Butterfly,<P>did you ever consider he might NOT have let you leave? Could he be a sociopath?<P>I would be very careful. Did you bring that gun you were going to buy?<P>I think it was a 10 foot diagonal RED FLAG!<P>tom

Tom.... <BR>Yes, I did consider it. But, he is a friend of a friend of mine, and someone always knew where I was. I trust the person who introduced us, and I don't think he would have if he didn't trust this guy. I think he just got over anxious. <P>He's been divorced for 6 years, and hasn't had a relationship in 3. I think we can all identify with the hormone overload .<P>I've got my eyes wide open now... We had always kept it to meeting in a public place and going from there, and I will insist on it again. No more watching movies at his place.... at least for a long time.<P>Oh, yes, I did have & will continue to have the gun with me. I didn't have to buy one though... when my uncle passed away last month, all the "family" guns & possessions went to my dad. In there is a little pistol that was my Grandfather's, and dad gave it to me. Since I travel around so much alone, I have gotten in the habbit of taking it with me in the car. <P>Lori,<BR> No finess points for that move... actually deducted quite a few from the stockpile he was building. He had actually really impressed me in every other way.... I'm a sucker for romantic gestures, and he is very good at them.... flowers, candy, cards, etc. <P>Like I said.... we all make mistakes, so I'm giving him another chance, but I'll be watching with my eyes wide open, and I think I got my point across about my expectations.<P>Not even the most romantic gestures will cause me to let my guard down about my safety. Besides, he's a skinny guy, and I could take him . <P>Smooches,<BR>B

Butterfly,<P>Did I miss something here? Keeping the gun in your home is one thing, carrying it around with you on dates is quite another.<P>Number one, unless you have a permit, it is against the law to carry the gun concealed.<P>Number two, How does one get romantic with a guy when you don't know whether or not you are going to have to shoot him? Doesn't this detract from the ambiance of the moment?<P>Number three, What happens if you don't have the heart to shoot somebody? Any chance he will take that gun away and shoot you with it? Almost a third of all police officers killed in the line of duty are shot with their own guns!. <P>I cannot in good conscience recommend that anyone carry a gun on any social occasion, and particularly not on any occaison where alcoholic beverages are present.<P>I must be old fashioned or something, but I can't immagine taking a woman out and so much as showing her a high school picture of another woman, let alone a sexually suggestive picture. <P>"You are going to have to kiss an awful lot of toads before one of them turns into a prince!"....Ozymandias Foofnic's fourth law.<P>Bumper<P>

Bumper....<P>Oh my .... I don't carry it "on the date"! I keep it in my car since I am on the road alone, and staying in a hotel alone. I don't take it with me when I'm driving to/from work, but just when I'm traveling. And right now, it is a very real concern, since some of the "Texas Seven" have been reported to be in this area. The reason I got a gun now in the first place was because I live off the highway in a sparsly populated area, and one night there were men walking around outside my home at 3 am.... and it took the local police several hours to find me!! <P>I do know how to use it, and I will use it to protect myself. I was raised to know how to shoot, and how to handle a gun safely. I am qualified to carry it, even though in this state, if it is in your vehicle it is the same as having it in your home. If you get stopped, all you have to do is tell the officer that you have it, and where it is. I don't carry it on my person except to/from the car.<P>As for thinking I might have to shoot him.... LOL I don't even consider that. Like I said, it's there for my safety mostly when I'm on the road. <P>And as for the toads.... well, I've kissed my fair share of them already! LOL<P>Thanks for your concern!<BR>B

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bumperii:<BR><B>How does one get romantic with a guy when you don't know whether or not you are going to have to shoot him? Doesn't this detract from the ambiance of the moment?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Why does this seem to only make it better for James Bond? I'm not sure he can perform with a woman who isn't deadly. If that isn't the case, then given his bed-hopping habits, why hasn't he nailed Miss Moneypenny?<P>

Porn on the 3rd date? No way. I always wait til the 5th or 6th (unless I meet her at an S&M convention )<P>I think I found a behavior worthy of being described as "Churlish" <P>Seriously, that ones kind of a leap for me. I'd be nervous about renting a Bond flick, much less an x-rated video without some discussion beforehand. Of course I'm just chicken.<P>I'm sorry but it looks like you may have gigged a frog. How about some frog legs? On the other hand, it's good to hear that not all the single guys out there are warm romantic caring men. Improves the odds for those of us who are.<P>Take care, and remember, gun control is hitting what you aim at <P>------------------<BR>nick<P>it's only time that heals the pain <BR>and makes the sun come out again

