brought a much needed smile to my face. Thanks all!!<P><BR>-Java

I agree with Java. I started off the day today in a bad spot (Nick, you know why) and all this goofiness has really lifted my spirits. Has anything changed? No not really. I just had a silly, funny day with my friends. Thanks you guys. <P> CJ

Hope we made you smile a bit CJ <BR>You've always got my shoulder to cry on when you need to and the rest of me to laugh at when you want to. <P>You've been in the Centennial state a long time if you can remember E' Park before it was a tourist trap!<P>Jayhawk,<P>12.5? hmmm sounds like somwhere around Longs Peak. I topped out there on a day in August once in 2 feet of new snow. I also ruined about $3k worth of orthodontics rappelling there too (my dad is still pissed about that). I'm calling my dad tonight (A serious Buffalo fan & alum), but I think we could be in the hurt locker. But, B-ball season is near. Roy will get us a national championship sooner or later. Beware the Phog!!<P>TS,<P>The hound dog will never be my style. I just got caught up in Jayhawks frivolity. He's a really bad example for me. I miss feeling warm & loved. That's what I want and I know that's a ways down the road for me.<P>Cinderella,<P>I have to know ....<P>your desk at the church office??? <P>Thank you all. This has been a fun day for me, thanks to all of you....<P>pleasant dreams...<P>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain and makes the sun come out again

Nick,<P>Ahhh. Yes, I remember it well.<P>The Valley Highway<P>The accident in the Mousetrap<P>The reason it's called "the mousetrap"<P>Bears' Stadium<P>The Denver Bears<P>Craig Morton, Karl Mecklenberg, and the Orange Crush.<P>All of these are memories from the year BEFORE we struck silver in Georgetown, I think. Yeah. Tabor was the govenor then. Haha. <P>Have a great weekend. You did give me a smile today, and I sure do appreciate it. To be honest, I'm afraid of the weekend, but I'll take a breath and have a rootbeer float in honor of all our craziness here today.<P>Okay. I'm vaklempt again, and that's where I started this day. I swear to God, I'll tell you all my troubles soon, but I just can't right now. Okay? Let's just say I second your emotion about missing being warm and loved. I'd give about anything to feel wanted. <P>TTFN (ta ta for now)<P> CJ<P>cindy_wolfe@blm.gov<BR>cindy@wolfesystems.com<BR>

OMG!<BR>I remeber before the intersection of I-70 & I-25 was there (we called it) the rat trap.<P>I remember the Denver Bears.<P>I survived the Big Thompson flood, but lost 3 very special friends.<P>2 scoops in the float. Go home and love & help your husband.<P>You are wanted. Give him time and care and comfort. He needs it. He'll show it.<P>Watch the Aspens turn (probably already have). Watch the sun fall over the front range.<P>skeeebums@home.com<P>Don't give up. Don't give in.<P>Don't ever forget that I'm thinking and praying for you.<P>Take care and be with peace...<P>{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{CJ}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}<P>I will be here whenever you need me...<P><BR>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain and makes the sun come out again<p>[This message has been edited by c00ker (edited October 21, 2000).]

CJ & c00ker-<P>Double OMG!<P>Do you remember... <P>East Tincup / Pete Symthe<BR>Celebrity Sports Center<BR>Holiday Lights @ Civic Center<BR>Stapleton Airport<BR>Big Mac Arena<BR>The Tech Center<BR>When I-225 Opened<BR>Lakeside Amusement Park @ I-70/Sheridan<P>The Police Traffic Observation Tower at<BR>the Mouse Trap at I-70 and I-25<P>Your posts made me think back and take a walk down memory lane.<P>mr rlk<P>

CJ,<P>Your mighty Buffaloes are now 1-6 after succumbing to the dominating Jayhawks defense on Saturday.<P>What is going with your boys? 1-6 from a Colorado program?????<P>cOOker,<P>The Hawks are now 2 victories away from a post-season bowl appearance!!!!!<P>Rock Chalk Jayhawk!<BR>

Been working all weekend. I need to call my dad & console him. Maybe another hula bowl?<P>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain and makes the sun come out again

You guys - this is Jayhawk's sex thread!! What's with you.<P>And, yeah, I went without it for 5 years. Never tried the battery things. And doing it for myself just doesn't do anything for me. Lot's of frustration. I have an equally frustrated friend. We get each othr through "those times" by talking about missing out.<P>Imagine how good it must have been when I fell off the wagon, so to speak. I'd waited a long time and it lived up to my expectations. Let's see, if x could go from "start your engines to the checkered flag" in 10 minutes , allowing for 15 minutes between "races", then this long awaited event would have taken 4 or 5 of x's "races". Was well worth waiting for! <P>You know they say "all good things come to those who wait". I waited. And waited. And had the privilege of deciding when and with whom. Did have some other chances though. But I got everything I bargained for. <P>And what's more, I did start this thread and I do almost all my posting from my desk in the church office. Maybe I need some spiritual counseling. After all, my favorite form of exercise is dancing. Should I request an emergency appointment? <p>[This message has been edited by cinderella (edited October 23, 2000).]

