for me, spontaneity is very attractive, as it says "i love you whereever we are, for who you are right now," and its the randomness of the reward which makes it sooooo addictive.<P>But it also shows me that the woman's mind is also has the independence of being able to become one with me at the event or the location, such that it doesn't really matter if we are stumbled upon by hikers, or boaters, and that just adds flexibility that takes it out of the routine, and into the realm of you are unique and special to me.<P>and just as important as random initiation is the ability to be randomly seduced, to not get so hung up on time and location, on schedules and appearances. it is the quality of connection to understand that I also love you spontaneously, at different times and at different locations. And that my my desire to make love is my wanting to be one with you at that time and place.<P>ok, breathe slowly, time for ice water, where did this desk and paperwork come from?<BR>why is there a phone ringing, . . . .

Wow, that's a hard, err... I mean difficult question.<P>I suppose the kind of girl who makes me feel strong & masculine. The kind of girl who goes to the trouble of finding out what I really like & then VERY subtly, doing it. A girl whose not afraid to tell me what she does or doesn't like. Someone who is imaginative, sensitive, playful, aggressive, demure, romantic, kinky ooops, don't want to go there...<P>Or failing all else, a model from Maxim or guest star from Babewatch <P>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain and makes the sun come out again

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>What kind of woman makes the best lover?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Is it not enough to just say one who is willing? <P>Ok, seriously here, the women in my life that have been the best lovers were the ones that developed out of a friendship. Hot lusty sex is great, but it does not compare to making love and I firmly beleive that you are not able to really make love until you are ready to commit yourself (mind, body and soul) to the other person.<P>The best female lover is also capable of telling her partner what she wants and what her body needs, regardless of what that may be. This leads us back to the issue of communication. If you can't talk about sex with your partner, then how good can it really be?

Well said, men. I am very impressed.<P>WIFTT, <BR>You are killing me. Ask any guy on this forum...okay that sounds so wrong, but many of my friends know I have a TERRIBLE weakness this way. Take it easy on the girl, will ya?<BR>BTW, where did I put my fan?<P>c00ker,<BR>Kinky can be fun--it's perverted that's wierd. They don't make ALL the silk scarves to tie around your neck ya know!<P>Jayhawk, <BR>As always, your reply is so sweet, but I agree completely. The best lover is the one to whom you make love, not have sex, and you make love when you give yourself to someone body and soul.<P>(Big long sigh)<P>Well at least three guys to one girl make for a kind of interesting ratio! <P>Here's my answer. The men that make the best lovers are slow, soft, gentle and passionate. You know by the look in his eye that it's a strong desire, and you know by his heart and by knowing him that it's love. The best lovers are inventive, playful, and willing to try anything that's new, yet not "uncomfortable." And the best lovers say out loud what they absolutely LOVE and what they absolutely LOVE to do. <P>(Really big long sigh)<P>Does anyone else care to comment?<P>CJ<BR><P>------------------<BR>Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.

Okay... haven't posted on this one for awhile...<P>The best kind of lover??? One who takes his time. One who in the breifest moment of a touch, a kiss, a glance, or a caress - shares an eternity of caring, devotion, love, and tenderness. One who is not afraid of showing emotion when with me. One who is strong and compassionate. One who touches that emotional side, and reaches to the innermost depths of me (I am not talking physically... you guys get your minds out of the gutter) and just strikes the chord just right.... As for a physical state.... One who actually wants to know what would please me. One who tells me exactly what makes his clock tick. Where the special "buttons" are on his body. Who isn't afraid to try something new or different, who isn't afraid to explore all of the wonderful little things with sex.<P>-Java

WOW.... I'm gone for a few days, and the guys take over and make this into a sports thread... but we came back and got things headed in the right direction again! <P>The kind of man who makes the best lover.... hummmmmm....<P>Breating! <P>Ok, really, a man who is kind, gentle, passionate and fun... who likes to talk, but who is also interested in other activities (watching sports doesn't qualify here ).<P>A man who can be a gentle giving lover, or a passionate take charge lover.... and who knows which one is the right one at the time.<P>In my personal experience, the best lover I've had was someone who was my friend (and still is) for many years before becoming my lover..... He knows the real me, and what I want from life, what I have been through.... someone I am comfortable with in all ways. Someone I trust with every part of me. And vice-versa.<P>If that fails.... a fireman will do.... they rescue kittens from trees, but can still do the caveman thing and throw me over their shoulder .<P>B

Yes, Butterfly.<P>You can always depend on CJ to turn the topic back to sex!<P>CJ<P>------------------<BR>Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.

Sex? What's that?