Butterfly,<P>First let me say that I have a very good "jerk radar". Ever since high school I have always had a bunch of girls I was friends with. Time and time again they would introduce me to their "guy of the month" to get my opinion. And without patting myself on the back, I am totally honest in saying that I have only been wrong about a guy once, twice maximum. This case though, is a little different since I can only infer this guy from your words.<P>With that said - I hate to say this, but he sounds like a jerk. Porn on a date? Outrageous unless we were dating for at least a couple months. Now keep in mind, I am a nice guy so that is what I base my judgements on. I will tell you one thing, I can't ever see a "nice" guy making that kind of mistake (most nice guys are too shy to know where the porn is kept at the rental place ). Really. I can see a potential jerk trying to rush ahead of himself and making that kind of mistake, but not a gentleman.<P>So in essence, yes it was a mistake, but not the kind of mistake a "nice guy" makes. So you may give this guy another chance, but I fear you may only be giving a jerk another chance to hurt you. Now if it is a "bad guy" type you are looking for (and many woman are attracted to those types), then this guy may be fine.<P>I hate to sound so blunt. I am usually all for giving second chances and such, but I really do hate guys who are jerks. Not only do they end up hurting good people, they help give all guys a bad name....<P>Mike

Butterfly - you're kinder than me. I'd have knocked him into the middle of last week - not next week as that might give him a chance to see me in the future - left, and never have spoken to him again.<P>This guy's trouble.<P>

I have to agree with the others that I get really bad vibes about this guy.<P>I know when you are in a relationship and everything else seems to be going so well, it's sometimes hard to see clearly what everyone else is seeing. Been there, done that. <P>Just be careful.<P>Jen

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WhenIfindthetime:<BR><B>I think it was a 10 foot diagonal RED FLAG!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Correct me if I'm wrong here, but in scuba language, I believe a diagonal RED FLAG is the symbol for "Diver Down" <P>Sounds to me this flag was perfect for what this guy had in mind <P>

<B> ROTHLMAO !!!!! </B><P>That was a good one jayhawk!

OMG!!! I cannot believe I missed this thread!!<P>Dude has some big brass one's to even think he could get away with a move like that.<P>I may desent from the group in the giving of a second chance...I have to defer to your judgement BF...But Like you said...Keep them eyes wide open!!<P>I have to tell ya, I'm all for packing heat...Then again..I'm a card carrying NRA type that usualy has my trusty hog leg .45 not far away...and I also have this red-neck streak in me Just be safe...You sound as if you are...My grandpap tought me that never pull it unless you intend to use it in self-defence and if you use it shoot to kill...If you can handle that then your ok...They also teach that very philosophy in the conceled carry classes here...<P>Yes Jayhawk I do believe you're correct about the diver down flag! LMAO!!<P>And Sisyphus, I think double nought seven tagged Moneypenny LOL LOL<P>Bill<BR>

First, before I say anything else.... Jayhawk, thank you for making me bust a gut! I really needed that tonight!!!! <P>Well... in this game, strik 2 puts you out... at least when strike 1 was so major.<P>This guy turned out to be a Major TOAD! Throwing him back into the cess pool where he belongs!<P> It's Friday night, and I'm home. Or more appropriatly... Back Home. We were suposed to go to the bull riding tonight... he said he had the tickets. Well, I got there... no tickets. Didn't bother to tell me ahead of time that they wern't there... could have saved me a 2 hour drive in the snow going there, and a 3 1/2 hour drive coming back. I didn't even stick around for dinner.<P>Bill, <BR>You?? A redneck??? Nah... I don't believe it. <P>Oh, and if we decide to watch movies in Nashville.... can I pick them PLEASE! <P>Have a great weekend everyone <BR>Flutterby

Let's see, as the Princess of this affair, I get to have some say, too, in the movies. <P>"Nascar Versus the Zombie Killers" is out. As is "Lenny". "The King and I" has too many spouses and concubines. If it's too titilating, we should probably skip it. Maybe we should just watch Disney movies and try to find all the innuendos? Like in "The Little Mermaid" when Ariel is walking down the aisle to marry Eric. You out to see what happens to the officiant!! !! <BR>

Princess,<P>Now you have my curosity piqued... I'm going to have to watch my whole Disney collection and watch for stuff like that! LOL I wonder what I might find in Snow White???<P>Have a good night all... I'm off to the Disney Marathon!<P>B