Cinderella:<P>Well then, after going through a 5 year dryspell, I guess I won't get any sympathy from you for just a few months now will I?<P>Since most of your postings are done from the church office, do I assume that you don't have a PC at home?<P>Thanks again for Friday. I enjoyed myself immensely <P>Was it good for you?<BR><P>------------------<BR>JH93

Cinderella,<BR>Don't you know... with a lot of guys, sex and sports are one in the same! The game is no fun until you score. (I am kidding before you over sensitive men jump my case... I know that you are not all like that.)<P>As for the battery things... yes, I do have more than my fair share of them. They don't come close to doing a good job, but they are better than nothing. And I admit it. This is the kind of thing that guys are fortunate for!!! They don't need much.<P>Going on to your "race day"... Good for you!!! I have noticed that there is a very big difference in playing the game with some one who is just intrested in scoring and someone who thinks that the game is more fun with all action that goes on in between points.<P>-Java

CHEW-CHEW-CHEW<P>That's crow I'm eating. As I mentioned to Jayhawk earlier, I think Colorado sent the girl's team to play against the Jayhawks! Man, it was embarrassing! But no more embarrassing than the Broncos v. Cinncinnati. I don't think the defense got off the airplane or something, because I sure didn't see any defense. Did you? Thank God for the Rams, because otherwise I would have had to move to Kansas (shudder). I knew the Rams/Utes was going to be a great game. <P>Anyway, I got a tickle out of reading the trip down Denver memory lane. Yeah, I've been here a little while. The Big Thompson flood was really something. Even now, as I drive through the canyon, I can't believe how it can be SO beautiful there, and yet there was so much...destruction. Personally, I loved the Denver Bears. Now, they are building a new stadium; they have stupid, boring major league baseball; and the soccer team plays where the Bears used to be! It's a tragedy. <P>Hey, mr rkl. How do you know Denver? Did you used to live here or what? I still live here! Yes, by the way, here's a tickle just for you. My H used to WORK at Celebrity Sports Center--which as you know they tore down. I personally loved the water slide that went outside. Thankfully, the Hooters next door is still standing, though, so I guess priorities, huh?! They still do the Holiday Lights at Civic Center, but every year they say the same thing, "We can't afford it...need donations...". Stapleton Airport is now a big old field. They are trying to turn it into a residential neighborhood, but it's going slow. They tore down Big Mac this year, and I have a piece of the rock. The last concert was ZZ Top, which I thought was real fitting, because they opened the joint. The Tech Center and <BR>Lakeside Amusement Park @ I-70/Sheridan are still there. In fact, this summer my kids "hung" at Lakeside with their friends (they can afford Lakeside, whereas Six Flags gets pretty pricey.<P>Okay, here's a sentimental one for all old Denver folks. Do you remember Elitch Gardens on 38th and Sheridan? Do you remember why it was called a garden? <P>I enjoyed this walk down memory lane. Regarding the sex topic, I have to say, "Sex? What is that? I've heard of it...vaguely remember...OH YEAH! Now I remember." I am a batteries kind of girl, and I use C batteries and AA batteries and one AAA batteries. Haha. It absolutely IS NOT the same, but it can sometimes "take the edge off" and settle some tension. Know what I mean? <P>Better run,<BR> <BR> CJ<P>

Java,<P>I tend to agree with you about guys being easy, but you know, NOTHING compares to the feeling of being caressed by another person. Self-fulfillment definitely has its limitations. <P>Even though it doesn’t take guys much to ‘get theirs’, it’s always been more satisfying for me personally when the women gets hers first. At least if feels like I’m doing something right. For most men, we are easy and the ‘race’ can be either a 50-yard dash or 26 mile marathon depending on the circumstances. The best though are those all night triathlons! And for any woman who feels the need to fake it just to make her partner feel better about themselves, that’s really a sad thing. If she’s having to fake it, then she’s just cheating herself. This brings me back to my other thread regarding the need to tell your partner what you like.<BR>

CJ<BR>I remember Elitch's, but was too young to remember about the gardens. I remember when Larimer square was not too nice a place.<P>I like the Triathlons Maybe I was "trysexual" <P>Honestly, it's really not the sex that I miss. I miss being with someone who truly cares how I feel and wants to make me feel good. And more than that, I miss the opportunity to show someone I really care about how much they mean to me. I haven't had any desire in a couple of months now. I guess I'm starved for affection. The dog & my son help, but nothing beats someone soft & warm to snuggle with. Feels like a cold winter coming on.<P>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain and makes the sun come out again