Cinderella,<P>You can fool some of us some of the time, but you can't fool all of us all of the time. We know better. Now fess up and tell us what kind of man makes the best lover.<P>You started this thread, therefore you are required, by the King's law, to answer all of the questions asked within.<P>Now tell, unless you're chicken?? <p>[This message has been edited by Jayhawk 93 (edited November 14, 2000).]

Sex???<P>Hmmm, kind of rings a bell.....<P>It's right on the tip of my tongue, but I can't quite put my finger on it... <P>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain and makes the sun come out again

cOOker - you naughty boy!<P>Handsome Prince - let's see:<P>Well, who was it that sang: I want a lover with slow hands.....an easy touch...I want somebody who will spend some time, not come and go in a heated rush? <P>There has to be an intellectual connection, a kind of chemistry that's not just lust. He has to be a gentle soul. Know a bit about romance. Would be nice if he appreciated music and candles. <P>BTW, someone somewhere did a study that showed that women, at ovulation time, preferred more rugged or macho, shall we say, men and at other times when they preferred more intellectual types. <P>Me, I've never been into studly guys. I like guys with nice looks and good brains. I'm no geek, myself. Just need a sense of humor and some intelligence. <P>I heard Tom Snyder, who used to host The Late, Late Show on NBC, say that he could tell how good in bed a woman would be by the way she ate her food. If she picked at it or wolfed it down, that's how she would be in bed. If she enjoyed the texture, the color, the flavor, etc., then she'd be great. (X used to wonder how I could spend minutes, literally, eating a single piece of chocolate. Yup, he was a wolfer with his chocolate. And his sex.) [Sigh]

Tongues<P>Fingers<P>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!<P><BR>(That was my mind taking a flying leap)<P>CJ<P>------------------<BR>Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.

I've never heard the food teste before, but, I'll let you know where i stand via the food taste:<P>When we used to go to my BIL's for thanksgiving, and STBX's whole family was there, they, and I mean all of them, STBX included, used to be all done in 10-15 minutes, I mean finished the turkey, the vegetables, the gravy, the entire second course, (assuming a little bit of appetizers) and I used to ask for seconds, of everything, and everyone would have to sit at the table, chatting nicely, with empty plates, while WIFTTy slowly ate his seconds on the second course, and chatted right along with them, and it used to drive my STBX NUTS! and I would enjoy every minute of the dinner!<P>alright, so I'm a thanksgiving sadist!<BR>it was kind of funny though to watch everyone else squirm. I didn't realize it meant I was great in the sack! <P>WIFTTy<p>[This message has been edited by WhenIfindthetime (edited November 14, 2000).]

I have to tell you this funny story. I have a sister who is nine years younger than I am. When she eats, the food never touches the plate. I always tease her that she "snarfs" her food, because by the time I'm done smelling the dinner, she's done eating. It is literally hilarious to watch. <P>My record at dinner is 3 hours at a great restaurant called Melting Pot. The food there is so well prepared, it is almost a sexual experience. And so, eventually, the topic returns to sex!<P>CJ<P>------------------<BR>Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.

Ok, so now we're back to food and sex... I wish Murphy would drop by, I'd like to hear his theories about ice cream and sex. <P>LOL... thinking along those lines, and back to the good ole High School daze... I'm thinking about how all my girlfriends used to eat carrots/ice cream/anything remotely phallic in shape while watching their favrite guy to try to get a <I>reaction</I> out of him. <P>Hey guys, does that still work???<P>Smooches<BR> Busty<p>[This message has been edited by Butterfly (edited November 14, 2000).]

It still works for me, especially with Popsicles

Ok,Busty,....I'll bite(on some ice cream,that is).<P> You can have a lot of fun with ice cream,and sex.As long as it's not TOO cold! <P> But,......my ex had a way of sucking on a popsicle that could bring grown men to their knees!<P><BR> ~~Murph

On behalf of gsd, I will post the following for your consideration:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Darn. I just discovered that my network at work will not allow me to post on something called "Jayhawk's sex Thread." I'm not surprised. I actually had a thought. <P>By proxy?: "Men want a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom." <P>Period.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>

In response to gsd's statement I would like to say that she makes a valid point to some degree. I think men like having a woman who is control of her body and her desires when it comes to the bedroom, but they may not necessarily want the whole world to know it. <P>I'm not sure about calling a woman who is control of what she wants in bed a 'whore' but being with a woman who has a 'bad' side about her has always been a turn-on for me

Go to love a wickidly naughty girl under the sheets <P>I never paid much attention to eating habits...hmmm...I'll jot that in my notebook hehehe<P>Hey CJ, we have a Melting Pot here in Charlotte. I love it...A fondue(sp?)<BR>place, right?<P>Bill